President Donald J. Trump

[pyewacket]

I wish people would knock off making Hitler comparisons, too, and so does this guy. Cheers, Sweetie!

Poor kitty!

Yes, it shows little to no knowledge of history. I think that particular comparison is starting to lose steam so now Bannon is a Communist. Look for a flurry of posts about this.

The left’s condemnation of Steve Bannon, although fervent, relies on weak forensics: guilt by association, hearsay and quotes out of context. Given the level of scrutiny that accompanies presidential appointments, the most shocking revelation is that Bannon’s critics can’t make a stronger case against him.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/17/the-lefts-convenient-caricature-of-steve-bannon/

What do you know- even snopes lists this as unproven.

We searched for other instances in which Bannon referred to himself as a Leninist and came up empty-handed. However, we did find multiple instances of Bannon's espousing anti-establishment ideals (although there was no other instance of him saying that he wanted to "destroy the state").

http://www.snopes.com/bannon-leninist-destroy-state/

[Dr. MD MD]

Well no; I never expected you would. But grown ups who look further than the latest tweet from Drump do.

Grown ups?! The one's having collective temper tantrum? Those "grown ups?" 

[albrecht]

Make them anti German too.

http://www.gq.com/story/germanwings-flight-9525-final-moments

Isn't liability limited by treaty even in the US? I thought Warsaw/Montreal limited it to a certain level? But maybe gross negligence or the other aspects of this case (guy on meds, seeing a psychiatrist, etc and still allowed to fly?) In any event a horrible event. Their should be more testing or oversight for people in certain positions, then again, considering social stigma and then potential loss of career those requirements could be self-defeating (would a pilot, train engineer, etc seek help for a problem that might, at that time, be small or just beginning if it could end their career?)

[Yorkshire pud]

Poor kitty!

Yes, it shows little to no knowledge of history. I think that particular comparison is starting to lose steam so now Bannon is a Communist. Look for a flurry of posts about this.

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/17/the-lefts-convenient-caricature-of-steve-bannon/

What do you know- even snopes lists this as unproven.

http://www.snopes.com/bannon-leninist-destroy-state/

Anti-establishment is a Lenin mantra. As is anarchy. But then, whatever comes out of the WH as 'official' should be taken with a big bucket of salt. In two weeks they've lied, tried to rewrite history, lied some more, and justify lies as 'alternative facts'.

Its telling that its common knowledge Trump gets 'advice' about policy through watching TV. I wonder how much he's charging to use his shindig down at his hotel in Florida, getting there by AF1. He was against using that for personal use when he was just a TV name.

[Yorkshire pud]

Grown ups?! The one's having collective temper tantrum? Those "grown ups?" 

You've read Trump's latest tweet too? 

[Yorkshire pud]

Isn't liability limited by treaty even in the US? I thought Warsaw/Montreal limited it to a certain level? But maybe gross negligence or the other aspects of this case (guy on meds, seeing a psychiatrist, etc and still allowed to fly?) In any event a horrible event. Their should be more testing or oversight for people in certain positions, then again, considering social stigma and then potential loss of career those requirements could be self-defeating (would a pilot, train engineer, etc seek help for a problem that might, at that time, be small or just beginning if it could end their career?)

Mental illness isn't a problem with using potentially dangerous stuff. The house has just overturned a rule that prevents mentally ill people legally having firearms. Nothing to worry about.

[Dr. MD MD]

You've read Trump's latest tweet too? 

I guess you don't understand what the word "collective" means.  :

Just get your nurse to explain it to you. 

[Yorkshire pud]

I guess you don't understand what the word "collective" means.  :

Just get your nurse to explain it to you. 

You're right; I should have cc'd in Bannon, Drump's son in law and Spicer.

[albrecht]

Mental illness isn't a problem with using potentially dangerous stuff. The house has just overturned a rule that prevents mentally ill people legally having firearms. Nothing to worry about.

