The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

[cheesemonkey]

I'm on board man. If for no other good reason than "why the f**k is it there when it's not supposed to be".
It may or may not have affected me or my own, but I don't care for stuff being added to the water supply because some clowns in white coats insist it's the way to go.

[Meister_000]

. . .  your post is pretty good advice was Brilliant!

FIFY
Dude, I'm 60 years old and have been exposed to the natural foods scene and its common topics since the early 1970s. The fluorine story is not news to me, and I agree with you that it's horrible shit. Nevertheless, Manx's predicament needn't be made any worse than it is by some red herring "cause" of his troubles. K?

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

FIFY
Dude, I'm 60 years old and have been exposed to the natural foods scene and its common topics since the early 1970s. The fluorine story is not news to me, and I agree with you that it's horrible shit. Nevertheless, Manx's predicament needn't be made any worse than it is by some red herring "cause" of his troubles. K?

I'm going to have to agree to disagree on the ' "red herring" cause '. It's real easy to walk down the aisle in the store and find the toothpaste without fluoride and if you're lucky, it will contain Xilitol, which rebuilds tooth enamel. That's 2-3 times a day you won't be adding poison to your body. Please don't write it off as if it means nothing. I'll guarantee that when your system is loaded down with toxins, it is much more difficult to visualize than when your system is relatively clean. As was stated before, Manx never learned how to do it in the first place, which is a shame. Anything that he can do to help himself learn these abilities should be put into effect. It sounds to me like he's tried and is having tremendous difficulty with this.

[Meister_000]

I'm going to have to agree to disagree on the ' "red herring" cause '. It's real easy to walk down the aisle in the store and find the toothpaste without fluoride and if you're lucky, it will contain Xilitol, which rebuilds tooth enamel. That's 2-3 times a day you won't be adding poison to your body. Please don't write it off as if it means nothing. I'll guarantee that when your system is loaded down with toxins, it is much more difficult to visualize than when your system is relatively clean. As was stated before, Manx never learned how to do it in the first place, which is a shame. Anything that he can do to help himself learn these abilities should be put into effect. It sounds to me like he's tried and is having tremendous difficulty with this.

I'm afraid the extent of Manx's "help" to-date has been via the "works" of a few new-age idiot "visualization"-coach charletons.  Hopefully "the way" and "straight-path" is now at hand.

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I'm afraid the extent of Manx's "help" to-date has been via the "works" of a few new-age idiot "visualization"-coach charletons.  Hopefully "the way" and "straight-path" is now at hand.

[Meister_000]

Alrighty then. Peace.

[cheesemonkey]

Alrighty then. Peace.

My Word.
I certainly hope you guys aren't on any US time zone. You'll be burnt out by now if so...

[Meister_000]

My Word.
I certainly hope you guys aren't on any US time zone. You'll be burnt out by now if so...

There'd be no civilization without the 3rd shifters!  Someone's gotta do the cleaning-up and re-stocking!

[cheesemonkey]

There'd be no civilization without the 3rd shifters!  Someone's gotta do the cleaning-up and re-stocking!

Crap. I kinda figured that when I asked... You got me.

[cheesemonkey]

There'd be no civilization without the 3rd shifters!  Someone's gotta do the cleaning-up and re-stocking!

So given that, and assuming you divulge into both Bell and Hoags, what do you prefer (or why these things!) ? Some insight perhaps.. I'm curious.

[Meister_000]

Crap. I kinda figured that when I asked... You got me.

Don't worry, I'm playing tricks with creative interpretation, or a couple different levels of interpretation. Late night is artist's and creatives time, simply because you have uninterupted "concentration" hence production during those hours -- and it is the real artists who "clean up" the shit left by the fools and replenish the provisions, "the food", maintain continuity-of-culture as well as advance the "craft" and thus at least try to keep civilization afloat.  Dig?

[Meister_000]

So given that, and assuming you divulge into both Bell and Hoags, what do you prefer (or why these things!) ? Some insight perhaps.. I'm curious.

To be honest it's mostly background noise and also "like the good old days" (Art Bell in the 1990's) nostalgia, a last in a lifetime reprise, a gift (to have Art back for a while). Most of the content, however, is and always was rubbish. These days actually, I listen to Coast and Art/RCH as a matter of duty. By that I mean, to try to keep tabs on who/what/where/when is most responsible for polluting the Spiritual waters. I listen to Catholic Radio for exactly the same reason. It's all rubbish, or 98% of it is.
Hope that helps.

[cheesemonkey]

To be honest it's mostly background noise and also "like the good old days" (Art Bell in the 1990's) nostalgia, a last in a lifetime reprise, a gift (to have Art back for a while). Most of the content, however, is and always was rubbish. These days actually, I listen to Coast and Art/RCH as a matter of duty. By that I mean, to try to keep tabs on who/when/when is responsible for polluting the Spiritual waters. I listen to Catholic Radio for exactly the same reason. It's all rubbish, or 98% of it is.
Hope that helps.

