The Rise of Londonistan and Paristan

[jazmunda]

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

I think it is frightening to read that 1 in 6 French citizens polled support ISIS. 7% of Brits polled supported them too.

http://www.newsweek.com/twice-many-british-muslims-fighting-isis-armed-forces-265865

"There are now more than twice as many British Muslims fighting for Islamic State than there are serving in the British armed forces, according to a British Member of Parliament (MP)."

It would be interesting to know the % of US citizen that support ISIS. Anyone seen any polls?

[albrecht]

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

I think it is frightening to read that 1 in 6 French citizens polled support ISIS. 7% of Brits polled supported them too.

http://www.newsweek.com/twice-many-british-muslims-fighting-isis-armed-forces-265865

"There are now more than twice as many British Muslims fighting for Islamic State than there are serving in the British armed forces, according to a British Member of Parliament (MP)."

It would be interesting to know the % of US citizen that support ISIS. Anyone seen any polls?

I haven't seen any polls of US citizens about their support for ISIS. European countries have imported a 5th Column due to their failed immigration policies and policies that ghettoized immigrants instead of assimilating them and limiting the amount of immigrants and from what countries. Granted much of it is from former colonies so there is a bit of "white guilt" involved but it is a mess that they are already regretting.

[Quick Karl]

If statistics like these aren't proof that the prevailing social and political philosophies are FUCKED, then the world is just stupid, and people deserve what happens.

[PB the Deplorable]

The Kinks - Living on a Thin Line

[PB the Deplorable]

Now that the southern border is more open than ever, and anyone from anywhere can just walk across, I doubt there is a terrorist group of any decent size anywhere that hasn't planted their cells here.  The larger ones almost have to be working with the Mexican narco-terrorists Obama and Holder handed out guns to.

Our first move after 9/11 should have been to take control of that border

Thanks to Barrack Obama, the Democrats who want illegal alien votes, George W Bush, the DC Republicans and their paymasters who want the cheap labor, our enemies are here, making plans, buying supplies, waiting for the right time.

Our greedy grasping 'leaders' and their toadies would look good in the FEMA camp uniforms

[Quick Karl]

Now that the southern border is more open than ever, and anyone from anywhere can just walk across, I doubt there is a terrorist group of any decent size anywhere that hasn't planted their cells here.  The larger ones almost have to be working with the Mexican narco-terrorists Obama and Holder handed out guns to.

Our first move after 9/11 should have been to take control of that border

Thanks to Barrack Obama, the Democrats who want illegal alien votes, George W Bush, the DC Republicans and their paymasters who want the cheap labor, our enemies are here, making plans, buying supplies, waiting for the right time.

Our greedy grasping 'leaders' and their toadies would look good in the FEMA camp uniforms

So who is our real enemy?

It is your neighbor that will not vote or fight with you but will, in fact, fight against you, because you hold a different social belief, ignoring the fact that the country is being raped, while blaming you for it - the kind of people that would watch an old woman being beaten by thugs because they're too fucking scared to intervene, and they'll say that is the police's job...

Remember where to aim when the fireworks start.

[Yorkshire pud]

So who is our real enemy?

It is your neighbor that will not vote or fight with you but will, in fact, fight against you, because you hold a different social belief, ignoring the fact that the country is being raped, while blaming you for it - the kind of people that would watch an old woman being beaten by thugs because they're too fucking scared to intervene, and they'll say that is the police's job...

Remember where to aim when the fireworks start.

Blah blah blah blah...You had your opportunity, you even opened a thread hoping it would happen, but you didn't attend the American Spring none event (like millions of others) who 'left it to others'. How can you sit there complaining about how other people won't stand up and be counted when you can't be arsed to do the same. Get off your fat arse instead of starting thread after thread moaning and groaning about how fucking wrong the world is; do something productive.

[jazmunda]

Pud, is the rise of radical Islam in the UK something that is noticeable or just scaremongering?

[Yorkshire pud]

Pud, is the rise of radical Islam in the UK something that is noticeable or just scaremongering?

It's in the news every day Jaz. Usually connected to the stuff going on in Syria/ Iraq etc. We have certain cities and towns in the UK which have a high proportion of immigrants descended from SE Asia. Bradford, Birmingham, Leeds, Rochdale, Bury, Oldham, Bolton, spring to mind.