The problem is there is many forms of mental illness and even the professionals can disagree on them. It is, usually, not like cancer or heart disease where something can be scientifically/medically proven (one could, say, with a lesion or tumor causing some problem or certain brain diseases or inflammation.) And, depending on the situation, one can recover (but who, again, to tell) or with meds or counseling (again, how to tell?) What was that House bill? Citation? Most states still have those rules but Courts are increasingly finding against them. Some event that might have happened many decades ago still not allowing? Would you, or other anti-gun types, say other rights shouldn't apply? Like ability to speak, for example? Or publish something? Say some kid in his teens goes to counseling because his parents got divorced or a parent died or whatever, decades later he should still be barred from gun ownership or assembling with people? Technically here you can't get a driver's license for mental issues within the past two years (I think rarely enforced) but since the Courts have determined that driving is not a right but a privilege that test is legal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-20/mental-illness-history-ruled-on-appeal-to-not-bar-gun-ownership

[albrecht]

I guess Boeing is not that upset with regard to the Iran thing?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-companies-tax-idUSKBN15H2VV
"U.S. companies including major exporters General Electric Co (GE.N) and Boeing Co (BA.N) launched a coalition on Thursday to back a House Republican plan to tax all imports, saying the proposal would "support American jobs and American-made products."

The group, comprised of more than 25 U.S. companies and dubbed the "American Made Coalition," also includes Dow Chemical Co (DOW.N), Eli Lilly and Co (LLY.N), Pfizer Inc (PFE.N), and Oracle Corp, the companies confirmed."

[Yorkshire pud]

The problem is there is many forms of mental illness and even the professionals can disagree on them. It is, usually, not like cancer or heart disease where something can be scientifically/medically proven (one could, say, with a lesion or tumor causing some problem or certain brain diseases or inflammation.) And, depending on the situation, one can recover (but who, again, to tell) or with meds or counseling (again, how to tell?) What was that House bill? Citation? Most states still have those rules but Courts are increasingly finding against them. Some event that might have happened many decades ago still not allowing? Would you, or other anti-gun types, say other rights shouldn't apply? Like ability to speak, for example? Or publish something? Say some kid in his teens goes to counseling because his parents got divorced or a parent died or whatever, decades later he should still be barred from gun ownership or assembling with people? Technically here you can't get a driver's license for mental issues within the past two years (I think rarely enforced) but since the Courts have determined that driving is not a right but a privilege that test is legal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-20/mental-illness-history-ruled-on-appeal-to-not-bar-gun-ownership

Mental illness as in needing supervision.

According to NPR's Susan Davis, the measure being blocked from implementation would have required the Social Security Administration to send records of some beneficiaries with severe mental disabilities to the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System. About 75,000 people found mentally incapable of managing their financial affairs would have been affected.

The National Rifle Association had pushed for the repeal*, and Republicans argued it infringed upon Second Amendment rights by denying due process.

Supporters of the rule argued it was designed to stop mentally ill persons from getting firearms.

"The House charged ahead with an extreme, hastily written, one-sided measure that would make the American people less safe," Rep. Elizabeth Esty, D-Conn., said, according to The Hill. Esty represents Newtown, Conn., where a mentally ill man shot and killed 20 6- and 7-year-olds and six adults.**

* Really?
** 26 people isn't too high a price to pay obviously.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985/house-votes-to-overturn-obama-rule-restricting-gun-sales-to-mentally-ill

[Dr. MD MD]

Mental illness as in needing supervision.
* Really?
** 26 people isn't too high a price to pay obviously.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985/house-votes-to-overturn-obama-rule-restricting-gun-sales-to-mentally-ill

26 people is nothing but a drop in the bucket when you have leaders like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

[albrecht]

Mental illness as in needing supervision.
* Really?
** 26 people isn't too high a price to pay obviously.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985/house-votes-to-overturn-obama-rule-restricting-gun-sales-to-mentally-ill

Leftist ACLU siding with the Republicans on this issue. I agree that the definitions of disabled went too far and good it was repealed. Most all States, where the law should be anyway, have rules about those adjudicated to be confined for mental illness, drug or alcohol addicted, history of domestic violence, or convinced of various crimes, or found insane are not able to purchase or possess firearms. Though, like with your average criminal, simply making it illegal hardly means it will keep guns, cars, or whatever deadly thing out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them.

