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Jeb Bush

Started by MV/Liberace!, January 05, 2016, 11:35:15 AM

albrecht

Now Jeb is bringing out his mommy. Jeez, it is really getting pitiful.

VtaGeezer

It was a mistake.  I just saw her answer a few questions and she's tougher than Jeb.  And Trump will say his 90 yr old mother has higher energy than he.

bateman

Quote from: MV on February 05, 2016, 10:09:16 AM
"Please clap."

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdCYMvaUcrA

He is the personification of "okay" face.




Zoo

i have to bring my mommy out because I can not when on my own.

MOMMY they are picking on me :'(. Tell them it is my turn to be President!!1

albrecht

If you even have any trust in polls. Jeb is now, supposedly, number two in NH.
http://www.theecps.com/
More worryingly though another Billionaire, but one with very anti-American views, is closer to jumping into the race. It will be curious to see if he jumps in, what that would mean for his media empire and investments, and if his disparaging comments about blacks etc will make news. (And if the NRA can motivate enough people against him.) It would be an interesting dynamic because, at least on paper, he would pull votes from the Democrats- particularly Billary. But who knows?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b6d1fc34-ce9f-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377.html#axzz3zchMOasW

Poor ol` Babs. She`s a damn good, smart, honorable woman. What a shame Jeb has to drag her out in the freezing cold snow, with her little walker, to go campaign for him in a losing effort. Two years ago, Barbra Bush said the country didn`t need another Bush. She should remind Jeb of that.


VtaGeezer

Bush supporter calls the "Jeb for President" office in Manchester NH and asks when Jeb's next appearance would be.  Reply: "When will you be here?"

"Jeb helped lay the groundwork for the future Reagan-Bush administration's 1980s covert war against Nicaragua and leftist guerrillas in El Salvador by establishing banking and money laundering links between the CIA and the Medellin and Cali drug cartels. Jeb's friends in the Colombian cartels, particularly Medellin cartel boss Pablo Escobar, would helped finance the Nicaraguan contras in return for CIA-supplied weapons. While in Venezuela, Jeb cleverly managed to hide the Colombian cartel's drug revenues as oil industry revenues of "front" companies. Texas Commerce Bank was the bank of choice for Latin American drug cartels. It was later discovered to have stashed $7 million in drug profits for the Gulf cartel of Mexico."
            Gene "Chip" Tatum      http://www.chiptatum.com/index.php/articles/50-jeb-bush-the-early-years

cweb

Ah, Jeb.

Who would his running mate be, a turnip?

the_Stranger

Quote from: cweb on February 10, 2016, 06:22:34 AM
Ah, Jeb.

Who would his running mate be, a turnip?

Speaking of Gov. Scott Walker, he is available.


Quote from: Walks_At_Night on February 11, 2016, 04:48:07 PM


What a maroon!  Although, to be fair, Dubya always got the ears and peas thing backwards, so Jeb has the edge there.


Sean92008

The only practical reason to elect another Bush...

To make all those losers who STILL have "Blame Bush," "Impeach Bush" and "It's Bush's Fault" bumper stickers pertinent again.

albrecht

Quote from: Sean92008 on February 13, 2016, 08:00:30 PM
The only practical reason to elect another Bush...

To make all those losers who STILL have "Blame Bush," "Impeach Bush" and "It's Bush's Fault" bumper stickers pertinent again.
Haha. Good point! And it would ensure this character Obama's legacy because if the economy implodes or one of Obama's precious Muslims does some more terrorism it will be Bush's fault-- again!

cweb

True story- I recently had a dream nightmare that I was working as a media producer for the Jeb Bush campaign. I was throwing out all sorts of good ideas, only to be shot down by the lame ones devised by campaign staffers.

At one point during the whole thing, I remember remarking to Jeb "wow dude, you are fucking boring."

Then I woke up. Thank God I woke up.


