Immigrant cops

[albrecht]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/21/immigrant-police-officers/70236828/
Coming to a neighborhood near you. I'll bet it will work out great. Especially since we already have problems sometimes with cops who at least are citizens and know something about our country, anguage, history, and laws.

[VtaGeezer]

...we already have problems sometimes with cops who at least are citizens and know something about our country, language, history, and laws.

Now that's a real stretch.

[DanTSX]

This is what you get for being born white.

That's what I learned from bellgab politics forum.

[PB the Deplorable]

Why not just import some Federales from Mexico.  Can't wait for third world cops shaking us down for bribes and all the rest

[PB the Deplorable]

In China, as in other despotic dumps run by dictators, the military stationed locally are from other parts of the country - they don't want them to hesitate when it comes time to fire on their own citizens.

Along with demonizing the officers we currently have, yet seemingly paradoxally providing their departments with 'surplus' military/battlefield hardware, this is another step toward nationalizing our police forces.  Obama's solution to American citizen cops simply not firing on crowds when ordered is to hire foreigners who will.

[Quick Karl]

In China, as in other despotic dumps run by dictators, the military stationed locally are from other parts of the country - they don't want them to hesitate when it comes time to fire on their own citizens.

Along with demonizing the officers we currently have, yet seemingly paradoxally providing their departments with 'surplus' military/battlefield hardware, this is another step toward nationalizing our police forces.  Obama's solution to American citizen cops simply not firing on crowds when ordered is to hire foreigners who will.

If that ever happens near me, I'll be hunting them.

[VtaGeezer]

Obama's solution to American citizen cops simply not firing on crowds when ordered is to hire foreigners who will.

A rational person would realize that the WH has nothing to say about the police hiring requirements of Bumfuck Indiana or wherever.  He's been in office for over six years; when does all this idiotic evil fantasy you ceaselessly spout about Obama's tyranny begin.  You've flipped out, pal. Big time. Hearing voices yet? 

[PB the Deplorable]

A rational person would realize that the WH has nothing to say about the police hiring requirements of Bumfuck Indiana or wherever.  He's been in office for over six years; when does all this idiotic evil fantasy you ceaselessly spout about Obama's tyranny begin.  You've flipped out, pal. Big time. Hearing voices yet?

All I see is everything heading in one direction - the wrong direction. 

What is it you think his 30-some 'Czars' and their staffs are doing all day?  They don't have departments or agencies to run, but they do have time - and 'Presidential' authority - to meddle and spread their agendas anywhere and everywhere. 

All that talk we've heard over the years from the Left when they were out of power about the way things 'should be', guess what, they are implementing as much as they can as fast as they can under President Jarrett - while the smug narcissistic front man watches ESPN in the morning, golfs in the afternoon, attends dinner fundraisers, fits in a speech or meeting here and there, and has parties at night.

[VtaGeezer]

All I see is everything heading in one direction - the wrong direction. 

What is it you think his 30-some 'Czars' and their staffs are doing all day?  They don't have departments or agencies to run, but they do have time - and 'Presidential' authority - to meddle and spread their agendas anywhere and everywhere. 

All that talk we've heard over the years from the Left when they were out of power about the way things 'should be', guess what, they are implementing as much as they can as fast as they can under President Jarrett - while the smug narcissistic front man watches ESPN in the morning, golfs in the afternoon, attends dinner fundraisers, fits in a speech or meeting here and there, and has parties at night.

Don't change the subject. 
You said " Obama's solution to American citizen cops simply not firing on crowds when ordered is to hire foreigners who will."
That's pretty explicit.  I can say I've never heard such things about any politician, let alone a President.  So drop the bullshit about "direction" and czars and golf.  Tell us when and why he's going to order these the immigrant cops to shoot into crowds of Americans.  Give us the real scoop of your prediction of slaughter of the decent folk at the order of their President.  Back it up.  Or are you going to dance away from another of your psycho level hateful fantasies.

[PB the Deplorable]

Don't change the subject. 
You said " Obama's solution to American citizen cops simply not firing on crowds when ordered is to hire foreigners who will."
That's pretty explicit.  I can say I've never heard such things about any politician, let alone a President.  So drop the bullshit about "direction" and czars and golf.  Tell us when and why he's going to order these the immigrant cops to shoot into crowds of Americans.  Give us the real scoop of your prediction of slaughter of the decent folk at the order of their President.  Back it up.  Or are you going to dance away from another of your psycho level hateful fantasies.