[Yorkshire pud]

I guess Boeing is not that upset with regard to the Iran thing?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-companies-tax-idUSKBN15H2VV
"U.S. companies including major exporters General Electric Co (GE.N) and Boeing Co (BA.N) launched a coalition on Thursday to back a House Republican plan to tax all imports, saying the proposal would "support American jobs and American-made products."

The group, comprised of more than 25 U.S. companies and dubbed the "American Made Coalition," also includes Dow Chemical Co (DOW.N), Eli Lilly and Co (LLY.N), Pfizer Inc (PFE.N), and Oracle Corp, the companies confirmed."

Why do you think they said that in public? Might it be because they're aware that the WH could throw a tantrum? Everyone knows (apart from seemingly Trump) that  "support American jobs and American-made products." is just window dressing and has no basis in reality. Trump has no idea how aeroplanes are conceived, designed or built. I may even think they come out of the hanger gold plated for all I know. Therefore if Boeing has an order worth $8bn and the production thereof scheduled into their financial planning and staffing over the next five or so years, Iran (the customer) cancelling said order will have major consequences; but then, maybe Trump will take up the slack and buy them instead?

[Yorkshire pud]

26 people is nothing but a drop in the bucket when you have leaders like this:

Hey I was against the Iraq/Afghanistan wars; your point?

[Meister_000]

At the same time also classically (and in reality sometimes,) often, a symbol of duplicity, disruption, stealth, deception, or due to no fault of her own but simply due to beauty and jealousy of men: a source/cause for many a fight or war, loss of kingdom, change of focus, original sin, strife among gods, loss of power, and so on. 

True enough, but we don't typically revere or deify the vices or dark truths, only the virtues -- unless You're a Sufi Muslim that is! (see "99 names of God", negative attributes in that list). But I must say, most of _the_ most-evil humans I've encountered have been female. Has to do with their high intelligence coupled with a temperament that can patiently sustain a protracted psychlogical assult/warfare (or something). I mean, I didn't invent the word "stepmotherly", it's been around for millenia. [Temptation and Seduction (I'm reminded) belong in your above list]. Some of the young "mothers", babies havin babies, I've seen in last 10-20 yrs are pretty damn nasty. So double-edged sword, their nature and talents, attributions/associations.  But, nevertheless, the high Goddesses, and being in their service, is a notion that's always appealed to "princes" shall we say.

[Yorkshire pud]

Its a pity she shot herself in the foot with her premature invite, but this is funny.

[Luka Megurine]

Mental illness as in needing supervision.
* Really?
** 26 people isn't too high a price to pay obviously.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513126985/house-votes-to-overturn-obama-rule-restricting-gun-sales-to-mentally-ill

All it did was keep people like falkie from owning guns it did nothing to prevent gun crime. If obama wanted to reduce firearm deaths he would have signed a EO banning blacks from owning guns, that would have got results but still a violation of the second amendment.

[Yorkshire pud]

All it did was keep people like falkie from owning guns it did nothing to prevent gun crime. If obama wanted to reduce firearm deaths he would have signed a EO banning blacks from owning guns, that would have got results but still a violation of the second amendment.

No attrition will ever be enough.

[albrecht]

Why do you think they said that in public? Might it be because they're aware that the WH could throw a tantrum? Everyone knows (apart from seemingly Trump) that  "support American jobs and American-made products." is just window dressing and has no basis in reality. Trump has no idea how aeroplanes are conceived, designed or built. I may even think they come out of the hanger gold plated for all I know. Therefore if Boeing has an order worth $8bn and the production thereof scheduled into their financial planning and staffing over the next five or so years, Iran (the customer) cancelling said order will have major consequences; but then, maybe Trump will take up the slack and buy them instead?

