Would that we had a leader like this

[Quick Karl]

"In Russia, you have to live the Russian way. Any minority from any part of the world, if they want to live in Russia, to work and to eat in Russia, should speak Russian and respect Russian laws.

If they prefer Sharia Law and living the Muslim way, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russian does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.

We will not tolerate disrespect to our Russian culture. We need not to learn how to commit state suicide, like in America, England, Netherlands or France, if we want to survive as a nation. Muslims are occupying these countries, and Russia will not go the same way.

Russian laws and tradition are not compatible with lack of culture or primitive Sharia customs. If the Sharia legislators think that new laws are necessary, they should bear Russian national interests in mind, and remember clearly that the Muslim minorities are not Russian." -Vladimir Putin-

Instead, we have abject assholes.

I think I am going to learn to speak Russian...

[albrecht]

"In Russia, you have to live the Russian way. Any minority from any part of the world, if they want to live in Russia, to work and to eat in Russia, should speak Russian and respect Russian laws.

If they prefer Sharia Law and living the Muslim way, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russian does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.

We will not tolerate disrespect to our Russian culture. We need not to learn how to commit state suicide, like in America, England, Netherlands or France, if we want to survive as a nation. Muslims are occupying these countries, and Russia will not go the same way.

Russian laws and tradition are not compatible with lack of culture or primitive Sharia customs. If the Sharia legislators think that new laws are necessary, they should bear Russian national interests in mind, and remember clearly that the Muslim minorities are not Russian." -Vladimir Putin-

Instead, we have abject assholes.

I think I am going to learn to speak Russian...

We had this attitude when our country was strong and more peaceful, especially internally. Even our great "progressive" Teddy Roosevelt would agree with this attitude as would most of our former leaders. Ones who loved the country and its people, appreciated Western culture and civilization, understood (and liked)  or our history and Founding Fathers, respected God, and at least gave a damn about the country or its people.

I have some problems with Vladimir but clearly, for his country at least, he is a better leader than this character Obama. Can you imagine Obama giving a speech in support of the USA? Especially one one that was believable or wasn't "nuanced" to show tolerance and acceptance of radical Islam, illegals, rioters, foreigners, etc?

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

As far as I know, the U.S. doesn't prohibit its citizens from moving there.  The standard of living is considerably lower than here, and people die about twenty years younger on the average, but hey, Putin's a tough guy so that makes up for it.  Wot a country!

[albrecht]

As far as I know, the U.S. doesn't prohibit its citizens from moving there.  The standard of living is considerably lower than here, and people die about twenty years younger on the average, but hey, Putin's a tough guy so that makes up for it.  Wot a country!

Actually it does, in a way. For one the IRS will still demand you pay income taxes on any income (wages or investment) you earn in foreign countries- even if you are living, working, and residing there (one of the ONLY countries in the world that does so,) you also will need to file various forms per FATCA (making it harder and harder for an American to even open a current or investment account overseas,) technically it is also a crime to give up citizenship for tax-purposes, arguably there are also some capital controls already in place here (though called other things, buried in laws like in H.R. 2487,) and, lastly,  there is the "exit tax" (currently IRC 877A.)

But why should US citizens be forced to leave their country just to make room for Muslims, illegal aliens, or foreigners of every type? Why shouldn't a country be allowed to have a border? Or vet people who move here? What is wrong with making emigrants abide by our laws, customs, and language? I've lived in several countries, and I never demanded the right to vote, that they print their manuals in English, or that they should change their laws, society, customs, or religions to "accommodate" me.

Or why should US citizens accept having politicians, or at least  President, who don't like the country, or hold animosity towards it (at least as it is and too many of the citizens?) Why should we accept policies that favor immigrants, even illegals, over that of citizens- and even veterans? Why should an immigrant, even an illegal, get a cheap tuition to a school than a US citizen? Why should WE have to give up our civil rights and way-of-life to abide Muslims and their threats that they will bomb or shoot us up? Is there even such a THING as a country if it doesn't have a border? Certainly we aren't a nation- because we share no common values, religion, or ancestry anymore, if we ever did- but at least can't we have a COUNTRY?

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Actually it does, in a way. For one the IRS will still demand you pay income taxes on any income (wages or investment) you earn in foreign countries- even if you are living, working, and residing there (one of the ONLY countries in the world that does so,) you also will need to file various forms per FATCA (making it harder and harder for an American to even open a current or investment account overseas,) technically it is also a crime to give up citizenship for tax-purposes, arguably there are also some capital controls already in place here (though called other things, buried in laws like in H.R. 2487,) and, lastly,  there is the "exit tax" (currently IRC 877A.)

