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George Knapp

Started by ArtBellFan, April 27, 2008, 08:05:01 AM

Quote from: Juan Cena on June 29, 2015, 10:41:55 PM

I imagine Knapp has no need for Dave's dating site. He probably has every woman on Vegas on his cell phone.

He's happily married and has been for a long time.  Has he gotten some on the side?  Its possible but I doubt it.  If there is one thing this man has it's integrity.

zeebo

Quote from: aldousburbank on July 18, 2015, 10:09:40 PM
Damn! I feel bad for GK now, hanging on courageously out of place at C2C. Poor dude.

Yes but the dude's kinda like Sean Connery, who can show up in a lousy movie and still come out looking cool.   8)

zeebo

Quote from: Nebraska888 on July 18, 2015, 11:21:36 AM
May I join you for that cocktail????  Knapp is the best.

Of course Neb, pull up a chair.   :D

goldendeal

Something we have always known, Knapp is way superior host for the Coast program. In his interviewing skills as well as many other areas. Surely the powers that be at the network must see this. My question is, what would it take to demote Jorch and perhaps promote Knapp to full time host? This is a serious question. I can’t understand how the network heads listen to Jorch on a nightly basis and think he is doing a great job. It is really unlistenable. His interviewing skills are the worst I or anyone I know have ever heard. When you have a professional journalist such as Knapp on staff and your go to guy is a part time wanna be hack, this doesn’t say much about your network.

Quote from: goldendeal on July 18, 2015, 10:31:57 PM
Something we have always known, Knapp is way superior host for the Coast program. In his interviewing skills as well as many other areas. Surely the powers that be at the network must see this. My question is, what would it take to demote Jorch and perhaps promote Knapp to full time host? This is a serious question. I can’t understand how the network heads listen to Jorch on a nightly basis and think he is doing a great job. It is really unlistenable. His interviewing skills are the worst I or anyone I know have ever heard. When you have a professional journalist such as Knapp on staff and your go to guy is a part time wanna be hack, this doesn’t say much about your network.

Knapp is a reporter.  That is his first love.  He will not retire from that position until his bosses tell him that he is too old.

goldendeal

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 18, 2015, 10:40:53 PM
Knapp is a reporter.  That is his first love.  He will not retire until his bosses tell him that he is too old.



I don't want Knapp to retire, I want Jorch to retire...and the sooner the better. His set list of standard questions to guest he never wavers from is so old, it is moldy. When listeners know the host's questions before they are asked its time to change the host.

Quote from: goldendeal on July 18, 2015, 10:48:52 PM


I don't want Knapp to retire, I want Jorch to retire...and the sooner the better. His set list of standard questions to guest he never wavers from is so old, it is moldy. When listeners know the host's questions before they are asked its time to change the host.

No, I'm talking about his news bosses. You know how it is in TV.  They push the oldsters out and put in fresh faces.  Its a damn shame but the truth nevertheless.  It'll be a long time before he is too old for radio.  Maybe if he retires from the TV gig then maybe he will want to do a full-time radio show.  Frankly, I'd take some years off and travel around while I still have my health.

goldendeal

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 18, 2015, 10:57:53 PM
No, I'm talking about his news bosses. You know how it is in TV.  They push the oldsters out and put in fresh faces.  Its a damn shame but the truth nevertheless.  It'll be a long time before he is too old for radio.  Maybe if he retires from the TV gig then maybe he will want to do a full-time radio show.  Frankly, I'd take some years off and travel around while I still have my health.

One thing is for certain, Jorch is definitely not a fresh face.. despite his hair dye and plastic surgery, he is fooling no one.

Quote from: goldendeal on July 18, 2015, 11:19:07 PM
One thing is for certain, Jorch is definitely not a fresh face.. despite his hair dye and plastic surgery, he is fooling no one.

Jorch is on the way out. He may hang on to his Beyond Beleef gig for a while but once the money runs out for that show, he will be put out to pasture.

UFQuack

Quote from: goldendeal on July 18, 2015, 10:31:57 PM
My question is, what would it take to demote Jorch and perhaps promote Knapp to full time host?...I can’t understand how the network heads listen to Jorch on a nightly basis and think he is doing a great job...unlistenable...His interviewing skills are the worst

This is a fair question, but then life is not fair. The network heads almost always do the wrong thing no matter what happens. This is true for television, just look at the host CBS picked after Craig Ferguson left The Late Late Show. I know people say they like him, but sometimes rapid popularity--this is no indicator. Jorch was well-liked initially because he seemed to show interest in the show, we know now that those were all lies.