I'm not privy to the actual contract and what all the arrangement with Iran is. Delta cancelled some of a Boeing deal. Not the first time, if it happened, that deals are cancelled. Airbus delayed delivery on stuff. Stuff happens. According to everything I've read, you might have insider news or something, the Iran deal is not "off" yet and not even signed. If I were Boeing I would be more concerned about the various tariffs etc that Trump is promoting since their new planes parts are made in many different countries and then assembled here. But companies always figure a way around rules and figure a way to benefit (or go under.) I recall when NAFTA came into effect we had stuff "made" in Mexico for the tax reasons but really the stuff was made in China and the Mexicans were so bad that even the basic assembly ended up being done here but with a minimum done and material shipped to the Mexico factory first to satisfy NAFTA "value-added" and "rule of origin" requirements of assembly was done there.

[Luka Megurine]

No attrition will ever be enough.

And democrats sell millions of guns and loose elections every time they try kek!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm not privy to the actual contract and what all the arrangement with Iran is. Delta cancelled some of a Boeing deal. Not the first time, if it happened, that deals are cancelled. Airbus delayed delivery on stuff. Stuff happens. According to everything I've read, you might have insider news or something, the Iran deal is not "off" yet and not even signed. If I were Boeing I would be more concerned about the various tariffs etc that Trump is promoting since their new planes parts are made in many different countries and then assembled here. But companies always figure a way around rules and figure a way to benefit (or go under.) I recall when NAFTA came into effect we had stuff "made" in Mexico for the tax reasons but really the stuff was made in China and the Mexicans were so bad that even the basic assembly ended up being done here but with a minimum done and material shipped to the Mexico factory first to satisfy NAFTA "value-added" and "rule of origin" requirements of assembly was done there.

Sticking with Boeing; they have an R&D plant near my home. I've met a few times one of their development engineers (he was in our flying club). He designed the wing on the 787. Boeing won't close that down, tariffs or no tariffs. It will just add to the customer paying more for their tickets.

[albrecht]

True enough, but we don't typically revere or deify the vices or dark truths, only the virtues -- unless You're a Sufi Muslim that is! (see "99 names of God", negative attributes in that list). But I must say, most of _the_ most-evil humans I've encountered have been female. Has to do with their high intelligence coupled with a temperament that can patiently sustain a protracted psychlogical assult/warfare (or something). I mean, I didn't invent the word "stepmotherly", it's been around for millenia. [Temptation and Seduction (I'm reminded) belong in your above list]. Some of the young "mothers", babies havin babies, I've seen in last 10-20 yrs are pretty damn nasty. So double-edged sword, their nature and talents, attributions/associations.  But, nevertheless, the high Goddesses, and being in their service, is a notion that's always appealed to "princes" shall we say.

Yeah, anecdotally bad blood, bullying, etc between women, especially when younger, has always seemed to me to be much harsher than between guys. More psychological and longer-lasting and plain meaner. Whereas I've hard knock-down, drag-out fights with some friends and have friends who've fought each other (usually drunk and usually over some girl issue or stupid argument that got out of hand) and still remain friends to this day and we look back and laugh at it. Remember that time when you decked XYZ over ABC at the bar after the game? Ha, yeah, that was crazy. Etc. Maybe that males, tend, not to be sexist here, can socially-acceptably take out whatever issue there is between them physically and then be done with it? But females tend to harbor, gossip, and use more hurtful long-term techniques in revenge or settlement of discord?

[PB the Deplorable]

Mental illness as in needing supervision...

That's one part of the issue - which I agree with - but it's not the only part.

There's more.

Obama decided Islamic terrorism wasn't a threat here in the US, but ''right wing'' extremists are.  And returning veterans.  It gets back to his world view being wrong.

Anyway, when a returning Vet becomes eligible for disability compensation, they have to go through a review process with the Dept of Veterans Affairs. During this process, a number of Vets, for a variety of reasons, are sometimes found to be unable to manage their own benefits. If this happens they are assigned a financial manager who overseas their benefits.

