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Obama's Going Full-on Mussolini After the Mid-Terms

Started by Ruteger, October 27, 2014, 07:43:40 PM

Quote from: Quick Karl on November 01, 2014, 02:01:39 PM
People have become pussies.

Karl, I'm going to bend you over my knee and spank some sense into you.  Then, we'll see where the afternoon takes us from there.


Quote from: West of the Rockies on November 01, 2014, 01:45:14 PM
Out of curiosity, after 2016 comes and goes and Obama hasn't gone "full Musolini," will anyone here bother to say, "Damn, guess I was wrong"?

Nah, didn't think so.  Instead, we'll hear about Hillary wants our guns!  She wants to turn all our cheerleaders into lesbians and our young men into eunuchs!  Quel horror!


Well, after the election if Obama ramps up his illegal unilateral actions, will anyone here bother to say "Damn, guess I was wrong"?

Of course not.

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on November 01, 2014, 10:44:04 AM
Oh, please.  When was the last time you heard of that happening?...

Well, people that work for lumber companies have had these creeps and terrorists show up at their homes.  So have people who work for companies that have done business with other companies that have done animal testing (not that I condone that). 

If I recall correctly, Acorn affiliated groups have dropped in on other folks working at non-approved companies (such as banks, Chevron), but I don't remember the specifics.  Others are threatened all the time.  These people get worked into a lather by their handlers and off they go to terrorize some family at their home, believing they are somehow in the right.

And don't forget the Occupy thugs.  They are capable of almost anything.

Why invite trouble home.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 01, 2014, 06:20:09 AM
... By definition if they don't follow the ideals of what they espouse they're not what they say they are. Therefore they're something else. Whatever it is, it isn't liberal.

A dog with a tag on it saying it's a cat doesn't make it so. But it might suit both cats and dogs to perpetuate the myth for different reasons.

And yet the Left in the SF Bay Area are in good standing with the Left in the rest of the country.  Much of the time they are opinion leaders. 

You won't admit the thugs and tyrants of the Left are actually on the Left.  I get that - you might have to re-examine your assumptions and beliefs.  ''They're really all a bunch of 'right-wingers' ".   Yeah, sure they are. 


A friend of mine has some truck gardens  for growing produce for a local farmers market. On the application for a stall there it was asked  whether farmer's produce is organic or conventional. Since she grows  organically she checked that 'box' on the form. The woman at the farmer's market  reported my friend to the U.S.D.A. and she has received a letter from USDA that stated they were going to fine her $10,000 as she has not filed for USDA Organic certification. This farmer's market is funded by a grant acquired by local Democrat part apparachiks that are bound by their allegiance to statist bureaucracies to report anyone . My friend  was merely answering a question and not making a marketing claim.

semantic obfuscation  of right-left paradigm used to divide and conquer, then to subjugate people to  a corporate led neo-feudal statist tyranny.
Neo -conservatives are not conservatives.  Neo-cons are the corporate state  I won't use Liberal and/or progressive for the Democrats, they are not either They are corporate socialists.Either 'party' is a big cosmic hiney that wants you to stick your tongue in and subjugate you to serfdom.
If Obama goes Mussolini; Just remember the Italian people hanged him on a lamp post with piano wire.
Descendants of the corporate-banksters  that backed Hitler before WWII  are the families backing both Neo-cons and run both parties and are subject to the CFR. CFR is a Rockefeller project and makes government policy .
Wake up people!

albrecht

Quote from: Unquenchable Angst on November 01, 2014, 08:05:30 PM
semantic obfuscation  of right-left paradigm used to divide and conquer, then to subjugate people to  a corporate led neo-feudal statist tyranny.
Neo -conservatives are not conservatives.  Neo-cons are the corporate state  I won't use Liberal and/or progressive for the Democrats, they are not either They are corporate socialists.Either 'party' is a big cosmic hiney that wants you to stick your tongue in and subjugate you to serfdom.
If Obama goes Mussolini; Just remember the Italian people hanged him on a lamp post with piano wire.
Descendants of the corporate-banksters  that backed Hitler before WWII  are the families backing both Neo-cons and run both parties and are subject to the CFR. CFR is a Rockefeller project and makes government policy .
Wake up people!
Nice rant but, sadly, mainly true. Lest we forget also bankers like Jacob Schiff etc bankrolled Lenin's whistle-stop tour of Europe and the Russian revolution. And in WWI all the major heads of state were cousins. Some family reunion. Read "Arms of Krupp" by William Manchester sometime also. Then take pity on our defense industry and contractors with their mergers and hard times when troublesome peace, occasionally, breaks out. That family went centuries in the business. Krupp knew how to do it. Haha, but not funny really.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 01, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Well, people that work for lumber companies have had these creeps and terrorists show up at their homes.  So have people who work for companies that have done business with other companies that have done animal testing (not that I condone that). 