Jackstar

Quote from: UFQuack on July 19, 2015, 12:18:48 AM
The network heads almost always do the [...] lies.




You can see their offices over on the SE corner, about half-way up.

Quote from: aldousburbank on July 18, 2015, 10:09:40 PM
Damn! I feel bad for GK now, hanging on courageously out of place at C2C. Poor dude.

Just a matter of time before he quits or is forcibly removed, Norry style.

Robert

Quote from: 21st Century Man on July 18, 2015, 10:40:53 PMKnapp is a reporter.  That is his first love.  He will not retire from that position until his bosses tell him that he is too old.
That is the problem for us, I'm sure.  People seem to assume there's a bunch of people clamoring for Noory's job.  But people who'd be much better than Noory, such as Knapp, have better things to do.  And since we're not talking about huge sums of $, what makes them better things is a matter of their personal interest.  But in Noory's case, it really is just to collect the not-huge, but substantial, sum of $.

Quote from: Robert on July 19, 2015, 05:48:34 PM
That is the problem for us, I'm sure.  People seem to assume there's a bunch of people clamoring for Noory's job.  But people who'd be much better than Noory, such as Knapp, have better things to do.  And since we're not talking about huge sums of $, what makes them better things is a matter of their personal interest.  But in Noory's case, it really is just to collect the not-huge, but substantial, sum of $.
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Allo!
With you am i still.
Possible interventions i thought of includeing going next step,ie setting up an crowd-funded golden parachute fund enabling mr.noory to retire to costa rico or brazil,agreed that he would stay off air outside that nation ad infinitum.
Next up making that 'offer-you-can't-refuse' inclusive as an attempt to find out who's behind Mr.Noory's apparent absolute guarantee that no matter how bad he does,there are never performance issues that would lead to an switch to another chair warmer,as the peter principle seems active.
Next step after that will be cognitive analysis of Mr.Noory's 'god-father'/"cougar"/'sugar-daddy(s)' whom are keeping him in his chair at c2c hq.
VIS:My earlier speculations about his possible black-mail campaign,what else to think.
Does 'he'/"they" have an file of "dirt" on executives/financiers at high levels in 'the system' behind premier or ih8-radio...
Or,even 'high binders' in semi-official alphabet agencies...
Whom keep the thumb on the scales so he never is evaluated like others would be under these (apparent) circumstances...thus,"mr.x" is really demonstrating that he can place an "kklone" cum cyber-Noory in the hot seat here, (as an 'pilot' project {for darpa})??
(I'm not yokeing here.)
"B_B"
PS:Is Mr.Noory the same man as before he took the commander's chair at c2c??


goldendeal

These health shows are soooo slow....its bad enough Jorch forces this subject down listener’s throats on a weekly basis, now Knapp is getting in on the act. I just can’t trust anyone on health issues that sells bulk vitamins…it’s like trusting a Kirby Vacuum sales person for a demonstration to clean your carpet.

Guy From V

I doubt Knapp chose to have this guy as a guest, it sounds like he can't stand him.

UFQuack

This show may be slow and even boring if you're not interested in the subject but still necessary. I think everybody who is interested has most likely been lucky enough to be fucked over by taking corporate pharmaceuticals which has become a common occurrence for like 15-20 years, or possibly more--I don't know since I didn't follow it so much earlier. It's an informative show, it is different from the ones Jorch does with his health hucksters who have far-fetched treatments that nobody has ever heard of for different diseases.

It is not unrealistic to suggest trying natural remedies to see if they help before going to the doctor or even after seeing doctors who could not help.

Actually most vitamins and supplements are not used as cures but rather as preventative measures you take to keep yourself in good health.

goldendeal

Quote from: UFQuack on July 20, 2015, 12:41:29 AM
This show may be slow and even boring if you're not interested in the subject but still necessary. I think everybody who is interested has most likely been lucky enough to be fucked over by taking corporate pharmaceuticals which has become a common occurrence for like 15-20 years, or possibly more--I don't know since I didn't follow it so much earlier. It's an informative show, it is different from the ones Jorch does with his health hucksters who have far-fetched treatments that nobody has ever heard of for different diseases.

It is not unrealistic to suggest trying natural remedies to see if they help before going to the doctor or even after seeing doctors who could not help.

Actually most vitamins and supplements are not used as cures but rather as preventative measures you take to keep yourself in good health.