Fair enough.

But first  I will say the reason you haven't 'heard such things about any politician, let alone a President' is because we've never had one anything like this before (although certainly you'll agree plenty just as bad has been said about Reagan and Nixon)


Obama has the mindset of a dictator.  He's been very clear about that - in words and in actions.  He's anti-West due to the British colonialism of his fathers homeland.  At a young age he found a home in the Anti-American Anti-West Left, and has swallowed their entire world view and agenda - from Frank Davis to Rev Wright, and every associate in between.  There don't seem to be any significant non-radicals in his past.

He clearly understands the weaknesses in our Constitution and our system of government, and has been able to exploit them.  Managing fellow Luo tribesman Odingo's campaign in Kenya from his Senate office, the violence generated following that loss, and the eventual deal to share power, showed he understands political intrigue and extra-legal transfers of power.  Engineering his own election in 2008 - an unknown with no accomplishments coming from nowhere to beat Hilary Clinton then John McCain further demonstrated his understanding of electoral politics in the US.  It is not unreasonable to think he has spent his life studying various leaders ascensions to power in all situations.

As far as his world view, the West is 'racist', Capitalism is 'evil', some people are poor because others are rich, some nations are poor because other nations are wealthy.  Our system is fundamentally flawed:  the Constitution is outdated, 'separation of powers' and 'the consent of the governed' just get in the way, voters on the Left are suppressed, etc.

Marxism is the solution - it just hasn't been properly implemented.  It's failed due to lack of leadership, lack of funds, and most of all because the West in general and the US specifically have fought against it all-out through wars, economic embargoes, diplomatic isolation, etc.  The world is worse off because of us, and if we would just withdraw and redistribute our ill-gotten wealth around the world, most of the violence would dissipate (which explains this treaty with Iran). 


That's his mindset, and that's where his expertise lies.  If events were to line up and things were to go just wrong - a so-called 'Perfect Storm' - if the calculation was at least somewhat favorable, Obama will be prepared to seize power and refuse to leave office.  Then do here what Mao, Stalin, Castro, and the rest have done.  It seems highly unlikely, but he is lining things up to be ready just in case.

Regardless of that, I believe he is very dangerous and should be opposed and obstructed wherever he can be.  If he leaves at the end of his term, he leaves the country worse off, more fascist, less sound economically, weaker in every way, closer to the tipping point

The man is a Monster.  It's my opinion he would seize permanent power if the opportunity presented itself (or can be manufactured).  And if that were to happen, he'll be ready.  He'd need enough of the police and military to be loyal to him and to follow his orders

[VtaGeezer]

You're proving again that you're in the top echelon of right wing lunatics; the dangerously delusional whackos. Get some therapy before you end up as the star of a SWAT or Secret Service event on the 6 o'clock news.

[albrecht]

A rational person would realize that the WH has nothing to say about the police hiring requirements of Bumfuck Indiana or wherever. 

Yet. Look at the diatribes and intervention in Ferguson. Look at the investigations of a death of a black guy in Alabama (you think if a white guy commits suicide, or it murdered, the Feds are mobilized?) Look at his "beer summit" and instant criticism of the police when a friend of his, a professor even, decided to kick in his own door and berate police (instead of doing something rational like asking a neighbor or family for a spare key, calling a locksmith, trying a window, etc.)  Look at all the Federal surplus military equipment given to police agencies and all the Federal grants. Look at his relentless pursuit of Sheriff Arpaio (an Art Bell guest once) because he wants to enforce the laws against illegals and doesn't coddle prisoners enough for Obama's liking. It is a matter of time he takes more direct action. He already promised, on July 2nd, 2008 in Boulder, Colorado the creation and establishment of a “Civilian National Security Force.” He further promised it would be “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military.”

[NowhereInTime]

Fair enough.

Keeping my fingers crossed!

But first  I will say the reason you haven't 'heard such things about any politician, let alone a President' is because we've never had one anything like this before (although certainly you'll agree plenty just as bad has been said about done by Reagan and Nixon)

Fixed this for you.  You're welcome.

