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Election Night 2020

Started by MV/Liberace!, November 03, 2020, 04:41:03 PM

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 01:12:53 PM
It's out on the Washington Post oh lordy what a hoot!

It’s funny to you to listen to the president trying to get Georgia to do the right thing?



K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 01:14:47 PM
It’s funny to you to listen to the president trying to get Georgia to do the right thing?

It is funny because it disproves my theory that all the kraken stuff was for popular consumption and that an actual competent effort to investigate, like with a special prosecutor, was the real aim.  It really is a clown show.

K_Dubb

Quote from: ItsOver on January 03, 2021, 01:13:18 PM
LOL.  “Peaches.”  I figured it might be “Sweet Cheeks.”  ;D

I will answer to either hahaaha

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 01:12:53 PM
It's out on the Washington Post oh lordy what a hoot!
Funny how Amazon News selectively chooses when to hide behind a paywall. But I also heard it was the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which is Cox not Amazon, that did the wiretaps or got the tape. I like that he used the word "schmuck," Jared and that crowd must be a bigger influence than some suspected. 

K_Dubb

"She stuffed the ballot boxes, like they've never been stuffed before!"  ;D

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on January 03, 2021, 01:24:20 PM
Funny how Amazon News selectively chooses when to hide behind a paywall. But I also heard it was the Atlanta Journal Constitution, which is Cox not Amazon, that did the wiretaps or got the tape. I like that he used the word "schmuck," Jared and that crowd must be a bigger influence than some suspected.

They all talk that way back there.  My uncle from NJ was all Yiddish slang though he came from a Mayflower family.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 01:22:45 PM
It is funny because it disproves my theory that all the kraken stuff was for popular consumption and that an actual competent effort to investigate, like with a special prosecutor, was the real aim.  It really is a clown show.

At least you admit you were wrong.

K_Dubb

"They scanned the ballots three times!"
Trumps' own lawyer: "Well I don't know about that, I watched the whole tape."
"Well we had ours magnified."

;D ;D ;D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 01:33:27 PM
"They scanned the ballots three times!"
Trumps' own lawyer: "Well I don't know about that, I watched the whole tape."
"Well we had ours magnified."

;D ;D ;D

Election fraud is funny to you now but if it were Rupublicans doing it you’d be reeeeeing at the moon. ::)

In 2018 Democrats questioned the integrity of the Dominion voting machines but now that they’re the ones committing fraud with it they’re OK with that. ::) ::)


K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 01:41:07 PM
Election fraud is funny to you now but if it were Rupublicans doing it you’d be reeeeeing at the moon. ::)

In 2018 Democrats questioned the integrity of the Dominion voting machines but now that they’re the ones committing fraud with it they’re OK with that. ::) ::)

No I think a special prosecutor would be great, that's about all he can hope for now.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 01:53:27 PM
No I think a special prosecutor would be great, that's about all he can hope for now.

You’re really that confident about the steal?


K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 01:56:33 PM
You’re really that confident about the steal?

I am confident that Dems used covid and other excuses to creatively and strategically expand the franchise in certain areas, using all the tools they are known for.  That is normal politics and done quite openly, people fought about it for months before the election if you remember.  Whether they made sure there were actual voters attached to those ballots and that the votes represented their wishes is an interesting question, but we are unlikely to learn the answer if the discussion stays at the kooky kraken level as we hear here.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 02:26:29 PM
I am confident that Dems used covid and other excuses to creatively and strategically expand the franchise in certain areas, using all the tools they are known for.  That is normal politics and done quite openly, people fought about it for months before the election if you remember.  Whether they made sure there were actual voters attached to those ballots and that the votes represented their wishes is an interesting question, but we are unlikely to learn the answer if the discussion stays at the kooky kraken level as we hear here.

So, as long as they can get away with it seems to be your bar. This sort of cynicism is exactly why I left the left.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 02:37:06 PM
So, as long as they can get away with it seems to be your bar. This sort of cynicism is exactly why I left the left.

There is reason for optimism!  I think the right has made great strides in ensnaring its share of the gullible and ill-informed over the past two cycles, my kraken-chasing friend.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 02:45:45 PM
There is reason for optimism!  I think the right has made great strides in ensnaring its share of the gullible and ill-informed over the past two cycles, my kraken-chasing friend.

