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Terror attack in Nice, France

Started by Juan, July 14, 2016, 03:02:36 PM

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on July 14, 2016, 07:09:40 PM
But then the area might be wrecked. Whatever happened to the neutron bomb stuff? Or the stuff that Wouter Basson was working on (in addition to us at Fort Mead and various other countries like Russia, one could imagine likely?) Nukes are so old school and do too much damage to everyone. There are more possible, cleaner, modern solutions to the problem of Islam.

If I remember correctly, it was Carter that cancelled R&D of the neutron bomb.

Uncle Duke

Sorry for having to ask, but been away from the news until just 20 minutes ago, so I'm playing catch up.  It's unclear to me whether the casualties were victims of the rampaging truck or if firearms/explosives were used as well.  Thanks.

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 14, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Sorry for having to ask, but been away from the news until just 20 minutes ago, so I'm playing catch up.  It's unclear to me whether the casualties were victims of the rampaging truck or if firearms/explosives were used as well.  Thanks.

'Assualt' truck. Damn AAA!

chefist

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 14, 2016, 07:22:05 PM
Sorry for having to ask, but been away from the news until just 20 minutes ago, so I'm playing catch up.  It's unclear to me whether the casualties were victims of the rampaging truck or if firearms/explosives were used as well.  Thanks.

Seems most were from the truck...the shots on the windshield mean that the officials were firing at the driver while still in the truck...

albrecht

Quote from: mv on July 14, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
i don't remember any of that.  i do, however, recall questions about whether chelsea will have another baby and what pantsuit line best obscures her cankles.
Ha. Yeah. It was some interesting times. Obviously, the Serbs and Croats did some very bad, ugly stuff but, then again, they were fighting against very vicious Muslim enemies who did the same. And I still don't buy that the CIA (the ONLY CIA directed NATO bombing of that campaign) "didn't know" where the Chinese Embassy was?? Come on. And I've heard that the stand-off at the airport in Pristina was one of the closest things since Cuba for WWIII according to this guy and some others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blunt


aldousburbank

Quote from: mv on July 14, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
if tonight's performance was any preview of a future clinton appearance, then the ratings should be appropriately dismal when she returns.

When Trump is POTUS the news networks are going to get tired of ratings believe me. They're going to say please stop with so much of these fabulous ratings all the time but we're going to say no. Your ratings are unbelievable.

albrecht

Quote from: GravitySucks on July 14, 2016, 07:21:31 PM
If I remember correctly, it was Carter that cancelled R&D of the neutron bomb.
that darn peacenik. I'm sure we have some stuff on the drawing board. I still think clever biological or chemical are the way to go (once one makes the awful decision it is necessary.) Could even be targeted not on race/ethnic status but to crops, water supply, livestock, etc and take enemies, like Islamic countries, out with an end-around. And plausible deniability. Heck, even could come in as a savior with food/water. "Oh how awful that bird flu and foot and mouth variant killed all your livestock and your water is not potable." Give up Islam and your ways and here is some GMO crops and organisms and bottled Nestle water to feed your bellies! (put in chemicals in them to make reproduction of those people less also.)

akwilly

Quote from: albrecht on July 14, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
Ha. Yeah. It was some interesting times. Obviously, the Serbs and Croats did some very bad, ugly stuff but, then again, they were fighting against very vicious Muslim enemies who did the same. And I still don't buy that the CIA (the ONLY CIA directed NATO bombing of that campaign) "didn't know" where the Chinese Embassy was?? Come on. And I've heard that the stand-off at the airport in Pristina was one of the closest things since Cuba for WWIII according to this guy and some others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blunt
damn I had no idea about James Blunt's military stuff.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: mv on July 14, 2016, 07:17:40 PM
i don't remember any of that.  i do, however, recall questions about whether chelsea will have another baby and what pantsuit line best obscures her cankles.
Careful.  No mocking the next Senator from NY. 

albrecht

Quote from: akwilly on July 14, 2016, 07:31:08 PM
damn I had no idea about James Blunt's military stuff.
Ha, and I didn't know about his music until searching for the story on the stand-off again a few years ago!

Uncle Duke

Just found a SkyNews feed of President Hollande's speech to the French people.  The crawler along the bottom of screen says "official sources" are claiming the driver of the truck did fire on and kill a number of his victims.  That makes more sense to me.