Yeah, interesting. I also listen to much talk radio, mostly "paranormal slant" type as background noise. I make software in my own time at home so I need some filler and this kind of thing makes more sense than anything else whilst I whittle away at my stuff.
Coast has become almost intolerable. I'm an insider but find myself sticking to other avenues such as art and hoags. George (when he's there) is a fools amusement park of the mind, so he has his charms.

[Meister_000]

Yeah, interesting. I also listen to much talk radio, mostly "paranormal slant" type as background noise. I make software in my own time at home so I need some filler and this kind of thing makes more sense than anything else whilst I whittle away at my stuff.
Coast has become almost intolerable. I'm an insider but find myself sticking to other avenues such as art and hoags. George (when he's there) is a fools amusement park of the mind, so he has his charms.

I can't count how many times I 've screamed at my radio over something Noory (aka "Dave" here at Bellgab) or one of his guests has said. He's a national disgrace! 

[cheesemonkey]

I can't count how many times I 've screamed at my radio over something Noory (aka "Dave" here at Bellgab) or one of his guests has said. He's a national disgrace! 

Right yes? however on another slant he's actually got the right attitude. It's all a matter of perspective I suppose. These things take discernment.

[GravitySucks]

How dare the two of you have an intelligent discussion on this thread.

[cheesemonkey]

How dare the two of you have an intelligent discussion on this thread.

*the shame* 

[cheesemonkey]

I can't count how many times I 've screamed at my radio over something Noory (aka "Dave" here at Bellgab) or one of his guests has said. He's a national disgrace! 

So I take it "Dave" is the justified name in this place? That's kinda weird.. I'm sure there's a good reason.

[Meister_000]

Right yes? however on another slant he's actually got the right attitude. It's all a matter of perspective I suppose. These things take discernment.

I'm sorry but can find nothing "right" about George. "Discernment" is indeed at the heart of the matter, but it appears that you and I demploy the word somewhat differently. Anyhow, I am indeed getting tired finally so I bid you good night, and may St. Gruyere be with you -- patron St. of Perception Sharpening (yes, I made that up  ).

[Meister_000]

So I take it "Dave" is the justified name in this place? That's kinda weird.. I'm sure there's a good reason.

I gather he posted "in disguise" under that user name here a while back. So Dave, or Jorch, or Snorry, and many others, I call him Horhay usually, and all of these are with disrespect and distain intended and assumed. We are "the haters" don't ya know.

[Meister_000]

How dare the two of you have an intelligent discussion on this thread.

Forgiveness?

[cheesemonkey]

I gather he posted "in disguise" under that user name here a while back. So Dave, or Jorch, or Snorry, and many others, I call him Horhay usually, and all of these are with disrespect and distain intended and assumed. We are "the haters" don't ya know.

Sure. I understand hate. It's a very comfortable place to fall into.

[Meister_000]

Sure. I understand hate. It's a very comfortable place to fall into.

Arrg. No, Dave uses that phrase "the haters" during his show in reference to all of his detractors, not least of which are the Bellgab group,  we are for the most part unappologetic haters of Coast and wear it with honor and distinction, dare I say a Badge of Discernment even.

[AppealPlay]

Someone took time to make this GIF and it's truly mesmerizing.

[cheesemonkey]

Someone took time to make this GIF and it's truly mesmerizing.

That's a home wrecker.

[GravitySucks]

I gather he posted "in disguise" under that user name here a while back. So Dave, or Jorch, or Snorry, and many others, I call him Horhay usually, and all of these are with disrespect and distain intended and assumed. We are "the haters" don't ya know.

I can't remember the exact specifics, but I think it was a guest of Art's that said something about "the guy that took your place, Dave Noory". Of course that might have been from some alternate timeline and I am misremembering it, or it could have been an angel.

[cheesemonkey]

I can't remember the exact specifics, but I think it was a guest of Art's that said something about "the guy that took your place, Dave Noory". Of course that might have been from some alternate timeline and I am misremembering it, or it could have been an angel.

Or everyone is afraid to speak the truth. Call a spade a spade ffs. We'll all live with it.

[Ciardelo]

Or everyone is afraid to speak the truth. Call a spade a spade ffs. We'll all live with it.

Something bothering you Dave?

[paladin1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9R4koZVUag

Reminds me of typical 'soldier talk.' 

I remember the Skipper giving what in his mind was probably the best damn war speech since Patton, while my Company Gunny picked his nose.

[paladin1991]

Someone took time to make this GIF and it's truly mesmerizing.

That's a ball buster of a gif.