You mean gullible and ill-informed enough to ignore election fraud?

ItsOver

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 02:37:06 PM
So, as long as they can get away with it seems to be your bar. This sort of cynicism is exactly why I left the left.
Bingo.  It’s sadly pretty much a case of “catch me if you can...nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!”  And with the leftist machine controlling the D.C. Swamp, corrupt major cities, like Philly, Atlanta, Detroit and the MSM... good luck.  We’ve seen how the FBI and the Justice Department, in general, operate now.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ItsOver on January 03, 2021, 03:09:49 PM
Bingo.  It’s sadly pretty much a case of “catch me if you can...nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh!”  And with the leftist machine controlling the D.C. Swamp, corrupt major cities, like Philly, Atlanta, Detroit and the MSM... good luck.  We’ve seen how the FBI and the Justice Department, in general, operate now.



It’s almost like they don’t even see what huge faggots they are or in K_Dudd’s case, don’t care.


albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 02:26:29 PM
I am confident that Dems used covid and other excuses to creatively and strategically expand the franchise in certain areas, using all the tools they are known for.  That is normal politics and done quite openly, people fought about it for months before the election if you remember.  Whether they made sure there were actual voters attached to those ballots and that the votes represented their wishes is an interesting question, but we are unlikely to learn the answer if the discussion stays at the kooky kraken level as we hear here.
I appreciate this comment "used covid and other excuses to creatively and strategically expand the franchise in certain areas, using all the tools they are known for" though, I guess we could discuss that ending with a preposition. Churchill opined on it and some Verses do it and it is acceptable but, yet, I have a strange reaction to it. I blame a certain school teacher.

But, back to the subject, I think you are correct, in some ways. It is difficult situation for anyone 'conservative' or what formally would be called a 'classic liberal' way because it is functionally hard to explain, or justify, the reasons why freedom doesn't mean license and that voting, or borders, should be protected- or even curtailed.  Interesting parallels with regard to the Roman Church versus the Enlightenment and then the Reformation even. Law versus Spirit. Legalism and so on. Weird attempts to corral or blend same.

Obama, or whatever his name was, actually made some interviews about his positive rights beliefs, that got little attention. Totally contrary to most of our Founders, but that was expected. I said then, and will say again, with that character Obama we should be looking for a post-colonial country like in Africa (Obama campaigned there even for his purported 'cousin')  or the former Yugoslavia in terms of politics. Couple that with a few decades of relativist thinking promoted in schools, corporate conglomerated news channels (then shattered into segmented 'tell them what you want to hear channels,) secularization (politics replace religion except in a few foreign groups allowed in) and 24/7 'news' cycles. Trump, good or bad, and the reactions to them bring this to another head in which, apparently, results in a new Obama administration in which his goals might be furthered.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on January 03, 2021, 03:35:53 PM
I appreciate this comment "used covid and other excuses to creatively and strategically expand the franchise in certain areas, using all the tools they are known for" though, I guess we could discuss that ending with a preposition. Churchill opined on it and some Verses do it and it is acceptable but, yet, I have a strange reaction to it. I blame a certain school teacher.

But, back to the subject, I think you are correct, in some ways. It is difficult situation for anyone 'conservative' or what formally would be called a 'classic liberal' way because it is functionally hard to explain, or justify, the reasons why freedom doesn't mean license and that voting, or borders, should be protected- or even curtailed.  Interesting parallels with regard to the Roman Church versus the Enlightenment and then the Reformation even. Law versus Spirit. Legalism and so on. Weird attempts to corral or blend same.

Haha yeah it is an abomination up with which I will not put!  But you know you are in the loony bin with your civics tests and the like.  Thanks to the old South trying to keep blacks from voting, voting in this country is established as a right like walking down the street designed to be exercised on a whim by idiots and challenged only for cause, before it is counted, with the flimsiest possible safeguards.  I don't see that ever changing, and if the other side plays the game better, the answer is to up your own game.

When you have the Pres wheedling about his rally draw which no one in his right mind can tie to turnout given the Dems' obsession with covid safety, it's just not a serious argument.  Signature verification maybe, but then due to secret-ballot rules, what is the remedy even if you find one that doesn't look right?  You can't uncount it, just report on the total number and hope for a revote.  Fantasy world at this point.