If I recall correctly, Acorn affiliated groups have dropped in on other folks working at non-approved companies (such as banks, Chevron), but I don't remember the specifics.  Others are threatened all the time.  These people get worked into a lather by their handlers and off they go to terrorize some family at their home, believing they are somehow in the right.

And don't forget the Occupy thugs.  They are capable of almost anything.

Why invite trouble home.

People of all political persuasions express their opinions in letters to the editor every day, and if  outraged mobs are harassing anyone at home, you'd have heard about it.  I agree that there are some nuts and extremists out there, and I have no use for anyone who chooses violence or intimidation over peaceful, orderly protest.  However, if you're afraid the'll show up at your door for writing a letter, you're greatly exaggerating the vastness of the left-wing conspiracy. 

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on November 01, 2014, 10:24:32 PM
People of all political persuasions express their opinions in letters to the editor every day, and if  outraged mobs are harassing anyone at home, you'd have heard about it.  I agree that there are some nuts and extremists out there, and I have no use for anyone who chooses violence or intimidation over peaceful, orderly protest.  However, if you're afraid the'll show up at your door for writing a letter, you're greatly exaggerating the vastness of the left-wing conspiracy.

The difference between the Left here and the Left in Normal America is here they have strength in numbers. 

The difference between the Left here and the Left in places like Cuba and North Korea is there they are the only ones with guns.  That's it.


Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 01, 2014, 10:35:52 PM
The difference between the Left here and the Left in Normal America is here they have strength in numbers. 

The difference between the Left here and the Left in places like Cuba and North Korea is there they are the only ones with guns.  That's it.

Please define "Normal America" so I'll be able to know if I'm living there.  And then please explain what the Left has in common with the Kim family, and why the heck it would want the U.S to be anything like North Korea. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on November 01, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Please define "Normal America" so I'll be able to know if I'm living there.  And then please explain what the Left has in common with the Kim family, and why the heck it would want the U.S to be anything like North Korea.

I'm guessing here you understand; The 'American left' (Normal American chapter) have looked and continue to look with envious eyes to the rock n roll lifestyle enjoyed by the cool cats in NK who bask in the virtuous and liberating example of equality for all. Kim Jong Un like his equally equal father before him has no truck with elitism, subjugation, oppression, murdering of perceived (real or imagined) opponents, chronic poverty for the vast majority, hierarchical totalitarian despotic regimes or self detachment from the rest of the world other than China who are getting increasingly irritated with their petulant bastard half sibling.

No siree bubb.   

As for Cuba, well, Havana has music playing out of nearly every bar, cafe, restaurant...oh and Flamenco dancers.  And devastatingly vivid red dresses, so I do see that appeal.  Food is adequate rather than wonderful, but he people are very friendly..

Here's two I took earlier.



Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on November 01, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Please define "Normal America" so I'll be able to know if I'm living there.  And then please explain what the Left has in common with the Kim family, and why the heck it would want the U.S to be anything like North Korea.

The ultimate goal of the Left is a one-world government, controlled by them.  If everyone else is disarmed, told only what they want them to know, dirt poor and helpless, all the better - like in North Korea.

Most of the dipshits who support the Left have no idea what's in store for them, or for the rest of us, if power is ever permanently seized.


Here is a map of the 2008 election by county.  The red is the area where the majority of voters voted against Obama.  They were not the ones duped by Obama.  They were not the ones who knew what they would be getting and supported that. 

Normal America didn't and wouldn't vote for that person - only the easily led and the Left-wing Fascists would and did.

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Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 12:56:10 AM
... As for Cuba, well, Havana has music playing out of nearly every bar, cafe, restaurant...oh and Flamenco dancers.  And devastatingly vivid red dresses, so I do see that appeal.  Food is adequate rather than wonderful, but he people are very friendly..

Here's two I took earlier.

Perhaps you could explain why they try to escape to the US in crowded leaky rafts through shark infested waters, slipping away at night when hopefully they won't be seen and blown out of the water by their wonderful government? 

Why their athletes and entertainers defect when they get a chance, and why more would do so if it didn't mean putting their extended families at risk?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
The ultimate goal of the Left is a one-world government, controlled by them.  If everyone else is disarmed, told only what they want them to know, dirt poor and helpless, all the better - like in North Korea.