Obama has the mindset of a dictator.

Oh, the disappointment sets in again...

He's been very clear about that - in words and in actions.

Audacity of Hope?  Really just a sequel to Mein Kampf.  By a black guy.   Who dared to bring health insurance to people.  When do we seat the Tribunal!?!?

He's anti-West due to the British colonialism of his fathers homeland.

Yet lived in our Western most state, Hawaii.  Hmmmm... Say, doesn't the Hawaiian flag still have the Union Jack in it?

At a young age he found a home in the Anti-American Anti-West Left, and has swallowed their entire world view and agenda

As well as swallowing many puffs of weed!!  Perhaps you're pissed because he forgot to "pass" back in the day?

- from Frank Davis to Rev Wright, and every associate in between.

You left out Flat Top, Pear Shape, Prune Face, Shaky... oh, and ALINSKY!!!!!!

There don't seem to be any significant non-radicals in his past.

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He clearly understands the weaknesses in our Constitution and our system of government, and has been able to exploit them.

You mean the same Constituition you, the Strict Constructionalist, have touted as the final word on the Founding?  How, then, could it have "weakness"?

Managing fellow Luo tribesman Odingo's campaign in Kenya from his Senate office, the violence generated following that loss, and the eventual deal to share power, showed he understands political intrigue and extra-legal transfers of power.

Did we change posts?  Oh, this is more Kenyan Muslim Birther crap.  My bad.

Engineering his own election in 2008

Never has a more sinister manipulation of voters been perpetrated!

- an unknown with no accomplishments coming from nowhere...

You mean like Ted Cruz?  The entire current GOP slate?

... to beat Hilary Clinton then John McCain further demonstrated his understanding of electoral politics in the US.

So, this "unknown" with "no accomplishments" somehow understood enough to beat Clinton and McCain?  That BASTARD!!

It is not unreasonable to think he has spent his life studying various leaders ascensions to power in all situations.

Yeah it is.  Jesus you need to get out more.

As far as his world view, the West is 'racist', Capitalism is 'evil', some people are poor because others are rich, some nations are poor because other nations are wealthy.

And history has borne out differently when?  Please Google: "Colonialism" and also "The Gilded Age"

Our system is fundamentally flawed:  the Constitution is outdated, 'separation of powers' and 'the consent of the governed' just get in the way, voters on the Left are suppressed, etc.

You mean this same system he has "understood" to get elected?  I see.  Now that he's won, the system is flawed.

Marxism is the solution - it just hasn't been properly implemented.

Really.  The same President who bailed out GM, AIG, and Wall Street is a "marxist" who, 6 years in, is just waiting to have his Negro Army force us into Gray Pajamas at gun point. Do tell, Peter Pan.
 

It's failed due to lack of leadership,

Conservatism?

... and most of all because the West in general and the US specifically have fought against it all-out through wars, economic embargoes, diplomatic isolation, etc.

Sounds like the opposition to conservatism to me.

The world is worse off because of us, and if we would just withdraw and redistribute our ill-gotten wealth around the world, most of the violence would dissipate (which explains this treaty with Iran).

No, you're right.  The world would be better off if the "undesirables" would just settle for their lot in life and allow us "free and unfettered" access to their resources.  They should just accept their station at birth and pipe down, right Papes? 

That's his mindset, and that's where his expertise lies.

Thank you, Agent Hotchner.

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If events were to line up and things were to go just wrong - a so-called 'Perfect Storm' - if the calculation was at least somewhat favorable, Obama will be prepared to seize power and refuse to leave office.

Do the pages of your copy of The Turner Diaries stick together at this point, or have you laminated them?

Then do here what Mao, Stalin, Castro, and the rest have done.

Wait, what have Mao, Stalin, and Castro done here?  Open up a chain of restaurants based on famous old commies called Planet Havana?  You appear to be deathly afraid of a chain called "Obama Burgers"

It seems highly unlikely, but he is lining things up to be ready just in case.

NOOOO!  Not after your rational, well thought out snuff film fantasy, it doesn't seem so far fetched, after all! 

By the way, his Plan B?  If he fails at "world domination" he's going to live in the Magnum PI mansion Robin's Nest. 

Regardless of that, I believe he is very dangerous and should be opposed and obstructed wherever he can be.