Thanks for the help guys.

aldousburbank


Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast


http://youtu.be/ekoxIb85rww

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 14, 2016, 07:33:47 PM
Just found a SkyNews feed of President Hollande's speech to the French people.  The crawler along the bottom of screen says "official sources" are claiming the driver of the truck did fire on and kill a number of his victims.  That makes more sense to me.

Thanks for the help guys.

I think I heard there was a machine gun involved.  How that can happen in France, I don't know.  :P

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on July 14, 2016, 07:07:12 PM
The politicians aren't a solution. One can hope that some cops and military go "rouge"...

That takes courage, to be sure, but I'm unclear as to how that will help.


starrmtn001

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 14, 2016, 07:33:47 PM
Just found a SkyNews feed of President Hollande's speech to the French people.  The crawler along the bottom of screen says "official sources" are claiming the driver of the truck did fire on and kill a number of his victims.  That makes more sense to me.

Thanks for the help guys.

Sky News Live

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on July 14, 2016, 07:42:29 PM
That takes courage, to be sure, but I'm unclear as to how that will help.


:)
Though actually the trannies and homosexuals should be some of the first to want to clear Europe, and here,of Islamists considering the actions against them.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: GravitySucks on July 14, 2016, 07:21:31 PM
If I remember correctly, it was Carter that cancelled R&D of the neutron bomb.
Yep.  No physical damage meant too much temptation for mankind sed Jimma.  Should've been called the fumigation bomb.  But since Carter was followed by 12 years of RR and GHWB, I bet we have a few squirrelled away.

albrecht

Not that there should be any humor in this latest act of peaceful Islam but has any politician, radio host or caller said "nice" instead of pronoucing like your sibling's kid?


VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on July 14, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
Not that there should be any humor in this latest act of peaceful Islam but has any politician, radio host or caller said "nice" instead of pronoucing like your sibling's kid?
Not sure I get why we call that city "Neece" and Marseilles "Marsay" but Paris isn't "Paree".

akwilly

Quote from: VtaGeezer on July 14, 2016, 08:09:30 PM
Not sure I get why we call that city "Neece" and Marseilles "Marsay" but Paris isn't "Paree".
or Chile not chilly

Uncle Duke

Quote from: albrecht on July 14, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
Ha. Yeah. It was some interesting times. Obviously, the Serbs and Croats did some very bad, ugly stuff but, then again, they were fighting against very vicious Muslim enemies who did the same. And I still don't buy that the CIA (the ONLY CIA directed NATO bombing of that campaign) "didn't know" where the Chinese Embassy was?? Come on. And I've heard that the stand-off at the airport in Pristina was one of the closest things since Cuba for WWIII according to this guy and some others:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Blunt

Back a dozen years or so ago, the wing commander of the B-2 unit at the time of the NATO raids on Belgrade gave an open to the public, unclassified presentation at the USAF Museum on the role of the B-2 in that conflict.  During Q&A, he was asked point blank about the attack on the Chinese Embassy.  He simply said, "We hit every target we intended to hit."

albrecht

Quote from: akwilly on July 14, 2016, 08:14:13 PM
or Chile not chilly
Like TX or Mex weather. Chili today, hot tamale. But on subject German towns seem to even be more Anglicized weirdly. Regardless of naming. Kick the Muslims and 'refugees' out!

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: VtaGeezer on July 14, 2016, 07:17:20 PM
Mo even stipulated how you're to wipe yer ass.  Really...he did.

islam (submission in english) is so much more than just a "religion."  it's a complete philosophy/ideology and system of living, which is why i think it is totally open to and deserving of direct criticism.  islam provides rules for everything from eating to dressing yourself to bathing to fucking to singing to handling money to warring.  yeah, i get it, most of those facets of life are also blueprinted by the barbaric ancient texts of other faiths, but unfortunately, the islamic populations of the world are disproportionately adhering to the extreme tenets of their faith.

when my muslim wife and i have argued about islam and its place in the world, she of course has presented the familiar argument that the overwhelming majority of muslims are normal people, which i do agree to be irrefutably true.  however, i've further responded that she, her family, and other similar people are not practicing their actual faith and are, in fact, not the muslims they believe themselves to be.  i think it's analogous to gay churches or churches who welcome gay participants.  while i think it's fabulous for gays in this christian nation to be free, safe, and treated with inclusion and kindness, it requires christians to ignore the barbaric (and basic) tenets of their faith... and thank god they're ignoring them.  the "normal people" of the islamic world, i argue, are doing the same.  isis, i'm convinced, is as close to pure islam... to pure emulation of the prophet... as one can get.