I see, and these dirt poor? How will they generate the income to keep the left prosperous? Bearing in mind, it's seven and a half billion people.

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Here is a map of the 2008 election by county.  The red is the area where the majority of voters voted against Obama.

Ahh, so the red commies didn't like Obama? The one world government lefties who love red so much don't want Obama? Is that because he doesn't like red or has no red clothing?


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They were not the ones duped by Obama.  They were not the ones who knew what they would be getting and supported that.


What the fuck does that even mean??

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Normal America didn't and wouldn't vote for that person - only the easily led and the Left-wing Fascists would and did.

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By definition there's no such thing as a left wing fascist...Franco was a fascist. Guess who supported him and who he fought against?


Clue...Hitler supported him, and the Communists fought against him... Including George Orwell.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 01:02:14 AM
Perhaps you could explain why they try to escape to the US in crowded leaky rafts through shark infested waters, slipping away at night when hopefully they won't be seen and blown out of the water by their wonderful government? 

Cos they want to leave? I don't blame them, the US embargo on Cuba has made things more than inconvenient.

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Why their athletes and entertainers defect when they get a chance, and why more would do so if it didn't mean putting their extended families at risk?

See above..


You still haven't addressed NK and it's charms that the 'American left' wish to emulate.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
I see, and these dirt poor? How will they generate the income to keep the left prosperous? Bearing in mind, it's seven and a half billion people...

Do you see the Kim's and their cronies worrying about any of that?

The idiots that support the Leftist elites now - they would be murdered first.  Just like they were everywhere else the Hard Left has taken power.  So there won't need to be enough 'prosperity' to keep them fat and happy too


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
... Ahh, so the red commies didn't like Obama? The one world government lefties who love red so much don't want Obama? Is that because he doesn't like red or has no red clothing?...

As I'm sure you know, Red indicated Republican and Blue indicated Democrat.  Big Media started using those colors and references some years back.

Of course the D's should have been the Reds, but I guess that was just too on the nose.  Big Media wouldn't want to perpetuate that stereotype would they.


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
... What the fuck does that even mean?? ...

It means they knew exactly what he was - an American hating Marxist who would do his best to implement the Leftist agenda.  And destroy as much of the country as he could. 

Just what they've always wanted.  'We're going to fundamentally change this country'.  'We're the ones we've been waiting for'


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:06:17 AM
... By definition there's no such thing as a left wing fascist...Franco was a fascist. Guess who supported him and who he fought against?

Clue...Hitler supported him, and the Communists fought against him... Including George Orwell.

We've been over that too many times, as recently as yesterday.  No need to go back over it again right now

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 01:20:44 AM

We've been over that too many times, as recently as yesterday.  No need to go back over it again right now


We have, so presumably you accept that Franco was a right wing fascist who was supported by Hitler and both fought the Communists in the Spanish civil war?


Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
Cos they want to leave? I don't blame them, the US embargo on Cuba has made things more than inconvenient...

Oh yes, Cuba would be a true Workers Paradise, but for the US.

Never mind the Soviet Union propped them up for decades, and Canada, Europe, and the rest of Latin America trade with them and send tourists.  And foreign aid too it memory serves.


This excuse goes right along with ''Marxism hasn't really been tried yet'', ''it hasn't been properly implemented'', ''they didn't have the right people in charge'', or the new one - ''they weren't Marxists at all, they were actually 'right-wing' military dictatorships''. 

It's always something, so let's try it again.  Never mind 10's (100's?) of millions murdered and starved - that was either a misunderstanding, a miscalculation, or 'excess' - but for a good cause

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 01:24:30 AM

We have, so presumably you accept that Franco was a right wing fascist who was supported by Hitler and both fought the Communists in the Spanish civil war?

Both were Totalitarian police state advocates.  One wants to control the means of production outright through direct ownership, the other is happy for the private sector to own the means of production, as long as they control them and can tell them exactly what to do.  They both use similar tactics against their enemies.

They are pretty much the same.  You are describing power struggles by individual groups of elites that both wanted power.  They were fighting over the same thing, and had the same goals.  Of course the dupes doing the fighting weren't clued into this.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 01:29:02 AM
Oh yes, Cuba would be a true Workers Paradise, but for the US.

Never mind the Soviet Union propped them up for decades, and Canada, Europe, and the rest of Latin America trade with them and send tourists.  And foreign aid too it memory serves.