Zoo

I thought it was funny when Trump told Jeb his Mom should run because she was stronger than him LMFAO!!1

onan

Quote from: Zoo on February 14, 2016, 07:06:33 PM
I thought it was funny when Trump told Jeb his Mom should run because she was stronger than him LMFAO!!1

School yard ranking should be left at the school yard. I'm glad you found it funny. But, as much as I like clever, I expect reasoned discussion from someone seeking to be the President of the United States. I am quite tired of the Jerry Springer moments being elevated to some suggestion of character.

136 or 142

Quote from: onan on February 15, 2016, 03:14:03 AM
School yard ranking should be left at the school yard. I'm glad you found it funny. But, as much as I like clever, I expect reasoned discussion from someone seeking to be the President of the United States. I am quite tired of the Jerry Springer moments being elevated to some suggestion of character.

I thought it was an appropriate response.  Jeb Bush's view seems to be "I want to take on all of the positives of my brother's administration (I don't think there are any, but anyway) and of my father's administration (for the handful of people who remember it) but don't you dare mention any of the negatives."

I think mockery of that ridiculous assertion is the best response.

onan

Quote from: 136 or 142 on February 15, 2016, 04:42:25 AM
I thought it was an appropriate response.  Jeb Bush's view seems to be "I want to take on all of the positives of my brother's administration (I don't think there are any, but anyway) and of my father's administration (for the handful of people who remember it) but don't you dare mention any of the negatives."

I think mockery of that ridiculous assertion is the best response.

I only saw the highlights, that being said, if Trump had spoken as you explain then fine. However any your mom stuff is demonstrative of someone lacking the composure to discuss complicated issues that need presidential composure. Something lacking in several candidates.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: onan on February 15, 2016, 05:32:02 AM
I only saw the highlights, that being said, if Trump had spoken as you explain then fine. However any your mom stuff is demonstrative of someone lacking the composure to discuss complicated issues that need presidential composure. Something lacking in several candidates.


I agree Onan; I said elsewhere that of the little I've seen of these alleged debates, it doesn't look good. It might be seen as funny and 'Ya, fuck ya' to adopt the schoolyard yelling; which appeals to the hard of thinking or reasoning. But it is hardly the sort of material to be taken seriously when it matters with foreign leaders and diplomats. Two can play that game behind closed doors, and if Trump (or others) took the attitude he's adopted with certain foreign leaders, he may find he'll be nursing a bloody nose (literally and metaphorically). It isn't clever, cool or whatever other level of attainment some might think is appropriate.

littlechris

Quote from: onan on February 15, 2016, 05:32:02 AM
I only saw the highlights, that being said, if Trump had spoken as you explain then fine. However any your mom stuff is demonstrative of someone lacking the composure to discuss complicated issues that need presidential composure. Something lacking in several candidates.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on February 15, 2016, 05:54:32 AM

I agree Onan; I said elsewhere that of the little I've seen of these alleged debates, it doesn't look good. It might be seen as funny and 'Ya, fuck ya' to adopt the schoolyard yelling; which appeals to the hard of thinking or reasoning. But it is hardly the sort of material to be taken seriously when it matters with foreign leaders and diplomats. Two can play that game behind closed doors, and if Trump (or others) took the attitude he's adopted with certain foreign leaders, he may find he'll be nursing a bloody nose (literally and metaphorically). It isn't clever, cool or whatever other level of attainment some might think is appropriate.


http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/02/14/krauthammer-cbs-republican-debate-was-thermonuclear-war-we-went-wwe-ufc

Oh and by the way, Happy Presidents' Day!!! ;D

Quote from: onan on February 15, 2016, 05:32:02 AM
I only saw the highlights, that being said, if Trump had spoken as you explain then fine. However any your mom stuff is demonstrative of someone lacking the composure to discuss complicated issues that need presidential composure. Something lacking in several candidates.

That's the ironic aspect of the whole exchange.  Trump is trying to point out a character trait that he thinks makes Bush an unfit (or less than ideal) candidate.  But he does so using a character trait which likewise shows him to be the same.