A small proportion of usually young males get all excited about watching videos on the net, and how their 'brothers' are fighting the good fight in a country they know nothing about. The commonality is the religious aspect. They get a flight to Turkey, and go over the border into Syria. The biggest fear the security services have is these individuals will return to the UK and manage to evade arrest, but able to use their new found skills on UK soil. Naturally the security services aren't saying what they know about who, and are keeping their powder dry. (Which makes a nonsense of the thread on here 'identifying' the murderer of Foley)

There's a feeling of a sea change though, it's not spoken of, just a feeling (Several have mentioned it to me, so I know it isn't my imagination) that tolerance is waning. I think the MP's will be passing legislature (because of the weight of opinion) that will effectively 'unstate' any of the returning thugs. Essentially putting them back on the next airliner back to the ME, without a passport or anything to identify them as British. I wouldn't have a problem with that, but it doesn't help the poor sods who are being murdered and displaced by these thugs in Iraq and Syria.

My fear is that it could precipitate the rise of some very nasty confrontations in certain places, and it will literally fall between anyone who is white (and in some cases black) and those who look to be from the Indian sub continent. I've said it before, but I live literally across the road from a young Muslim family who are lovely. Two gorgeous daughters, and parents who are an example to many parents. He's a chiropodist and his wife is a pharmacist I think. 

At the opposite end, I've known many white thugs over the years who I would gladly post to a remote island in the North sea.

[jazmunda]

It's in the news every day Jaz. Usually connected to the stuff going on in Syria/ Iraq etc. We have certain cities and towns in the UK which have a high proportion of immigrants descended from SE Asia. Bradford, Birmingham, Leeds, Rochdale, Bury, Oldham, Bolton, spring to mind.

A small proportion of usually young males get all excited about watching videos on the net, and how their 'brothers' are fighting the good fight in a country they know nothing about. The commonality is the religious aspect. They get a flight to Turkey, and go over the border into Syria. The biggest fear the security services have is these individuals will return to the UK and manage to evade arrest, but able to use their new found skills on UK soil. Naturally the security services aren't saying what they know about who, and are keeping their powder dry. (Which makes a nonsense of the thread on here 'identifying' the murderer of Foley)

There's a feeling of a sea change though, it's not spoken of, just a feeling (Several have mentioned it to me, so I know it isn't my imagination) that tolerance is waning. I think the MP's will be passing legislature (because of the weight of opinion) that will effectively 'unstate' any of the returning thugs. Essentially putting them back on the next airliner back to the ME, without a passport or anything to identify them as British. I wouldn't have a problem with that, but it doesn't help the poor sods who are being murdered and displaced by these thugs in Iraq and Syria.

My fear is that it could precipitate the rise of some very nasty confrontations in certain places, and it will literally fall between anyone who is white (and in some cases black) and those who look to be from the Indian sub continent. I've said it before, but I live literally across the road from a young Muslim family who are lovely. Two gorgeous daughters, and parents who are an example to many parents. He's a chiropodist and his wife is a pharmacist I think. 

At the opposite end, I've known many white thugs over the years who I would gladly post to a remote island in the North sea.

We are in the same boat here in terms of young disaffected muslim boys heading over to Syria to fight and train. The authorities here are worried that they will come back here and take their training to the streets. Some of it is scaremongering but most of it is a very legit terror concern.

Just the other week the 7 year old son of an Aussie Jihadist in Syria was photographed holding the severed head of a Syrian rebel.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/barbaric-nature-of-isil-on-display-with-photos-of-boy-holding-decapitated-head-says-prime-minister-tony-abbott-20140811-3dh8q.html

I too know some very moderate muslims who have assimilated well into Aussie society. Privately I know they are appalled by radical Islam but they are not very public about it which could be a cultural thing.

[FightTheFuture]

I first began traveling to the UK in the 70s. It was exactly as I imagined; lots of pasty-white people with bad teeth, that spoke a funny language.

Over the last 15-20 years, I noticed a significant change as I traveled there.

My last trip was just a few years ago. I flew into Manchester, and if I had not known better, I would have sworn I was back in the Middle East.

[FightTheFuture]

We are in the same boat here in terms of young disaffected muslim boys heading over to Syria to fight and train. The authorities here are worried that they will come back here and take their training to the streets. Some of it is scaremongering but most of it is a very legit terror concern.

Just the other week the 7 year old son of an Aussie Jihadist in Syria was photographed holding the severed head of a Syrian rebel.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/barbaric-nature-of-isil-on-display-with-photos-of-boy-holding-decapitated-head-says-prime-minister-tony-abbott-20140811-3dh8q.html

I too know some very moderate muslims who have assimilated well into Aussie society. Privately I know they are appalled by radical Islam but they are not very public about it which could be a cultural thing.