Hey!  Paper*Boy is Mitch McConnell!!

If he leaves at the end of his term,

As opposed to, what, joining the WH butler staff?

.. he leaves the country worse off

Damn those moochers and their health insurance!

, more fascist,

Coming to a theater near you:  Crystal Nacht (starring Billy Crystal)

less sound economically,

Despite cutting unemployment in half, the budget deficit in half, the stock market near an all time high, corporate profits higher than ever, ending our dependence on foreign oil to the point of nearly collapsing the oil market, surging renewable energy development, and the strongest dollar in 12 years (remember when you said Russia, China and Japan were going to replace the dollar as the world's reserve currency of record?).

weaker in every way,

Like...?  China about to invade us?  The Japanese economy about to eclipse us?  The French Navy about to sink us? The Queen of England forcing us to courtsy and eat crumpets?!?!?

closer to the tipping point

Yeah, its obvious you've been "tipping" it all day after reading this post.

The man is a Monster.

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It's my opinion he would seize permanent power if the opportunity presented itself (or can be manufactured).

Luckily, you're a crackpot shut in with delusions of grandeur but a fear of the outdoors.

And if that were to happen, he'll be ready. He'd need enough of the police and military to be loyal to him and to follow his orders

Hence your previous delusions about drafting Mexicans into the Chicago PD?

Stop sniffing the model glue and go outside for awhile.  Please.

[VtaGeezer]

Yet. Look at the diatribes and intervention in Ferguson. Look at the investigations of a death of a black guy in Alabama (you think if a white guy commits suicide, or it murdered, the Feds are mobilized?) Look at his "beer summit" and instant criticism of the police when a friend of his, a professor even, decided to kick in his own door and berate police (instead of doing something rational like asking a neighbor or family for a spare key, calling a locksmith, trying a window, etc.)  Look at all the Federal surplus military equipment given to police agencies and all the Federal grants. Look at his relentless pursuit of Sheriff Arpaio (an Art Bell guest once) because he wants to enforce the laws against illegals and doesn't coddle prisoners enough for Obama's liking. It is a matter of time he takes more direct action. He already promised, on July 2nd, 2008 in Boulder, Colorado the creation and establishment of a “Civilian National Security Force.” He further promised it would be “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military.”

Oh jeez...not more of your intentional misrepresentations.  The Justice Dept issued a report on the killing of Brown and the Ferguson Police.  It took no legal or departmental action against Ferguson or its police dept., though it could have.  The release of the cops emails and the city's fine scams was enough to send the rats scurrying. You misrepresent the now ancient Gates issue; he had his key but his door was stuck and asked his cab driver to help him push it open.  No door was "kicked in".  Your idol Arpaio was cute when he did the pink jail togs and green baloney sandwiches in the Maricopa jail, but has built a reputation here in AZ (Mississippi West) of being a grandstanding dictatorial jackass. In anyplace but backward AZ, the 80+ yr old fart would have been put out to pasture 20 years ago.

Your reference to the Boulder campaign speech takes one phrase (bold) totally out of context; as rightwingers typically do:
Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO:
"[As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem â€" they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.  We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up."

[PB the Deplorable]

You're proving again that you're in the top echelon of right wing lunatics; the dangerously delusional whackos. Get some therapy before you end up as the star of a SWAT or Secret Service event on the 6 o'clock news.

And yet you can point to very little about Obama that doesn't fit with what I posted

[VtaGeezer]

And yet you can point to very little about Obama that doesn't fit with what I posted

You have no shame. 

[PB the Deplorable]

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Is this your evidence there were at least some non-radicals among his acquaintances?

His grandparents - the 'typical white people', as he referred to them in one of his unguarded moments away from the teleprompter - who handed him over to Marxist Frank Marshall Davis?

[NowhereInTime]

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Is this your evidence there were at least some non-radicals among his acquaintances?

His grandparents - the 'typical white people', as he referred to them in one of his unguarded moments away from the teleprompter - who handed him over to Marxist Frank Marshall Davis?

You mean his grandfather who served as a Sergeant in the US Army during World War II and his grandmother who helped build B-29's?  Yes, they were "typical white people": they served during their country's hour of need, worked hard all their lives, and helped raise their grandson. 

You have a strange idea of "radical" if you are including these two people...