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The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

Started by cosmic hobo, June 24, 2015, 08:00:52 PM


pate

I am getting from my limited scan of this thread that Hoax is either all about the long-con of the Brun, or the short bern of the Hiliar.

Some sort of communist in-fighting is really all I get?

and Trump is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlWgF8dqneg

Ciardelo

Quote from: zeebo on May 11, 2016, 12:28:34 AM
He was comparing his campaign to the rise of fascism in the 30's just recently
Yessir



SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:29:56 AM
Hillary is up like 300 in pledged delegates. They don't really matter. Hillary's popular vote is like 3 million more than Sanders.

I'm not really interested in the tactics. Hillary is just doing what she and her husband always did: game the system. The fact is Sanders is a far more honest person, though I disagree with him politically. And he does have tons of support. Whether he would win in a fair situation or not is up to the primary voters. But the idea that superdelegates exist is abhorrent to me. The left is supposed to be about equality, yet in the US it gives certain people aristocratic weight solely because they've managed to bullshit their way into a political career.

zeebo

Quote from: Ciardelo on May 11, 2016, 12:30:23 AM
I think that would be nice, but there is too much power in keeping things the same. What Amerca really needs is a real third party, but niether one of the big two will let that happen.

Yep they won't even let the others talk.  You can't even get a debate where you hear about third-party views. 

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on May 11, 2016, 12:33:29 AM
I'm not really interested in the tactics. Hillary is just doing what she and her husband always did: game the system. The fact is Sanders is a far more honest person, though I disagree with him politically. And he does have tons of support. Whether he would win in a fair situation or not is up to the primary voters. But the idea that superdelegates exist is abhorrent to me. The left is supposed to be about equality, yet in the US it gives certain people aristocratic weight solely because they've managed to bullshit their way into a political career.

The Republicans wished they had super delegates right about now. :)

Ciardelo

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:30:47 AM
And it was Democrats that gave them civil rights in the 1960s. Party's change and realign. Dixiecrats became Republicans.
lol. wow. revisionist history.



Juan Cena

Quote from: norland2424 on May 11, 2016, 12:33:16 AM
he said that Bernie " smashed" Hillary lol

Behind Bill's back?

Kind of an awkward to be doing that kinda thing, Hil.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:34:39 AM
The Republicans wished they had super delegates right about now. :)

I agree lol. But they don't.

zeebo

I heard someone suggest Hil might pick Bernsie for V.P.  Is that really out there as an idea?

comaphobe

Quote from: norland2424 on May 11, 2016, 12:33:16 AM
he said that Bernie " smashed" Hillary lol

i wonder what/how many hole(s) were used(?)

Ciardelo

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:35:42 AM
And what exactly is revisionist about this?
Your Democrats fought the civil rights. But I want to keep this civil, so let's listen to the show, yes?

Quote from: zeebo on May 11, 2016, 12:36:30 AM
I heard someone suggest Hil might pick Bernsie for V.P.  Is that really out there as an idea?

It'll probably be Julian Castro or Thomas Perez. Slight chance for Tim Kaine. Sherrod Brown would be an obvious choice but you don't want Kasich to appoint a Republican to the Senate and lose out that seat.

Ciardelo

Who is this new guest? I hear him on this show a lot.


Quote from: Ciardelo on May 11, 2016, 12:37:01 AM
Your Democrats fought the civil rights. But I want to keep this civil, so let's listen to the show, yes?

Dixiecrats that became Republicans after the civil acts rights act signed by the Democrat Johnson in 64.

Ciardelo

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:39:25 AM
Dixiecrats that became Republicans after the civil acts rights act signed by the Democrat Johnson in 64.
lol OK, you win, I'm just all fucked in the head.


Juan Cena

Quote from: zeebo on May 11, 2016, 12:36:30 AM
I heard someone suggest Hil might pick Bernsie for V.P.  Is that really out there as an idea?

Yeah. I think it will be.

I'm thinking Hil will pick someone from one of the big swing states she'll need to win the election.

Ciardelo

lol Hoagy making up numbers. GREAT political analysis Dick!

zeebo

Quote from: Darth Sandra on May 11, 2016, 12:38:11 AM
It'll probably be Julian Castro or Thomas Perez. Slight chance for Tim Kaine. Sherrod Brown would be an obvious choice but you don't want Kasich to appoint a Republican to the Senate and lose out that seat.

I'd also heard Elizabeth Warren maybe.  KInda makes sense, as Hil could remain lofty while letting Liz rage-tweet Trump.


trostol

i hope you all realize you fell into Hoagies trap..he has you now talking about politics

Juan Cena

Quote from: Ciardelo on May 11, 2016, 12:42:12 AM
lol Hoagy making up numbers. GREAT political analysis Dick!

Arizona has 19.5 electoral votes!

norland2424

Quote from: trostol on May 11, 2016, 12:42:59 AM
i hope you all realize you fell into Hoagies trap..he has you now talking about politics

that they did lol

Ciardelo

Quote from: trostol on May 11, 2016, 12:42:59 AM
i hope you all realize you fell into Hoagies trap..he has you now talking about politics
Fuck you  :P He's a wily, wily man.

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