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20150728 - Richard Dolan - UFOs - Live Chat Thread

Started by MV/Liberace!, July 28, 2015, 08:57:28 PM

Luna

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 28, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
Actually there are a few good books about dogs.

I recommend



however , it is not a horror novel that is generally the author's forte.
That was one of my favorite movies growing up. It always made me tear up. Thanks for reminding me to check out the book!

Steven.G

Now that sounds like a fun time, army invading Area 51

Claudius

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 28, 2015, 10:47:01 PM
People tend to think that people that work for government agencies aren't humans and a mythos develops that doesn't really reflect reality. Hoagland goes after NASA all the time, for some god forsaken reason, but the reality at NASA is not what he spews. Yet people believe him.
Well duh, we are all members of the NWO!

Quote from: Steven.G on July 28, 2015, 10:39:57 PM
My coworkers who listen with me mentioned they wanted to try Arctic chaga. I then referenced that these ads are like jedi mind tricks and if you were weak minded you would want to purchase the goods.

People with cancer will try anything to ease the pain. I can't say I blame them.


Sean92008

Quote from: Claudius on July 28, 2015, 10:48:04 PM
Well duh, we are all members of the NWO!

First thing I thought when I saw that...

NWA.

RIP E.

flimflam384

I've seen some crazy stuff up in the sky but I don't "buy into" anything, knowing that we got the technology to put all sorts of crazy stuff up in the sky now...  If I saw some UFO's up there, I'd be like "ooh, look what they can do with drones now!".

It's going to take some serious smoking gun evidence for me to believe humanity is being visited by anything other than humanity.  Though with all the crazy new stuff they're finding up on that comet with Rosetta, and with New Horizons, it's not impossible that this solar system may have created other intelligent life (after all, dolphins exist...) so anything is possible.

That said, I like to hear every fringe voice because sometimes the real truth comes from the fringes.  People were still refining Newton's model of gravity when Einstein was hammering out Relativity.  And it is certainly possible that the universe is FULL of life.  I just tend to believe that life out there is subject to the same Relativistic laws we are, and have to surpass the challenges we face before even having the faintest CHANCE of circumventing C or even creating a far-sighted generational ship.

And sometimes, even a charlatan knows some things.

My POV may seem self-contradictory in parts, but it's not.  It's complicated.  I expect that surprises still await us.


Quote from: trostol on July 28, 2015, 10:44:58 PM
Oxygene 4

A friend of mine back in the 80's got me into his music.  I love all of his stuff.

ChandlersDad

Quote from: mortalwombat on July 28, 2015, 10:43:31 PM
what exactly did Richard Dolan say about CNN? appx 5 minutes ago. thx

He said it was secretly the voice of the government. But he failed to mention that Fox News is the voice of the Republican Tea Party.

Eugene M Rosa

Its funny that Dolan was sooooooo worried about the health of this "deathbed confession" guy.... the guy is still ALIVE ALMOST 4YRS LATER!!!!!!! JUST MORE BS FROM GOOD OLE DICK DOLAN

nbirnes

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 28, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
A friend of mine back in the 80's got me into his music.  I love all of his stuff.

Thanks! It's fun to look up new music. Must visit the bumper thread.

SaucyRossy

Quote from: VoteQuimby on July 28, 2015, 10:31:21 PM
The amount of money needed for marketing to rope in suckers for such a stupid concept... How much money could they have made really?

A fuckton.

This was found on google and is citing a Mexican newspaper article. So it's all estimates.

"A recent news article from Mexico states that there were over 7,000 people in attendance at the event and another 2,500,000 paid the $20 to view the live stream! That is well over $50 million! If these figures are accurate, this is not an insignificant amount of money."

trostol

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 28, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
A friend of mine back in the 80's got me into his music.  I love all of his stuff.

a few years ago i worked in a science educational store...the boss played him often..thats how i got into him lol

AppealPlay

Quote from: Eugene M Rosa on July 28, 2015, 10:49:49 PM
Its funny that Dolan was sooooooo worried about the health of this "deathbed confession" guy.... the guy is still ALIVE ALMOST 4YRS LATER!!!!!!! JUST MORE BS FROM GOOD OLE DICK DOLAN

To be fair I've seen old folks hold on years longer than anyone thought.  My grandmother lived 6 years longer than she should have with the type of cancer she had.

Claudius

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 28, 2015, 10:49:29 PM
*secret handshake*
It's too hot in the Alps to go skiing this time of the year..

Quote from: Eugene M Rosa on July 28, 2015, 10:49:49 PM
Its funny that Dolan was sooooooo worried about the health of this "deathbed confession" guy.... the guy is still ALIVE ALMOST 4YRS LATER!!!!!!! JUST MORE BS FROM GOOD OLE DICK DOLAN

Yes, Dolan is a huckster in ever sense. I wonder if he would have been on if they did not have to replace a guest within 24 hours. Dolan is a good talker so I will give him that, he is a decent interview.