At best you can hope for a cloud of suspicion and a special prosecutor to look into stuff like whatever that woman's name they bleeped was doing and generally handicap the new administration the way Mueller did, which I am all for, but that gets less and less likely the more the Pres keeps shoveling the kraken stuff and looking absurd.  Too easy to dismiss as kooky by association.

K_Dubb

I think they let that bleeped name through once in the beginning, at least when I listened, but I didn't catch it.

So check this out.

"Office of the President Elect" lives at buildbackbetter.gov

Plop that into the trusty online ping utility at https://www.ipaddressguide.com/ping and it resolves to:

PING 66.6.45.1 (66.6.45.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.6.45.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=0.536 ms
64 bytes from 66.6.45.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=0.506 ms
64 bytes from 66.6.45.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=0.516 ms

--- 66.6.45.1 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2051ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.506/0.519/0.536/0.022 ms


66.6.45.1   Hhhmmmm.  Lets do a little Glynis McCants on that rascal


.45.1
45.one
45.won

The 45th President of the United States Won!

Now. 45+1 = 46

Remember the original IP of 66.6.45.1?

666.46   - The 46th President is the Mother F'ing Beast!

A little  IP sleuthing shows that 66.6.45.1 address lives in Tumblr's IP address range:
https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/66.6.32.0

Check out the JSON data

<<SNIP>>
  "handle" : "NET-66-6-32-0-1",
  "startAddress" : "66.6.32.0",
  "endAddress" : "66.6.47.255",
  "ipVersion" : "v4",
  "name" : "TUMBLR-20",
  "type" : "DIRECT ALLOCATION",
  "parentHandle" : "NET-66-0-0-0-0",
  "events" : [ {
    "eventAction" : "last changed",
    "eventDate" : "2020-03-18T15:58:55-04:00"
  }, {
    "eventAction" : "registration",
    "eventDate" : "2011-04-25T17:41:32-04:00"
  } ],

<<SNIP>>
  "entities" : [ {
    "handle" : "TUMBL-1",
    "vcardArray" : [ "vcard", [ [ "version", { }, "text", "4.0" ], [ "fn", { }, "text", "TUMBLR, INC." ], [ "adr", {
      "label" : "35 East 21st St\r\n9W\nNew York\nNY\n10010\nUnited States"
    }, "text", [ "", "", "", "", "", "", "" ] ], [ "kind", { }, "text", "org" ] ] ],
    "roles" : [ "registrant" ],
    "remarks" : [ {
      "title" : "Registration Comments",
      "description" : [ "http://www.tumblr.com/" ]
    } ],


The Tumblr stuff is indeed odd? Why would a .gov domain utilize an address in their range? Obviously someone "wanted" that specific IP.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 03, 2021, 04:11:06 PM
Haha yeah it is an abomination up with which I will not put!  But you know you are in the loony bin with your civics tests and the like.  Thanks to the old South trying to keep blacks from voting, voting in this country is established as a right like walking down the street designed to be exercised on a whim by idiots and challenged only for cause, before it is counted, with the flimsiest possible safeguards.  I don't see that ever changing, and if the other side plays the game better, the answer is to up your own game.

When you have the Pres wheedling about his rally draw which no one in his right mind can tie to turnout given the Dems' obsession with covid safety, it's just not a serious argument.  Signature verification maybe, but then due to secret-ballot rules, what is the remedy even if you find one that doesn't look right?  You can't uncount it, just report on the total number and hope for a revote.  Fantasy world at this point.

At best you can hope for a cloud of suspicion and a special prosecutor to look into stuff like whatever that woman's name they bleeped was doing and generally handicap the new administration the way Mueller did, which I am all for, but that gets less and less likely the more the Pres keeps shoveling the kraken stuff and looking absurd.  Too easy to dismiss as kooky by association.

By “better” I assume you mean more corrupt. So, we should battle that by being even more corrupt than by exposing and addressing the corruption itself?

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 03, 2021, 04:42:52 PM
By “better” I assume you mean more corrupt. So, we should battle that by being even more corrupt than by exposing the corruption itself?

Keep reducing until the solution is clear.


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