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20150911 - Art Bell, Open Lines - Live Chat Thread

Started by MV/Liberace!, September 11, 2015, 06:53:06 PM

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
I thought it strictly meant they simply "don't have a theism" i.e. "a belief in God".  But seems like you're saying it means they're "anti-theism" i.e. they're "against any belief in God".  I'm actually unsure on this myself so curious.

Where is the line crossed between an agnostic and an atheist?


zeebo

Quote from: Juan Cena on September 11, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
Would love to hear a show on pirates. Gotta be all kinds of lost pirate gold and pirate ghost ships and pirate ghost stories out there. Anybody got a good guest for a pirate show?

I agree, that wold be cool.  I vaguely remember a documentary onHistory or Discovery channel years ago that told the real story of pirates sans Hollywood glamorizing.  Maybe someone could try and find folks from that show, which I can't remember it's name, so really I don't think I'm helping sorry.

Kolchak

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
I thought it strictly meant they simply "don't have a theism" i.e. "a belief in God".  But seems like you're saying it means they're "anti-theism" i.e. they're "against any belief in God".  I'm actually unsure on this myself so curious.

He's playing with semantics. Your definition of atheist is correct. Without theism. But if an atheist accepted the evidence, they wouldn't be an atheist. I believe this was what Manx was saying (please correct me if I misconstrued you, Manx).

Manx

Quote from: Kolchak on September 11, 2015, 10:26:16 PM
Correct, because at that time that evidence was provided, and the evidence was accepted, that person would no longer be an atheist. But I think you knew what he meant.

No, because someone who changes their ideas on existence based what evidence they have personally examined and accepted is more akin to being a scientist.

Scientist and atheist are two different words, they are not even synonyms but I understand that people seem to have that idea


Mild Bill

Quote from: Oleus on September 11, 2015, 10:26:39 PM
RCH's show is looking like a technical and conversational marvel lately compared to some of this

Braaps!

popple

If you go on youtube there is a video of an alien in the window.

zeebo

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on September 11, 2015, 10:28:37 PM
Where is the line crossed between an agnostic and an atheist?

Right, I'm curious about this.  My understanding is that agnostic means you're just not sure, whereas athiests are absolutely sure (but still open to future evidence).


Quote from: popple on September 11, 2015, 10:24:22 PM
I got a planet x fever & the only prescription is more manhole covers!

Man-Hoooooooooooo-Li-ooooo

Mebee

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on September 11, 2015, 10:23:27 PM
I thought she mysteriously disappeared years ago after she had been completely debunked.

She withdrew to her website and a "ning" site where she can control the dialog, but she is still active there.

http://poleshift.ning.com/


Quote from: brig on September 11, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
Yes.

I assure you, if Jonathan Cahn was a guest, he would make for a GREAT Art Bell
show.  His two books are pretty spectacular and dramatic, and would make for
great debate.  Seriously, look him up on youtube.  Here, lemme find one...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5LVM7asBg


popple

*checks manhole cover sales*

I'm gonna wormhole art and tell him to open an 'I'm under a manhole cover' line.

Manx

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2015, 10:26:51 PM
I thought it strictly meant they simply "don't have a theism" i.e. "a belief in God".  But seems like you're saying it means they're "anti-theism" i.e. they're "against any belief in God".  I'm actually unsure on this myself so curious.

Simply look up the word in a dictionary, including the a- prefix and the -ism suffix, it's what I have done myself to clear up what that means because I get different answers when I ask an atheist what that means

zeebo

Quote from: Kolchak on September 11, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
He's playing with semantics. Your definition of atheist is correct. Without theism....

Right I guess the subtle difference is having "no belief" vs. having "disbelief".

WOTR

Quote from: albrecht on September 11, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
F*ckin meth heads stealing those things, along with everything else, even nailed down. I can't imagine how much they can make and where they get the energy...oh wait. I got where they got the energy.
Actually, I need to cut one apart for a work project and cannot cut apart the one that belongs to the city- so I bought one for myself.

albrecht

Quote from: zeebo on September 11, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Right, I'm curious about this.  My understanding is that agnostic means you're just not sure, whereas athiests are absolutely sure (but still open to future evidence).
What are the ones who won't believe even if evidence? Of course, "evidence" is also a rabbit-hole to go down....



Herbn-Legend

Watch a hour after the head tranzplant they will announce HE DIED DO TO COMPLICATIONZ TO A NEW BODY😝😱😨

Quote from: WOTR on September 11, 2015, 10:31:46 PM
Actually, I need to cut one apart for a work project and cannot cut apart the one that belongs to the city- so I bought one for myself.

Can anyone buy one?

Noorynoid

Quote from: coaster on September 11, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
I may come off as an asshole here, but I think open lines were better in the 90's.

Drugs man, better drugs back then...yeah..

albrecht

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on September 11, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
I wormholed Art.  I feel so dirty.
It is ok now! Get over your hang-ups. You can even marry doing it these days... ;)


zeebo

Quote from: albrecht on September 11, 2015, 10:31:56 PM
... Of course, "evidence" is also a rabbit-hole to go down....

After tonite apparently youtube vids qualify ...  :D

Herbn-Legend

Quote from: Herbn-Legend on September 11, 2015, 10:32:38 PM
Watch a hour after the head tranzplant they will announce HE DIED DO TO COMPLICATIONZ TO A NEW BODY😝😱😨
i wil wage 100,000 that he dont take evn a breath.

ZomZom

Does anyone else think that Leo sounds like audio copy-pasta?

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