When this happens they are put on a list of ''Mental Defectives'' and stripped of their right to own a firearm. They get entered into the F.B.I. NICS System, and can no longer legally own or buy a firearm.

The VA process in no way looks at the vet’s mental competence in regards to owning a firearm, but he instantly loses his right to own one.

[albrecht]

Sticking with Boeing; they have an R&D plant near my home. I've met a few times one of their development engineers (he was in our flying club). He designed the wing on the 787. Boeing won't close that down, tariffs or no tariffs. It will just add to the customer paying more for their tickets.

Ultimately all taxes, tariffs, regulatory costs, etc are passed down to customers in some way.

I wish we could do away with terrorists and all this crap so that flying is more fun again. It wasn't too long ago that even non-business or first-class was actually fun, or so I thought. Now even business-class can be a hassle with the lines, security checks, traffic, prices, etc. But regular is like running a gauntlet even once you are past the nickel-and-diming pricing, security checks, lines, etc you find yourself in a down-sized seat, no luggage room, no free drinks or meals, rude stewardesses, unkempt people who bring exotic smelling food on to scarf down, not even given peanuts- lest someone has an allergy. On the good side I heard somewhere that someone is trying to get a Concorde-esque plane back into business. Seriously, it is like we've gone backwards. Why aren't we flying super-sonic? Why aren't we back on the moon? It is crazy.

[PB the Deplorable]

... If obama wanted to reduce firearm deaths he would have signed a EO banning blacks from owning guns, that would have got results but still a violation of the second amendment...

The gun violence is coming from the gangs in our cities, and more and more from Central American gangs and Mexican cartel members leaking across our borders.  Pud knows this, he's certainly heard it enough times.

Due to criminal records for the home grown gang members, and the fact that the criminals from south of the border shouldn't even be here, nearly all of these gun deaths are by people already not eligible to have guns under current law. 

Passing more laws isn't going to impress the local gangs (and taking guns away from the rest of us isn't addressing the problem either)

[PB the Deplorable]

Here is the 2016 electoral vote for president by county.

The Blue sections also show where nearly all gun crime takes place.

[WOTR]

I see that Justin/Yorkie's neighbors were yelling Allahu Akbar while they were being sentenced to long jail terms for molesting children.

It's a good thing that child molestation is the exclusive domain of Muslims and Mexicans.  Otherwise I might be concerned about my neighbours.

[Taaroa]

Why aren't we flying super-sonic?

Too many people and governments complained about noise meaning only certain routes (ie transatlantic) were possible, plus higher associated fuel and maintenance costs.

On the good side I heard somewhere that someone is trying to get a Concorde-esque plane back into business.

I've heard there's a group who are trying to restore a Concorde to flying condition, but there are a variety of other groups who are 'working' on new supersonic passenger plane designs and technologies. Basically though more supersonic passenger planes are not going to happen unless the noise issue is dealt with, but even then it'll probably just be a niche thing like private jets. This picture is an example of a newish technology (the lance) which might help someday:

[Meister_000]

Yeah, anecdotally bad blood, bullying, etc between women, especially when younger, has always seemed to me to be much harsher than between guys. More psychological and longer-lasting and plain meaner. Whereas I've hard knock-down, drag-out fights with some friends and have friends who've fought each other (usually drunk and usually over some girl issue or stupid argument that got out of hand) and still remain friends to this day and we look back and laugh at it. Remember that time when you decked XYZ over ABC at the bar after the game? Ha, yeah, that was crazy. Etc. Maybe that males, tend, not to be sexist here, can socially-acceptably take out whatever issue there is between them physically and then be done with it? But females tend to harbor, gossip, and use more hurtful long-term techniques in revenge or settlement of discord?

Ya, "mean" is a good simple term. They do raise it to an art-form. I think (and I've heard it said elsewhere) that men are more likely to display a single explosive short-lived outburst and then it's usually over (till a next time).