I have great faith in the Australians. I think they'll get to the bottom of this problem and they won't allow Australia to descend to the level of migratory unrest that we now see so pervasively across Europe

[PB the Deplorable]

... We have certain cities and towns in the UK which have a high proportion of immigrants descended from SE Asia...

... There's a feeling of a sea change though, it's not spoken of, just a feeling (Several have mentioned it to me, so I know it isn't my imagination) that tolerance is waning. I think the MP's will be passing legislature (because of the weight of opinion) that will effectively 'unstate' any of the returning thugs...

You mean South Asia - India and Pakistan - not South East Asia (although you probably have immigrants from there as well).

The Europeans have considerably more Muslims as a percentage of the population than we do here in the US.  It appears that once they reach a certain percentage of the population, these people become much more demanding, aggressive, and violent in their new countries.  Any fitting that description should be deported, not just returning jihadi's.


On another note, one of the sisters of those Boston Marathon bomber shits was arrested yesterday for threatening to 'put a bomb on' someone.  Why is anyone from this scummy family still here?  It was shown they weren't 'refugees' when we found out they'd been going back and forth between here and Chechnya several times, and thus lied on their immigration documents. 

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/boston-suspects-sister-charged-in-ny-bomb-threat

[Yorkshire pud]

I first began traveling to the UK in the 70s. It was exactly as I imagined; lots of pasty-white people with bad teeth, that spoke a funny language.

Over the last 15-20 years, I noticed a significant change as I traveled there.

My last trip was just a few years ago. I flew into Manchester, and if I had not known better, I would have sworn I was back in the Middle East.

Funny language? That would be principally English then.....

There is a sizable Jewish population in Manchester, I suppose that's what you're referring to.

[Bart Ell]

There is a sizable Jewish population in Manchester

There is also a woman with a horse in her house, Tattoo Stan, Auntie Nora - who farted for 5 minutes, Uncle Alf the cobbler and the mental woman who walks around with a doll in a pram. What do they have to do with language? You tell me.

[FightTheFuture]

Funny language? That would be principally English then.....

There is a sizable Jewish population in Manchester, I suppose that's what you're referring to.

Yeah, all those Jewish chicks in hijabs. Go figure.


Funny language = cockney accent

[albrecht]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28951612
Child sex rings (non-Savile and celebrity variety) ignored due to "political  correctness."

[Yorkshire pud]

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28951612
Child sex rings (non-Savile and celebrity variety) ignored due to "political  correctness."

And you know the tragic thing about it? Everyone who should have known, knew it was going on...This story isn't finished by a long way. The Radio, and TV 'toughy' journos are being like terriers with a bone. What is also tragic is that the local Police and Crime Commissioner who was in charge of Children's services in the council concerned before standing down in that role is refusing to resign as PCC. Frankly resignation is too good, he and many like him should be prosecuted for a dereliction of duty. This has gone as far as the police too; no doubt officers back then are now higher ranked and perhaps in other forces in different parts of the country; they too should be investigated about their dereliction of duty.

[Yorkshire pud]

Yeah, all those Jewish chicks in hijabs. Go figure.


Funny language = cockney accent

Oh, in London yeah...We don't sound like that further north. Certainly not in Manchester.

[albrecht]

And you know the tragic thing about it? Everyone who should have known, knew it was going on...This story isn't finished by a long way. The Radio, and TV 'toughy' journos are being like terriers with a bone. What is also tragic is that the local Police and Crime Commissioner who was in charge of Children's services in the council concerned before standing down in that role is refusing to resign as PCC. Frankly resignation is too good, he and many like him should be prosecuted for a dereliction of duty. This has gone as far as the police too; no doubt officers back then are now higher ranked and perhaps in other forces in different parts of the country; they too should be investigated about their dereliction of duty.

What is even scarier is all these revelations of child sex abuse rings and cover-ups (everywhere from BBC with Savile, Catholic churches, Thatcher government, immigrant-run sex rings ignored, care homes, Dutroux affair, etc) make the theories of rich pedofiles "running everything" conspiracy of the Alex Jones type seem true!

[paladin1991]

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that tolerance is waning. I think the MP's will be passing legislature (because of the weight of opinion) that will effectively 'unstate' any of the returning thugs. Essentially putting them back on the next airliner back to the ME, without a passport or anything to identify them as British.



At the opposite end, I've known many white thugs over the years who I would gladly post to a remote island in the North sea.