But why should US citizens be forced to leave their country just to make room for Muslims, illegal aliens, or foreigners of every type? Why shouldn't a country be allowed to have a border? Or vet people who move here? What is wrong with making emigrants abide by our laws, customs, and language? I've lived in several countries, and I never demanded the right to vote, that they print their manuals in English, or that they should change their laws, society, customs, or religions to "accommodate" me.

Or why should US citizens accept having politicians, or at least  President, who don't like the country, or hold animosity towards it (at least as it is and too many of the citizens?) Why should we accept policies that favor immigrants, even illegals, over that of citizens- and even veterans? Why should an immigrant, even an illegal, get a cheap tuition to a school than a US citizen? Why should WE have to give up our civil rights and way-of-life to abide Muslims or threats that they will bomb or shoot us up? Is there even such a THING as a country if it doesn't have a border? Certainly we aren't a nation, because we share no common values, religion, or ancestry but at least can't we have a COUNTRY?

All I meant is that anyone who doesn't like it here can move to Russia if they think it would be an improvement.

[albrecht]

All I meant is that anyone who doesn't like it here can move to Russia if they think it would be an improvement.

I know, but I like to rant as our country swirls around the drain. Also, it is not a simple as you think with the tax and other financial consequences (both here and there) (unless you are someone like Snowden or there is a political reason.) Actually Russian, like most countries, actually vet their immigrants (and even for a tourist visa) but especially to move or work there. Most countries aren't like the US in that they try to defend their country's borders and ensure that any immigration is a positive.

And Americans shouldn't be forced to move (even internally to gated communities, nicer States, etc) just to accommodate foreigners.

[Quick Karl]

All I meant is that anyone who doesn't like it here can move to Russia if they think it would be an improvement.

I have a better idea - ship everyone like you to Kenya - see how you like what you preach!

[Ruteger]

Sadly, the American People have received the government they deserve. What you must understand, is that this is a spiritual problem not a political one. Electing Donald Trump, Rand Paul, etc. will not solve our problems. Remember the GOP just got the biggest majority in Congress in the last 80 years?! What has that helped?! It's only gotten WORSE!

I've read this verse from the Bible since child-hood but only now does it make perfect sense:

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding." Proverbs 9:10

Once a nation removes The Lord from their understanding, something else will take His place. Yes, we now have a statue of satan (lowercase on purpose) being erected for display in Michigan, the WH lit with the homosexual rainbow colors, Boy Scouts accepting homosexual scout masters. UNBELIEVABLE.

Note what is happening in Europe. They are literally giving their countries and cultures to Islamic hordes! Willingly. This is utter insanity and cannot be explained by rational means. Why would they allow this? Because they have removed all traces of the Lord of Hosts from all parts of their society. God in His Judgement has given them over to another god - the ancient demon moon god of the Sumerians.

I am 51. I am so thankful to have grown-up in the 70s and 80s. That was when America was still America (relatively speaking). Such freedom back then, but not anymore. But, the music was the best!

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I have a better idea - ship everyone like you to Kenya - see how you like what you preach!

Are you kidding?!!  That place is such a hell hole, even Obama got out of there as soon as he could!

Seriously, though, I'm not being preachy, just saying that life under Putin ain't so peachy.  Given the choice, I think most U.S. citizens would choose to live here.

[Quick Karl]

Are you kidding?!!  That place is such a hell hole, even Obama got out of there as soon as he could!

Seriously, though, I'm not being preachy, just saying that life under Putin ain't so peachy.  Given the choice, I think most U.S. citizens would choose to live here.

With respect, I think you missed the point...

[Jackstar]

Given the choice, I think most U.S. citizens would choose to live here.

Here's what everyone needs to remember about "U.S. citizens"--it was not all that long ago, that they were all swept away by The Macarena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS3s_LE6WrI

[albrecht]

Here's what everyone needs to remember about "U.S. citizens"--it was not all that long ago, that they were all swept away by The Macarena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS3s_LE6WrI

Even better/funnier? Back when that Macarena was popular I was at a wedding of Mexican friend of mine and they played it at the party. I thought the song/dance was some kind of traditional Mexican deal. I totally missed that it was a US craze until months later, and still never understood why. The "Chicken Dance" or "Cotton-Eyed Joe" or even the Wave is so much better at mass events.

[Quick Karl]

Here's what everyone needs to remember about "U.S. citizens"--it was not all that long ago, that they were all swept away by The Macarena.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS3s_LE6WrI

Fucking nation of morons.

[NowhereInTime]

"In Russia, you have to live the Russian way. Any minority from any part of the world, if they want to live in Russia, to work and to eat in Russia, should speak Russian and respect Russian laws.

If they prefer Sharia Law and living the Muslim way, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russian does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.

We will not tolerate disrespect to our Russian culture. We need not to learn how to commit state suicide, like in America, England, Netherlands or France, if we want to survive as a nation. Muslims are occupying these countries, and Russia will not go the same way.