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Leviticus 20:13:

ASV: (American Standard Version, 1901) "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Darby: (J.N. Darby Translation, 1890): "And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them."
ESV: (English Standard Version): "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
HNV: (Hebrew Names Version): "If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
KJV: (King James Version): "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
LB: (Living Bible): "The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have brought it upon themselves."
NASB: (New American Standard Bible): "'If {there is} a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. "
Net Bible: "If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves." 1
NIV: (New International Version) "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
NKJV: (New King James Version) "If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."
NLT: (New Living Translation): "The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have committed a detestable act, and are guilty of a capital offense."
RSV: (Revised Standard Version): "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them."
Webster: (Noah Webster Version, 1833): "If a man also shall lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them."
Young: (Robert Young Literal Translation, 1898) "And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood [is] on them."



aldousburbank

MV gets it.

Quote from: mv on July 14, 2016, 08:25:37 PM
islam (submission in english) is so much more than just a "religion."  it's a complete philosophy/ideology and system of living, which is why i think it is totally open to and deserving of direct criticism.  islam provides rules for everything from eating to dressing yourself to bathing to fucking to singing to handling money to warring.  yeah, i get it, most of those facets of life are also blueprinted by the barbaric ancient texts of other faiths, but unfortunately, the islamic populations of the world are disproportionately adhering to the extreme tenets of their faith.

when my muslim wife and i have argued about islam and its place in the world, she of course has presented the familiar argument that the overwhelming majority of muslims are normal people, which i do agree to be irrefutably true.  however, i've further responded that she, her family, and other similar people are not practicing their actual faith and are, in fact, not the muslims they believe themselves to be.  i think it's analogous to gay churches or churches who welcome gay participants.  while i think it's fabulous for gays in this christian nation to be free, safe, and treated with inclusion and kindness, it requires christians to ignore the barbaric (and basic) tenets of their faith... and thank god they're ignoring them.  the "normal people" of the islamic world, i argue, are doing the same.  isis, i'm convinced, is as close to pure islam... to pure emulation of the prophet... as one can get.


MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on July 14, 2016, 07:20:20 PM
But none on why Chelsea looks like Webb Hubbell with boobies?



isn't the resemblance striking?  however, when i look at chelsea, i see webster AND bill, which only confuses me.

albrecht

Quote from: Uncle Duke on July 14, 2016, 08:21:59 PM
Back a dozen years or so ago, the wing commander of the B-2 unit at the time of the NATO raids on Belgrade gave an open to the public, unclassified presentation at the USAF Museum on the role of the B-2 in that conflict.  During Q&A, he was asked point blank about the attack on the Chinese Embassy.  He simply said, "We hit every target we intended to hit."
Wow. I think we discussed before but im forgetting events. Did we hit Chinese Embassy before or after some 'stealth'plane was taken down? I recall talk that Serbs sold/gave the stuff to Russia and/or Chi-coms and one theory was embassy hit was for that. And that cellphone tower analyisis (passive radar of sorts) was used to target our 'stealth?'

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: chefist on July 14, 2016, 07:23:48 PM
Seems most were from the truck...the shots on the windshield mean that the officials were firing at the driver while still in the truck...

i heard on FNC that the driver exited the vehicle and began firing at the crowd, but like any media operation, the people at FNC are fucking idiots who get nothing right until the dust has settled, and even then you're taking your chances.

Quote from: mv on July 14, 2016, 08:25:37 PM
islam (submission in english) is so much more than just a "religion."  it's a complete philosophy/ideology and system of living, which is why i think it is totally open to and deserving of direct criticism.  islam provides rules for everything from eating to dressing yourself to bathing to fucking to singing to handling money to warring.  yeah, i get it, most of those facets of life are also blueprinted by the barbaric ancient texts of other faiths, but unfortunately, the islamic populations of the world are disproportionately adhering to the extreme tenets of their faith.


Interesting, so it's like Confucianism crossed with Christianity?

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