This excuse goes right along with ''Marxism hasn't really been tried yet'', ''it hasn't been properly implemented'', ''they didn't have the right people in charge'', or the new one - ''they weren't Marxists at all, they were actually 'right-wing' military dictatorships''. 

It's always something, so let's try it again.  Never mind 10's (100's?) of millions murdered and starved - that was either a misunderstanding, a miscalculation, or 'excess' - but for a good cause

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"

Go man, you're on a roll..

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 01:33:54 AM
Both were Totalitarian police state advocates.  One wants to control the means of production outright through direct ownership, the other is happy for the private sector to own the means of production, as long as they control them and can tell them exactly what to do.  They both use similar tactics against their enemies.

They are pretty much the same.  You are describing power struggles by individual groups of elites that both wanted power.  They were fighting over the same thing, and had the same goals.  Of course the dupes doing the fighting weren't clued into this.

Riiiiighhht.


pate

When I am not busy reading Jesus tracts and laughing at them, I am busy reading Marxist tracts and laughing at them:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/subject/quotes/index.htm

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

Honestly, that stuff is hilarious!

What ARE you smoking friend?

edit: love this one in particular for some reason: """"The bureaucracy is a circle from which no one can escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge."""  circular logic? I guess not in the TRUE form...


Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
The ultimate goal of the Left is a one-world government, controlled by them.  If everyone else is disarmed, told only what they want them to know, dirt poor and helpless, all the better - like in North Korea.

Most of the dipshits who support the Left have no idea what's in store for them, or for the rest of us, if power is ever permanently seized.


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That's the kind of stuff paranoid alarmists with typewriters and mimeograph machines were churning out in the Fifties. You would have been right at home back then, and I'm guessing would have been a big fan of the HUAC.

DanTSX

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 01:29:02 AM
Oh yes, Cuba would be a true Workers Paradise, but for the US.

Never mind the Soviet Union propped them up for decades, and Canada, Europe, and the rest of Latin America trade with them and send tourists.  And foreign aid too it memory serves.


This excuse goes right along with ''Marxism hasn't really been tried yet'', ''it hasn't been properly implemented'', ''they didn't have the right people in charge'', or the new one - ''they weren't Marxists at all, they were actually 'right-wing' military dictatorships''. 

It's always something, so let's try it again.  Never mind 10's (100's?) of millions murdered and starved - that was either a misunderstanding, a miscalculation, or 'excess' - but for a good cause

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"

But it will be different this time. :)

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
The ultimate goal of the Left is a one-world government, controlled by them. 

Even if that's true, the American Left is nothing but tofu sucking, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging wusses who wouldn't stand a chance against the Masons, Tri-Lateral Commission, Bilderbergers, the Bohemian Grove bunch, and all the rest of the contenders to lead the One World Government.  Heck, if the Left is such a threat to God and Country, why isn't Alex Jones stridently warning us about them every day? 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 02, 2014, 12:56:10 AM
I'm guessing here you understand; The 'American left' (Normal American chapter) have looked and continue to look with envious eyes to the rock n roll lifestyle enjoyed by the cool cats in NK who bask in the virtuous and liberating example of equality for all. Kim Jong Un like his equally equal father before him has no truck with elitism, subjugation, oppression, murdering of perceived (real or imagined) opponents, chronic poverty for the vast majority, hierarchical totalitarian despotic regimes or self detachment from the rest of the world other than China who are getting increasingly irritated with their petulant bastard half sibling.


I can't wait until the Left takes over so I can ride around in my luxurious personal rail car and jeer at the ideologically impure as they toil and starve in the re-education camps.

Quick Karl

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 02, 2014, 12:57:32 AM
Most of the dipshits who support the Left have no idea what's in store for them, or for the rest of us, if power is ever permanently seized.

Or do they know what's in store but, like the quintessential small-time restaurateur that caters to Italian mobsters that then shake him down for protection money to keep them from breaking his legs, do they think they will be "connected"?

I really believe that most of them say what they say, just to be assholes.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Quick Karl on November 02, 2014, 10:07:56 AM
Or do they know what's in store but, like the quintessential small-time restaurateur that caters to Italian mobsters that then shake him down for protection money to keep them from breaking his legs, do they think they will be "connected"?

I really believe that most of them say what they say, just to be assholes.


You also believe Phil the beard is a pillar of society; which is fine if you believe 15 year old girls should be married off..

Doesn't really say a lot about your judgement of character does it?

VtaGeezer

Full-on Mussolini???  !!  :o  You mean like he's gonna take our guns? And make us eat arugula?  And impose Sharia?  And invalidate the Constitution?  And make Nairobi the new capitol?

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