Someone once said that we get the country we deserve.  I don't blame Trump nearly as much as I blame the people for being shallow, lazy fuckwits and preferring this moronic "entertainment" to a more prosaic, reasonable search for the best chief executive.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: FearBoysWithBugs on February 15, 2016, 06:13:17 AM
That's the ironic aspect of the whole exchange.  Trump is trying to point out a character trait that he thinks makes Bush an unfit (or less than ideal) candidate.  But he does so using a character trait which likewise shows him to be the same.

Someone once said that we get the country we deserve.  I don't blame Trump nearly as much as I blame the people for being shallow, lazy fuckwits and preferring this moronic "entertainment" to a more prosaic, reasonable search for the best chief executive.

Similar school of thought says we deserve the politicians we get; but you're right on the rest of what you say. Sadly the same sort of mindset has infested British politics for far too long. Ten second sound bites become undiscussed policy; Shouting matches become 'mature debate' etc...neither is true. The reasons anyone here in the UK knows anything about Trump are three major things: His television apprentice shite: His bullying tactics to ride over the locals at the golf courses he has in Scotland (which apparently are haemorrhaging money): and his ludicrous campaign based pretty much on distaste of anyone or anything he doesn't like and  this also appeals to the low hanging fruit (read: Not that bright).

For the sake of the US, I hope what he's doing is a joke, and at the last minute he'll say 'I had you going there didn't I?'..Because if he does get nominated and frighteningly becomes your next C in C, you'll think Obama/Bush Jnr/Clinton/Carter/Reagan were pillars of perfection in human form by comparison. Trump is dangerous and an idiot...Know anyone else in South East Asia or Eastern Europe of a similar persuasion?

136 or 142

Quote from: onan on February 15, 2016, 05:32:02 AM
I only saw the highlights, that being said, if Trump had spoken as you explain then fine. However any your mom stuff is demonstrative of someone lacking the composure to discuss complicated issues that need presidential composure. Something lacking in several candidates.

No, Trump didn't say that and he didn't even imply that, but mockery is, in my opinion, the best approach.

Jeb Bush brought up both his mother and his father completely unprompted (Donald Trump only discussed and more or less accurately the failures of the George W. Bush Administration.) I can only guess that Jeb brought up his parents as a way to suggest that Donald Trump was unfairly going after the entire Bush family.  In that context, not only was Trump's reply humorous and, in my opinion, brilliant mockery, but it also thoroughly rebutted Jeb's lie that Donald Trump was attacking his mother and father.

I don't dispute that Donald Trump doesn't display the temperament to be President (though I personally think Trump's behaviour is pretty much entirely an act) but I also don't think that Jeb Bush's behaviour is presidential material either, and Donald Trump deserves to be commended for prosecuting the record of the George W Bush administration.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 136 or 142 on February 15, 2016, 06:36:10 AM
No, Trump didn't say that and he didn't even imply that, but mockery is, in my opinion, the best approach.

Jeb Bush brought up both his mother and his father completely unprompted (Donald Trump only discussed and more or less accurately the failures of the George W. Bush Administration.) I can only guess that Jeb brought up his parents as a way to suggest that Donald Trump was unfairly going after the entire Bush family.  In that context, not only was Trump's reply humorous and, in my opinion, brilliant mockery, but it also thoroughly rebutted Jeb's lie that Donald Trump was attacking his mother and father.

I don't dispute that Donald Trump doesn't display the temperament to be President (though I personally think Trump's behaviour is pretty much entirely an act) but I also don't think that Jeb Bush's behaviour is President material either, and Donald Trump deserves to be commended for prosecuting the record of George W Bush.


Hmm, and what of Trumps 'record'? Born into billions, had an unfortunate heel bone problem that meant he avoided the draft (all the more galling that he dismissed someone who got captured as not worthy of his respect!), is an out and out bully. Has absolutely no time for anyone who contradicts him or has a difference of opinion..He's a megalomaniac sociopath. Not Presidential material.

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