Russian laws and tradition are not compatible with lack of culture or primitive Sharia customs. If the Sharia legislators think that new laws are necessary, they should bear Russian national interests in mind, and remember clearly that the Muslim minorities are not Russian." -Vladimir Putin-

Instead, we have abject assholes.

I wouldn't call you abject...

I think I am going to learn to speak Russian...

Traitor.

Go be Putin's bitch.

[Claudius]

I wouldn't call you abject...

Traitor.

Go be Putin's bitch.

Yeah if only we had a leader that had his political opposition killed on near daily basis, that said totally incorrect things internally to get the vote of the uneducated peasants of Russia, and externally pretended like he was really fair and nice. And supported paramilitary forces in a nearby democracy in order to slowly annex land you want. Yeah I agree that would be nice.

Oh wait I forgot the best feature of Putin, to also completely crash the economy through a mixture of corruption, and outrage from the Western world.

[West of the Rockies]

Damnit, Claudius, must you bring facts to every damn discussion?

I think Putin is an effective head of state... In the way that Tiberius was:  cruel and corrupt but commanding.

[Claudius]

Damnit, Claudius, must you bring facts to every damn discussion?

I think Putin is an effective head of state... In the way that Tiberius was:  cruel and corrupt but commanding.

I have to take exception to your description of Tiberius ( second Princeps of the Roman Empire for those of you who don't know). Tiberius as Suetonius described him was a reluctant leader, it was clearly not the position he wanted. His cruelty and corruption has borne by the Praetorian Prefect Sejanus who lied to Tiberius and scared him into what was essentially self imposed house arrest. The prescriptions under Sejanus were quite brutal and once Tiberius was convinced that Sejanus was actually ruling and planned on overthrowing Tiberius he had him killed. A bloodbath did ensue after that but most of the tyranny of Tiberius was from his second in command. But between his poor control, his having a harlot of young boys and girls the Roman people hated him. Hence the phrase, 'to the Tiber with Tiberius!'

[Quick Karl]

Yeah if only we had a leader that had his political opposition killed on near daily basis, that said totally incorrect things internally to get the vote of the uneducated peasants of Russia, and externally pretended like he was really fair and nice. And supported paramilitary forces in a nearby democracy in order to slowly annex land you want. Yeah I agree that would be nice.

Oh wait I forgot the best feature of Putin, to also completely crash the economy through a mixture of corruption, and outrage from the Western world.

You just described Obama.

[Claudius]

You just described Obama.

Somehow I just knew you would say that. Yeah because Republicans are being killed all the time, Glenn Beck was killed by a "mugger", and Rush has fled the country. Obama is out there pandering to anti-intellectuals like yourself and is funding Canadian separatists. And unlike the fantasy world you are currently in the economy is actually doing quite well at the moment.

[Yorkshire pud]

Somehow I just knew you would say that. Yeah because Republicans are being killed all the time, Glenn Beck was killed by a "mugger", and Rush has fled the country. Obama is out there pandering to anti-intellectuals like yourself and is funding Canadian separatists. And unlike the fantasy world you are currently in the economy is actually doing quite well at the moment.

Look; I'm only looking in on this, but I'm not sure what you posted is entirely correct. I say not entirely because I think you're right about QK being anti intellectual, something he appears to aspire to and fulfills in to the max.

Didn't Obama have the first born killed too, but only those who were born on every third wednesday? It's worthwhile pointing out that the ongoing inquest into Livinenko, who was posoned by two of Putin's goons, in London, with polonium; not something readily available from the local pharmacy.Even on prescription. Yep, Putin would love to have Qunt Karl as his bitch, they have much in common; although they might not have a meeting of the minds with misogyny.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19647226

[Who]

Instead, we have abject assholes.

Are you talking about Congress or my relatives on the west coast?

[136 or 142]

"In Russia, you have to live the Russian way. Any minority from any part of the world, if they want to live in Russia, to work and to eat in Russia, should speak Russian and respect Russian laws.

If they prefer Sharia Law and living the Muslim way, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russian does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.

We will not tolerate disrespect to our Russian culture. We need not to learn how to commit state suicide, like in America, England, Netherlands or France, if we want to survive as a nation. Muslims are occupying these countries, and Russia will not go the same way.

Russian laws and tradition are not compatible with lack of culture or primitive Sharia customs. If the Sharia legislators think that new laws are necessary, they should bear Russian national interests in mind, and remember clearly that the Muslim minorities are not Russian." -Vladimir Putin-

Instead, we have abject assholes.

I think I am going to learn to speak Russian...

If you're planning to move to Russia, I can only encourage you.  Don't let the door...

[albrecht]

Look; I'm only looking in on this, but I'm not sure what you posted is entirely correct. I say not entirely because I think you're right about QK being anti intellectual, something he appears to aspire to and fulfills in to the max.