In a sense I do agree with you, however, since the face of Coast is no longer what it once was and has totally moved away from the subject matter the show was once based on, I feel the "health” shows now fits very well.  That said, 2 to 3 times a week is a little much....Jorch has an agenda on this subject and is not shy about forcing it down listener’s throats. If you go back and count the health, alternative medicine, immunization,  big pharma subjects and guests in the, say last 3 months, you will see 10+ programs.
I don’t mind the subject from time to time but Jorch is beating it into the ground, and now with Knapp on the band wagon it is unbearable. Move on already….I got it, Big Pharma Bad, Immunizations Bad… Alternative Medicine Good, each program they have nothing more to add and its getting redundant.


Robert

Quote from: goldendeal on July 19, 2015, 11:56:18 PMThese health shows are soooo slow....its bad enough Jorch forces this subject down listener’s throats on a weekly basis, now Knapp is getting in on the act. I just can’t trust anyone on health issues that sells bulk vitamins…it’s like trusting a Kirby Vacuum sales person for a demonstration to clean your carpet.
I did, & he did a good job.  I might've even been in the market for a new vacuum cleaner, but once he quoted me the price it was hideously expensive, so no deal.  But I did go to their local office to buy a still-overpriced upholstery shampooer attachment, which I then used to create miniature foam parties for children with Ivory soap & food coloring at my friends' barbecues.

What shocked me last night is that now that Noory's finally correct in his pronunciation of turmeric, Knapp has taken up Noory's old "toomeric" pronunciation!  Please don't tell me that Noory's condition is "catching"!  If so, it's a good thing I can finally get back to Art Bell now; I already do a fair amount of work cynically, I don't need to catch whatever Noory's disseminating.

Robert

Quote from: goldendeal on July 20, 2015, 03:04:41 AMIn a sense I do agree with you, however, since the face of Coast is no longer what it once was and has totally moved away from the subject matter the show was once based on, I feel the "health” shows now fits very well.  That said, 2 to 3 times a week is a little much....Jorch has an agenda on this subject and is not shy about forcing it down listener’s throats. If you go back and count the health, alternative medicine, immunization,  big pharma subjects and guests in the, say last 3 months, you will see 10+ programs.
I don’t mind the subject from time to time but Jorch is beating it into the ground, and now with Knapp on the band wagon it is unbearable. Move on already….I got it, Big Pharma Bad, Immunizations Bad… Alternative Medicine Good, each program they have nothing more to add and its getting redundant.
I don't believe Jorch has any such agenda -- or any agenda at all.  The agenda of his producers now is, "Who can we get who's willing to come on this show & who we don't need more than 3 minutes of work to contact & prep?"  It's the health hucksters who have an agenda.

You could tell Knapp was trying hard to distinguish his program from Noory's on such subjects, when Knapp said it wasn't going to be an infomercial.  Then he intro'd a segment by acknowledging that the guest would start w a certain amount of free advertising before the serious stuff started.

There's a structural problem in this & many other fields, which is that it takes a lot of work to get facts, and that most people who do that much work (or pay that much for other people's work) are going to want to be remunerated for it in some way other than their own enjoyment.  That's every bit as much true of the alternative health people as it is of the mainstream-conventional types.  Therefore the only people with a lot of info are going to tend to have an ax to grind.  Not only that, but the only way to get people's att'n is often to exaggerate your findings, or at least to evince more confidence in them than you may actually have.

Then, hidden among those who are basically honest but may need to stretch things to pay the bills are those who pretend to be disinterested advisors but are playing a confidence game.  The Environmental Working Group comes to mind as one of the latter.  At one time I thought they were basically honest but under-powered, i.e. doing the best they could but ineffectual.  Eventually I had those excuses ripped away by other observers & saw they were not operating in good faith.

HumanBeing

Knapp's brief bio here http://www.lasvegasnow.com/contact/bios/george-knapp
Very impressive qualifications and is why Knapp will always be head and shoulders above Noory.

Noory should have stuck working behind the scenes. Apparently Noory was dusting off his 3 regional Emmy awards (Knapp has 24 of them) the other day. Saying he only unboxed them recently. lol, yeah right Ralphy sure you did :D

Knapp has too much on his plate to take over nightly C2C duties. I recently asked him on twitter about the possibility of hosting Art's new show on the weekends or guest hosting when needed. Knapp replied in a direct message that he was 'slammed' as it is and would listen to Art's show when he could.



