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Midnight In The Desert

Started by Falkie2013, December 11, 2015, 11:13:40 PM

Lilith

Quote from: El Chorro on May 15, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
These two guests must be thinking, "um, I thought this was a woo show??"

I know, refreshing, right?

TigerLily


chefist

That's the area where the Nimitz incident took place.

Dyna-X

Quote from: El Chorro on May 15, 2018, 11:15:37 PM
These two guests must be thinking, "um, I thought this was a woo show??"
There is at least some validity to all these topics. The problem is most hosts will let the guest get away with untested new agey or snow job kinds of answers. I appreciate that Dave has a friendly approach but isn't afraid to ask tough questions. There is a thirst out there for this and the audience will build in time.

Doomed

I gave a quick check on noory. Tonight he is pimping vegetarian hemroid cream.
Ah. Here we go. Preston and his USO's. I'd like to know what those two American fighter pilots were tracking.

painter17

lot of UFO activity there, I used to live right there  in pacific beach san diego the 1st ever UFO
crash supposedly

Quote from: TigerLily on May 15, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
You have to die first  :'( . I'm not in any hurry

Awww.  You are so sweet.
To be honest, I think I'll pass on that
for the time being as well.
;)

chefist

Quote from: Doomed on May 15, 2018, 11:22:56 PM
I gave a quick check on noory. Tonight he is pimping vegetarian hemroid cream.
Ah. Here we go. Preston and his USO's. I'd like to know what those two American fighter pilots were tracking.

Exactly...I haven't heard of any size estimates on the radar contacts. That would be interesting to know.

Oh Good...Dave's getting to it! Awesome.

El Chorro

Quote from: brig on May 15, 2018, 11:19:48 PM
I know, refreshing, right?

Yes. This new guy is sweating. "I, uh, mainly focus on this puddle in my, uh, back yard."

Lilith

The Fukushima question is a very good question IMO.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 15, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Yeah, I am with you.  She's thought a lot more about this stuff than I have, so I'll listen.

Personally, I think focusing on believe/don't believe with stuff like this is shallow.  Belief is an ephemeral thing and only acquires substance when you act on it, and few people listening have the slightest idea how they'll act when the occasion arises, or if there's even a choice.  It's just information you take in.
Ever read Swendenborg? I'm sure you have Soren (cant figure on phone how to do letters.) Interesting, both. The former is weirdly forgotten, sorta, but would seem should be more?

Lilith

Quote from: chefist on May 15, 2018, 11:22:00 PM
That's the area where the Nimitz incident took place.

You got a shoutout  :)

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 15, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Yeah, I am with you.  She's thought a lot more about this stuff than I have, so I'll listen.

Personally, I think focusing on believe/don't believe with stuff like this is shallow.  Belief is an ephemeral thing and only acquires substance when you act on it, and few people listening have the slightest idea how they'll act when the occasion arises, or if there's even a choice.  It's just information you take in.

Yeah, it's the cheapest exchange you can have with presented experience. Which might be my only real critique of Dave, sometimes he'll litigate the guest like he's a Redditor whoring for upvotes, sating the dull public mind with practiced reality. Art was the best at restraining that impulse for the sake of narrative and mystery.  Art's audience doesn't exist anymore, people's brains are different, which might also account for a big part of his success with these topics?


painter17

Quote from: chefist on May 15, 2018, 11:24:47 PM
Exactly...I haven't heard of any size estimates on the radar contacts. That would be interesting to know.

Oh Good...Dave's getting to it! Awesome.

is that the one that rotated like 90 degrees in flight?

Nobody

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 15, 2018, 05:44:11 PM
Wish I had a dump button.  Every now and then I feel like Elvis on the toilet.  I'm pushing hard to get the damn thing out and I'm wondering if I'm going to survive the experience.

Call yourself an Art Bell fan, do you?  Squatty Potty.   :P

Joking aside, so-called "squat toilets" are supposedly easier to use than Western-style sit-down ones.  I have never seen an SP, but I have seen a sort of "platform" you can retrofit to a regular toilet; you might want to look at one of those.  :)

zeebo

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 15, 2018, 11:02:21 PM
Yeah, I am with you.  She's thought a lot more about this stuff than I have, so I'll listen.

Personally, I think focusing on believe/don't believe with stuff like this is shallow.  Belief is an ephemeral thing and only acquires substance when you act on it, and few people listening have the slightest idea how they'll act when the occasion arises, or if there's even a choice.  It's just information you take in.

I think it's good to push back a bit on meandering guests, but I do prefer a certain amount of latitude given we're often talking about fringe topics that can't necessarily be held to such scrutiny.  Some folks want the tough questions or even full-on debunk mode from an interviewer.  But I listen to this stuff because I'm interested in the speculation, the "what if's", sometimes I just like hearing the tales for the fun/curiosity of it.