That's an interesting bit.  Unstating persons.  Very nice move.  I like that.  Still has that ring of 'British Civility.' 

Thugs?  We're 'tasting the rainbow' over here.  Thugs of all descriptions who do nothing but prey on civilians, like cats with mice or worse...much worse.  Domestic terrorists is how I liken them.  I don't even see them as human beings anymore.  Just targets of opportunity with the timing to be of their choosing. 

[albrecht]

Mohammed most popular name in Oslo. Jørgen Ouren of SSB said to NRK: “It is very exciting.” Mr.Ouren is an idiot. It is not "exciting" but scary and pitiful.
http://www.thelocal.no/20140828/mohammed-is-most-popular-name-in-oslo

Mohammed is most popular in Britain.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/14/mohammed-retakes-top-spot-in-english-baby-names/

[MV/Liberace!]

Now that the southern border is more open than ever, and anyone from anywhere can just walk across, I doubt there is a terrorist group of any decent size anywhere that hasn't planted their cells here.  The larger ones almost have to be working with the Mexican narco-terrorists Obama and Holder handed out guns to.

that's a little difficult for me to believe. 

the financial well being of the cartels depends on a porous border between the US and mexico.  the second there's a terrorist attack perpetrated by someone who is revealed to have crossed that border, public outrage will guarantee it's locked up so tight that a gnat can't cross.  if anything, it's in the cartel's interest to ensure this doesn't happen.

[Quick Karl]

...the financial well being of the cartels depends on a porous border between the US and mexico.  the second there's a terrorist attack perpetrated by someone who is revealed to have crossed that border, public outrage will guarantee it's locked up so tight that a gnat can't cross.  if anything, it's in the cartel's interest to ensure this doesn't happen.

We'll see, said the Zen Master...

[pate]

The rise of Paristan, I've known about for more than a few years...  I worked in a French restaurant awhile back;  I believe I was one of the few non French nationals in the place...

Anyhow, this was at least 8 to 9 years ago that I worked there, and I heard stories from the French ex-patriots about zones in and around Paris (and other towns) where the firefighters, police and emergency people would not go.  Whether that was at the time 'official' I am not sure.  This is from ex-pats quite a few years ago...

So to say a 'rise' of Parisistan...  Maybe, you are reporting on old news...

Onto the other half.  Londonistan.

I've seen stories on the 'tubes about the Islamification of the UK, rise of Sharia Law or a push towards it...

I know nothing about it.  Not to say that it is not happening.

Pardon, my pun, but the Parisistan might well be a fait accompli.

I am not so sure about the Londonistan....

(as an aside I keep trying to type Londinisium or somesuch...  Is that Latin or something?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqr59UbBsU

-edit-

So, I got to thinking about it.  France won it's (its?) war back in, like, 732 or something at the Battle of Tours under Charles the Hammer (not to be confused with is son, or grandson 'the Great')...  And many years later (1683), a Polish king apparently did something similar in Vienna (I know Polish king in Austria?  Frankly {look into the etymology of that word 'frankly'} I don't believe it either...) I digress parenthetically, long and short:  Britannia wouldn't have had a kingdom to divest post-WWII if it weren't for those two events I don't think...

Londinistan?  Forsooth, those battles were fought long ago!  Have no fear!

[FightTheFuture]

This says a LOT:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/15/Muhammad-IS-Britains-Most-Popular-Boys-Name

[Quick Karl]

This says a LOT:

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/15/Muhammad-IS-Britains-Most-Popular-Boys-Name

In an obscure way, when London is ruled by Muslims, it will serve the English people right - it's what they deserve for burying their heads in the sand in return for their socialist handouts for so long...

Of course, they will look to America's young to sacrifice their lives to bail them out of their mess, again...

[Tarbaby]

MV: I am curious to know if you agree with QuickKarl

[PB the Deplorable]

MV: I am curious to know if you agree with QuickKarl

Isn't that's what the 'M' stands for.. ?

[Quick Karl]

MV: I am curious to know if you agree with QuickKarl

Tarbaby you haven't challenged a single opinion I have posted with any rational argument, whatsoever, but decided to jump in (on a few other threads) and start the name-calling out of the clear blue sky, because you think you are a genius.

Now you are asking MV to finish your battles for you...

I wager MV disagrees with me, but he has never resorted to 6th grade tactics in doing so - thank God, or Allah, or the black magic that created the big bang and all the matter in the known Universe out of absolutely nothing in the middle of an absolutely nowhere that didn't exist beforehand, just because it wanted to...