Quote from: Eugene M Rosa on July 28, 2015, 10:49:49 PM
Its funny that Dolan was sooooooo worried about the health of this "deathbed confession" guy.... the guy is still ALIVE ALMOST 4YRS LATER!!!!!!! JUST MORE BS FROM GOOD OLE DICK DOLAN

Who was he talking about?? Who was the person who supposedly said that on their deathbed? Missed that. Smells like BS.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Claudius on July 28, 2015, 10:51:15 PM
It's too hot in the Alps to go skiing this time of the year..

The bird is in the oven.

Sean92008

Quote from: nooryisawesome on July 28, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
People with cancer will try anything to ease the pain. I can't say I blame them.

Dave will sell anything to people who are worried about it or have a nasty disease... 

Of course, to be fair, Art used to advertise the water-softening magnets.  The guy that owned that company got into trouble with the law.

steelbot

Explication? so Lazaar was a better liar lol :)

But there are many places underground for the military of course, that's like standing on Everest saying, this is the tallest mountain! NO SHIT Capt. Obvious!

coaster

Quote from: SaucyRossy on July 28, 2015, 10:50:58 PM
A fuckton.

This was found on google and is citing a Mexican newspaper article. So it's all estimates.

"A recent news article from Mexico states that there were over 7,000 people in attendance at the event and another 2,500,000 paid the $20 to view the live stream! That is well over $50 million! If these figures are accurate, this is not an insignificant amount of money."
Wow.

Claudius

Quote from: AppealPlay on July 28, 2015, 10:51:02 PM
To be fair I've seen old folks hold on years longer than anyone thought.  My grandmother lived 6 years longer than she should have with the type of cancer she had.
Though if you listen to the "interview" the old dude sounds like someone jammed gravel down his throat, like he had at best 10 minutes left alive. I'm actually a bit skeptical if the guy is even ill, and on his deathbed.

sugarhill

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 28, 2015, 10:49:32 PM
A friend of mine back in the 80's got me into his music.  I love all of his stuff.

Zoolook was my intro.. his back catalog is tremendous to dig thru!

Quote from: Luna on July 28, 2015, 10:47:48 PM
That was one of my favorite movies growing up. It always made me tear up. Thanks for reminding me to check out the book!

I know.  I really love the total body of work by James Herbert.  He wrote some great horror novels like The Spear and The Rats but also wrote some touching novels like Fluke and another favorite of mine, The Magic Cottage.  He just passed away a year or so ago.  He wrote several great ghost story novels like Haunted and The Secret of Crickley Hall.  He will be missed.

ChandlersDad

Quote from: flimflam384 on July 28, 2015, 10:49:19 PM
I've seen some crazy stuff up in the sky but I don't "buy into" anything, knowing that we got the technology to put all sorts of crazy stuff up in the sky now...  If I saw some UFO's up there, I'd be like "ooh, look what they can do with drones now!".

It's going to take some serious smoking gun evidence for me to believe humanity is being visited by anything other than humanity.  Though with all the crazy new stuff they're finding up on that comet with Rosetta, and with New Horizons, it's not impossible that this solar system may have created other intelligent life (after all, dolphins exist...) so anything is possible.

That said, I like to hear every fringe voice because sometimes the real truth comes from the fringes.  People were still refining Newton's model of gravity when Einstein was hammering out Relativity.  And it is certainly possible that the universe is FULL of life.  I just tend to believe that life out there is subject to the same Relativistic laws we are, and have to surpass the challenges we face before even having the faintest CHANCE of circumventing C or even creating a far-sighted generational ship.

And sometimes, even a charlatan knows some things.

My POV may seem self-contradictory in parts, but it's not.  It's complicated.  I expect that surprises still await us.

I believe that the phenomena is very real. However, the 1950's B Movie "aliens from another planet" explanation just doesn't seem true. When you study this deeply, you find out that people who see UFOs often also have other paranormal experiences such as poltergeist activity in their homes, seeing shadow people, elves, and many other bizarre things. I know that Stanton Friedman is a die-hard nuts & bolts guy who believes this is aliens from another planet. But I tend to support the TRICKSTER theory. This phenomena may originate from Earth itself. Maybe it changes shape with the times. In the Middle Ages, people claimed to see battles over their heads, and angels with wings flying overhead. Now we see disks and triangles.

zeebo

Quote from: Coz on July 28, 2015, 10:39:26 PM
AAC stream... haven't checked shortwave yet. Went to bed early thinking I'd listen to the replay... woke up :)

Yep I'm likewise doing AAC stream (on Foobar2000).  It really sounds great.  I do look forward to some classic shortwave ambience at some point though.   ;)

SaucyRossy

Quote from: coaster on July 28, 2015, 10:52:19 PM
Wow.

Yeah, and being in Mexico it's much easier for them to cook the books and claim they made no money and there are little to no options for people to get refunds thru legal means.


Pretty fng brilliant, sort of a super villain level con.


mortalwombat

s.w.i.m. is glad that s.w.i.m. did not mishear.

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