Didn't Obama have the first born killed too, but only those who were born on every third wednesday? It's worthwhile pointing out that the ongoing inquest into Livinenko, who was posoned by two of Putin's goons, in London, with polonium; not something readily available from the local pharmacy.Even on prescription. Yep, Putin would love to have Qunt Karl as his bitch, they have much in common; although they might not have a meeting of the minds with misogyny.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19647226

Your friendly, usually Muslim, immigrants have killed far more people than Putin has in the UK. As have your IRA terrorist types, though you probably like them due to their leftist political bent. Not to defend Putin (or Karl) but look at actual numbers, not one-offs. Heck, arguably your various traitors, often homosexual and highly educated and decorated (heck Philby was a OBE!) caused more deaths than even the old Soviets, or Putin, with their machinations with ricin or radioactive compounds.


ps: having said that, the story about the murder(s) is pretty interesting. I can understand why the neo-cons here and your Foreign Office seek the new Cold War. Cool intrigue and stories! The whole dirty arabs and terrorism crap makes money.... but is boring. It is MTV, reality-crap, Ch4 (or worse,) style. Sure some beheadings, sure some bombs, random mayhem in our towns- fun for the masses- but it is not intellectually stimulating at all. Crazy Muslim; kill people. Retaliate with a drone, kill people, often random or wrong people, but the less of them the better. Then be sorry, wring-hands, and allow more Muslims into our countries. Crazy Muslim, now here, kill people. Rinse, repeat. Boring.

[Jackstar]

Rinse, repeat. Boring.

https://www.google.com/search?q=depleted+uranium+birth+defects+middle+east+evidence&biw=1920&bih=939&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMItrnDn-KYxwIVVTGICh3x7wEg

Should be enough to liven up any discussion. Set "Safe Search" to off. Volunteers are going to rush to the border pretty quick when Muslims with three eyes and six arms dual wielding flamethrowers start popping up.

Give it time. Viva la atom!

[Yorkshire pud]

Your friendly, usually Muslim, immigrants have killed far more people than Putin has in the UK.

And that's Putin's defence? "They're worse so I'm an angel in comparison"? Can I remind you Putin is an 'elected' head of a sovereign nation. The barabaric primitives who murder anyone who they deem as either not Muslim 'enough' or at all are accountable only to themselves.
Are you serious?

As have your IRA terrorist types, though you probably like them due to their leftist political bent. Not to defend Putin (or Karl) but look at actual numbers, not one-offs. Heck, arguably your various traitors, often homosexual and highly educated and decorated (heck Philby was a OBE!) caused more deaths than even the old Soviets, or Putin, with their machinations with ricin or radioactive compounds.

The IRA were/are not leftists! I can disavow you of that. They were/are a terrorist outfit who use religion (as do the Protestant opponents) as a crutch and perverse justification to murder indiscriminately. Religion once again being the catalyst; quelle surprise!

ps: having said that, the story about the murder(s) is pretty interesting. I can understand why the neo-cons here and your Foreign Office seek the new Cold War. Cool intrigue and stories! The whole dirty arabs and terrorism crap makes money.... but is boring. It is MTV, reality-crap, Ch4 (or worse,) style. Sure some beheadings, sure some bombs, random mayhem in our towns- fun for the masses- but it is not intellectually stimulating at all. Crazy Muslim; kill people. Retaliate with a drone, kill people, often random or wrong people, but the less of them the better. Then be sorry, wring-hands, and allow more Muslims into our countries. Crazy Muslim, now here, kill people. Rinse, repeat. Boring.

Not really; One is a state sponsored assassination of an opponent of the leader of a sovereign state, and the other is the actions of primitive assholes who don't broach any...

Wait one...

Yeah, they are similar after all. QK is a primitive terrorist sympathiser? I see your point.

[albrecht]

The IRA were/are not leftists! I can disavow you of that. They were/are a terrorist outfit who use religion (as do the Protestant opponents) as a crutch and perverse justification to murder indiscriminately. Religion once again being the catalyst; quelle surprise!

There was a major split in the various terrorist organizations but even the Provos were left-of-center but more traditionally Republic after the split over tactics the 'original' IRA, OIRA, was blatantly Marxist and their political wing, Sinn Féin, was/is expressly called a "workers party."

[Jackstar]

Can I remind you Putin is an 'elected' head of a sovereign nation.

In Sovjet Russia, must see television sees you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30oMuEo4eDw

[NowhereInTime]

So you right wing spank-o-nauts still crave the taste of Shirtless Vlad's "leadership"?

"Would that we had a leader like this":

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-10/russian-economy-shrinks-4-6-as-oil-slump-risks-deeper-recession

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/11/russias-economy-is-in-a-pit-according-to-economists.html

Bitch, please.  You had a leader like this: