Midnight In The Desert

[norland2424]

The legs are not amputated at the same place. Please discuss this with SV. I posted side by side pictures of them. While there are similarities, it is two different people.

Yea nick vought has smaller stumps then jeff bauman.

[Chocolate coated jackboot]

So if anyone wants to recommend an idea for a show to Heather, I may have one. I'm currently reading an article in a Reader's Digest about children who claim to have had past lives. Many are young, no more than five years old, who have some crazy stories to tell. That may make for an interesting topic if you could get a researcher who deals with that sort of thing on the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESrd3mMop0

An interesting topic that would be wasted on G.E.D. Wade. Bring on hubrid-guy for the 20th time

[Dr. MD MD]

Was Thursday nights show any good? Didn't really scroll through that nights postings, but I read about the truther calling in...

I know! Those assholes make me sick to my stomach!  :

You know who else does? These assholes that think people should be allowed to speak freely: I'm gonna call them "freedomers"  :

Don't they know that Heather knows what's best for us?! She'll let us know what's cool to think about and what's not 

[Taco Bell]

I know! Those assholes make me sick to my stomach!  :

You know who else does? These assholes that think people should be allowed to speak freely: I'm gonna call them "freedomers"  :

Don't they know that Heather knows what's best for us?! She'll let us know what's cool to think about and what's not 

So...is the show worth a listen or should I spend that time looking at cat pictures?

[Mind Flayer Monk]

So...is the show worth a listen or should I spend that time looking at cat pictures?

Yes, it's worth listening to.

[norland2424]

So...is the show worth a listen or should I spend that time looking at cat pictures?

better spend your time looking at those pussy pictures

[GravitySucks]

better spend your time looking at those pussy pictures

[henge0stone]

Yeah, a host who won't even entertain 9-11 conspiracy theories (which frankly have a MOUNTAIN of evidence to back them up) makes for a damn lame late night radio show.  Art was such a good host that he could be forgiven for that prejudice, but Heather?  Not a chance. 

I disagree. You said yourself that Art was talented enough to pull it off so that right there shows that the belief in a 9/11 conspiracy doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you can do a good radio show on the paranormal. Conspiracy and paranormal are connected in many ways but they really are two different genres.

I don't want to turn this into a debate but just because you see a Mountain of evidence there doesn't mean everyone else sees it that way. There's also a mountain of evidence that it happened for the most part the way it came down that people who believe in the conspiracy ignore.

[Dr. MD MD]

I disagree. You said yourself that Art was talented enough to pull it off so that right there shows that the belief in a 9/11 conspiracy doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you can do a good radio show on the paranormal. Conspiracy and paranormal are connected in many ways but they really are two different genres.

I don't want to turn this into a debate but just because you see a Mountain of evidence there doesn't mean everyone else sees it that way. There's also a mountain of evidence that it happened for the most part the way it came down that people who believe in the conspiracy ignore.

Right. One side ignores certain evidence and so does the other. It's how the anomalies of that day are explained away by the official story that seems less credible to me though. Like she said, there are just so many of them that the likelihood of it just all being coincidence becomes improbable.

[=Schlyder=]

Right. One side ignores certain evidence and so does the other. It's how the anomalies of that day are explained away by the official story that seems less credible to me though. Like she said, there are just so many of them that the likelihood of it just all being coincidence becomes improbable.

yes. Little things that just don't wash with explanations... for example.

Molten metal seen in videos, pouring off the building... glowing orange.. dripping big time.
...was explained away by the commission to be molten aluminum from the planes.

Here's the kicker.... molten aluminum does not glow orange.  there is no glow or color change at all.  It stays silver in color in it's molten state.
How do I know this?  I am a journeyman welder.   here is video of the molten metal.. and one of molten aluminum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzdO0EPOGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI
 

[=Schlyder=]

 Here is one with testimony quotes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_jMrJGF9M#t=43

[Dr. MD MD]

Here is one with testimony quotes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy_jMrJGF9M#t=43

Yeah, or how about all those cars parked blocks away from the buildings that were all burnt looking when nothing else around them was. Strange days, indeed! Most peculiar, mama! 

[=Schlyder=]

Yeah, or how about all those cars parked blocks away from the buildings that were all burnt looking when nothing else around them was. Strange days, indeed! Most peculiar, mama! 

yes.. and molten steel still molten 21 days after the collapses.

there are many things that don't fit the official story.   And shit like them finding intact passports of a couple terrorists just laying there... pretty much immediately. 
buiding 7 reported on TV as having fallen, with it in the live TV background.  Firefighters reporting explosions.  the list goes on.

then there is the pentagon... 

[Roswells, Art]

There was a thread someone started about a conspiracy having to do with the Colorado movie theater shooting and MV deleted it. I'm not much of a conspiracy person but I don't automatically shut it down. I prefer to listen to the theories and decide whether they hold any weight. Building 7, for example, puzzles me.

[norland2424]

There was a thread someone started about a conspiracy having to do with the Colorado movie theater shooting and MV deleted it. I'm not much of a conspiracy person but I don't automatically shut it down. I prefer to listen to the theories and decide whether they hold any weight. Building 7, for example, puzzles me.

the only thing that bugs me is when people claim there is " false flags" with actors pretending to be maimed etc, when its just easier to kill people then it would be to act it all out.