I thought the NDE lady, although a bit undisciplined, was pretty interesting - some of her observations I'd never heard before.  I don't hold her to the same scientific standards that I would say a meteorologist or astrophysicist.  Likewise I enjoyed Adair when he was on - even if he's a total fraud he was still a kick to listen to if only for pure entertainment value. 

It's a fine line I guess and each interviewer has to pick where they're comfortable.  I like that Dave is articulate, intelligent, and well-informed.  But when it comes to his analytical side, I hope he errs on the side of encouraging an exploration of ideas and experiences.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
Ever read Swendenborg? I'm sure you have Soren (cant figure on phone how to do letters.) Interesting, both. The former is weirdly forgotten, sorta, but would seem should be more?

I have not, but I should.  Thank you for reminding me.

Dyna-X

Quote from: brig on May 15, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
You got a shoutout  :)

One question for Preston: Did you hear of any UFO incidents on the Nimitz in the 1977-1978 time frame in the North Atlantic. The carrier jets were chasing orange orbs to 50,000 feet when they would shoot off and reappear, chasing the planes back to landings on the carrier. A friend was there as a radar tech.

chefist

Quote from: brig on May 15, 2018, 11:26:17 PM
You got a shoutout  :)

Ha...I missed that...thanks, Brig.  :D

chefist

Quote from: painter17 on May 15, 2018, 11:27:31 PM
is that the one that rotated like 90 degrees in flight?

Yes, and very high speeds just above the surface of the ocean.

painter17

Quote from: chefist on May 15, 2018, 11:31:15 PM
Yes, and very high speeds just above the surface of the ocean.


damn....that is amazing that one....

Spookcat

Quote from: Nobody on May 15, 2018, 11:29:16 PM
Call yourself an Art Bell fan, do you?  Squatty Potty.   :P

Joking aside, so-called "squat toilets" are supposedly easier to use than Western-style sit-down ones.  I have never seen an SP, but I have seen a sort of "platform" you can retrofit to a regular toilet; you might want to look at one of those.  :)

Squat toilets are okay if you don't mind taking your pants completely off every time. Then you have to worry if there's toilet paper or just a shower head and whether or not it is the type to flush.


El Chorro

Quote from: malachi.martini on May 15, 2018, 11:26:41 PM
Yeah, it's the cheapest exchange you can have with presented experience. Which might be my only real critique of Dave, sometimes he'll litigate the guest like he's a Redditor whoring for upvotes, sating the dull public mind with practiced reality. Art was the best at restraining that impulse for the sake of narrative and mystery.  Art's audience doesn't exist anymore, people's brains are different, which might also account for a big part of his success with these topics?

That's a good point about how Art played along with guests, but just as we're different listeners today, I wonder if some of the genre guests just aren't as good at stringing along the yarns. Have the guests that made Art's technique possible no longer around, or their aging presentations too dated, and the newer personalities not as good at the game?

GravitySucks

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
Ever read Swendenborg? I'm sure you have Soren (cant figure on phone how to do letters.) Interesting, both. The former is weirdly forgotten, sorta, but would seem should be more?

Ön my iphöne, you hold your finger on the letter and alternate phonetics pop up.

painter17

preston dennett, he's been pretty good ufo researcher  in recent years

Quote from: Nobody on May 15, 2018, 11:29:16 PM
Call yourself an Art Bell fan, do you?  Squatty Potty.   :P

Joking aside, so-called "squat toilets" are supposedly easier to use than Western-style sit-down ones.  I have never seen an SP, but I have seen a sort of "platform" you can retrofit to a regular toilet; you might want to look at one of those.  :)

If only Elvis had a squatty potty, he may still be alive today.

Seriously when I first heard Larry King hocking that on the radio,  I spewed out my drink all over the keyboard. :P

TigerLily

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2018, 11:26:14 PM
Ever read Swendenborg? I'm sure you have Soren (cant figure on phone how to do letters.) Interesting, both. The former is weirdly forgotten, sorta, but would seem should be more?

OMG. Just last week I got through about a third of Swedenborg then gave up for awhile. Really interesting considering its 18th century. Only the Age of Enlightenment probably saved him from burning at the stake. I stopped to read the backstory on him. All the biblical, Christian references are little difficult for me. Pagan that I am

I guess he must have gotten on skype.  Thought it was a different person.

GravitySucks

Quote from: painter17 on May 15, 2018, 11:34:20 PM
preston dennett, he's been pretty good ufo researcher  in recent years

Is he the one that reinvented his childhood sighting into a childhood abduction with his sister?

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