Nebraska888

Quote from: goldendeal on July 20, 2015, 03:04:41 AM
In a sense I do agree with you, however, since the face of Coast is no longer what it once was and has totally moved away from the subject matter the show was once based on, I feel the "health” shows now fits very well.  That said, 2 to 3 times a week is a little much....Jorch has an agenda on this subject and is not shy about forcing it down listener’s throats. If you go back and count the health, alternative medicine, immunization,  big pharma subjects and guests in the, say last 3 months, you will see 10+ programs.
I don’t mind the subject from time to time but Jorch is beating it into the ground, and now with Knapp on the band wagon it is unbearable. Move on already….I got it, Big Pharma Bad, Immunizations Bad… Alternative Medicine Good, each program they have nothing more to add and its getting redundant.

Amen!   ;)

UFQuack

Well you can't control what any radio show will do for topics. They expect new listeners to tune in who have not heard a topic that's been repeated a billion times which the regular listener knows by heart. Some of the UFO and paranormal stuff has been repeated to death too and they know it hence the more shows with horrible health hucksters.

Not to get political but what gets me is when some people compare the huckster's scam to the pharmaceutical industry's scam. It's not even in the same ball park! You buy an alternative supplement and it doesn't seem you feel better for it, so you chuck it in the garbage, what did it cost you? A little trouble to try something, no great expense. Not so with the other way around, it is a labyrinth of problems, and what's worse is that it carries the "authority" of the entire supposedly "scientific" medical establishment with it. Of course the intentions behind corporations and the money that can be generated will dictate what kind of science they do.

*gets off anti-pharmaceutical high-horse, pops some vitamin C and green tea capsules, gives the finger (both hands) to corporations and their officially approved poisons. The scams are not even close in the ways to get ripped-off department.

Quote from: HumanBeing on July 20, 2015, 12:55:51 PM

Apparently Noory was dusting off his 3 regional Emmy awards (Knapp has 24 of them) the other day.

Lol, so true. And Knapp's were hard won Emmys, for carefully researched investigative journalism while Noory's were for .... fluff. Kind of like attending the Grammys when you won a Grammy for a violin concerto and the person next to you won for the soundtrack to Barney.

goldendeal

Quote from: Robert on July 20, 2015, 12:27:30 PM
I did, & he did a good job.  I might've even been in the market for a new vacuum cleaner, but once he quoted me the price it was hideously expensive, so no deal.  But I did go to their local office to buy a still-overpriced upholstery shampooer attachment, which I then used to create miniature foam parties for children with Ivory soap & food coloring at my friends' barbecues..

Robert, you did better than I did with the Kirby sales guy, I had to call the police, now that's what I call a salesman...he hung in there to the bitter end, was even still trying to sell me from the back of the squad car, once the car was pulling away, I heard him begin to work his magic on the cop driving the car. ....impressive.

goldendeal

Jorch does have such an agenda....I bought his cookbook for 25 cents at a garage sale...
It had George Norry's name plastered on the front which I feel devalued the book immensely  .They were asking 2.00 for it, I offered  25 cents...The most ridiculous cookbook ever. Almost every recipe had some form of turmeric in it.  I want my 25 cents back.


AZZERAE

I'm a casual Knapp fan, and while he doesn't have what Art has, he lives within his strengths (for the most part).

This weekend's shows were not up to scratch, though. I get not every ones a winner, and perhaps its because of my excitement for Art's comeback, as well as Knapp winding up with shitty guests.

But man, he did 2 bad shows this weekend. The guests were awful, the phone lines poor quality... on and on and on!

Probably those were PremRat selections for guests. You can always tell when Knapp's guest is one he chose himself by the enthusiasm in his voice. He was very seriously ill, though, in late 2014, and maybe as a result of that he's become a little more interested in medical topics.

AZZERAE

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on July 22, 2015, 08:21:14 AM
Probably those were PremRat selections for guests. You can always tell when Knapp's guest is one he chose himself by the enthusiasm in his voice. He was very seriously ill, though, in late 2014, and maybe as a result of that he's become a little more interested in medical topics.

Oh no, that's not cool.

What was Knapp sick with, Unscreened Caller?

I was not aware of this.

Nebraska888

Quote from: Unscreened Caller on July 20, 2015, 06:50:33 PM
Lol, so true. And Knapp's were hard won Emmys, for carefully researched investigative journalism while Noory's were for .... fluff. Kind of like attending the Grammys when you won a Grammy for a violin concerto and the person next to you won for the soundtrack to Barney.

Excellent point.

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