[=Schlyder=]

well I am naturally skeptical. What triggered my suspicion was the NIST's metallurgical errors in their explanations. 

[henge0stone]

yes. Little things that just don't wash with explanations... for example.

Molten metal seen in videos, pouring off the building... glowing orange.. dripping big time.
...was explained away by the commission to be molten aluminum from the planes.

Here's the kicker.... molten aluminum does not glow orange.  there is no glow or color change at all.  It stays silver in color in it's molten state.
How do I know this?  I am a journeyman welder.   here is video of the molten metal.. and one of molten aluminum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzdO0EPOGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI

Find me a more logical explanation then the planes that clearly rammed into the buildings and maybe you'll have a case. That doesn't look like molten steel, looks more like burning fuel dripping off the building.
I have no problem believing that there are things about 9/11 still hidden, like maybe the country of origin of the hijackers or stuff like that but the overall sequence of events makes more sense the way it was explained than any crazy theories about missiles or whatever.

I personally find it all very offensive to the victims to say that the people on Flight 93 didn't fight the hijackers when their family received phone calls. Are those all fake phone calls?

[GravitySucks]

There was a thread someone started about a conspiracy having to do with the Colorado movie theater shooting and MV deleted it. I'm not much of a conspiracy person but I don't automatically shut it down. I prefer to listen to the theories and decide whether they hold any weight. Building 7, for example, puzzles me.

You can go to Above Top Secret and discuss it to your heart's content.

[=Schlyder=]

I never offered any explanations for how the events took place.  I only point out things that don't fit with the explanation from the NIST. Like the molten aluminum thing. Things that pertain to the steel structure... and the fireproofing.  As well as being a journeyman welder, I also worked for a year as a Fireproofer... Applying fireproof coatings on structural steel for the oil industry. So am familiar with the types of products that were likely used for the TT.

[Dr. MD MD]

Find me a more logical explanation then the planes that clearly rammed into the buildings and maybe you'll have a case. That doesn't look like molten steel, looks more like burning fuel dripping off the building.

Wrong! Look at the video again. ALL the fuel is clearly consumed in the big fireball you see after impact. What? Did some of the fuel run away from the plane to be burned later?! Try harder! 

[=Schlyder=]

Wrong! Look at the video again. ALL the fuel is clearly consumed in the big fireball you see after impact. What? Did some of the fuel run away from the plane to be burned later?! Try harder! 

This^  plus any fuel left over and burning in the towers, does not burn at a hot enough temperature to create molten steel, which is clearly visible in video, and that was explained away as molten aluminum.. which is false.  So what created the extra heat to cause the extremely molten steel dripping from the buildings? 
Even if they use the explanation that the heat just weakened the structural steel... they can't account for the molten steel.

[littlechris]

You can go to Above Top Secret and discuss it to your heart's content.

I can't stand ATP's crappy page layout. I'm sure we have a conspiracy thread here. WTC 7 really makes one wonder.

[=Schlyder=]

there is an organization of 1000s of architects and engineers.. who are supported by survivors, and family of victims, who are trying to get to the truth.  Hopefully they will find it one day.   

[GravitySucks]

I can't stand ATP's crappy page layout. I'm sure we have a conspiracy thread here. WTC 7 really makes one wonder.

The ONLY thing I wonder about 9/11 is who shorted the United and American Airlines stock in the week leading up to 9/11. Follow the money. That is who financed it or had insider knowledge of it. I am sure that answer appears in the 28 classified pages of the 9/11 commission report.

You find that out, then you can tie up loose ends.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I can't stand ATP's crappy page layout. I'm sure we have a conspiracy thread here. WTC 7 really makes one wonder.

ATS had an incredible rise and fall. Before Obama that was an incredible site with brilliant people. Then they went all in on political woo woo and now it's beyond shitty.

[=Schlyder=]

The ONLY thing I wonder about 9/11 is who shorted the United and American Airlines stock in the week leading up to 9/11. Follow the money. That is who financed it or had insider knowledge of it. I am sure that answer appears in the 28 classified pages of the 9/11 commission report.

You find that out, then you can tie up loose ends.

yes.. and who benefitted by the SEC files being destroyed in bldg. 7

[Faustina]

I hope that Republican Satirist calls again next Friday.  It would be great if Heather left him on longer this time, so to give more people a chance to grill him:  the 1-2 who did didn't give it to him hard enough, imo.

[aldousburbank]

yes.. and who benefitted by the SEC files being destroyed in bldg. 7

[VtaGeezer]

The ONLY thing I wonder about 9/11 is who shorted the United and American Airlines stock in the week leading up to 9/11. Follow the money. That is who financed it or had insider knowledge of it. I am sure that answer appears in the 28 classified pages of the 9/11 commission report.

You find that out, then you can tie up loose ends.

+1.  But I doubt it was included in the classified part of  report either; too dangerous.

[Morgus]

I hope that Republican Satirist calls again next Friday.  It would be great if Heather left him on longer this time, so to give more people a chance to grill him:  the 1-2 who did didn't give it to him hard enough, imo.

Did the "Representative" April Fool's Day caller sound familiar to anyone?
To me he sounded like that classic prankster Bateman making an April Fool's day prank.