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Shrinking Arctic Ice Prompts Drastic Change in National Geographic Atlas

Started by missing transmission, August 19, 2014, 07:13:35 PM




"The shrinking of the Arctic ice sheet in the upcoming 10th edition of the National Geographic Atlas of the World is one of the most striking changes in the publication's history, geographers say.

"The reduction in multiyear iceâ€"commonly defined as ice that has survived for two summersâ€"is so noticeable compared with previous editions that National Geographic Geographer Juan José Valdés calls it "the biggest visible change other than the breakup of the U.S.S.R."

"As the ocean heats up due to global warming, Arctic sea ice has been locked in a downward spiral. Since the late 1970s, the ice has retreated by 12 percent per decade, worsening after 2007, according to NASA. May 2014 represented the third lowest extent of sea ice during that month in the satellite record, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC)."
Source National Geographic

In addition to that a new study from JPL and the University of Washington Seattle looked at how much snow topped our arctic ice and came to the conclusion that we are seeing accumulations of between one-third to half as much as 50 years ago.
Source/Abstract - Journal of Geophysical Research

Quick Karl

Honest question - what is your suggested solution? Have you disconnected from the electrical grid? Do you bicycle everywhere you go?

Lets hear some workable solutions that everyone can agree upon!

Bart Ell

Don't they watch Seinfeld?
Of course it shrinks, it is always in the water.

jazmunda

Quote from: Bart Ell on August 19, 2014, 08:03:22 PM
Don't they watch Seinfeld?
Of course it shrinks, it is always in the water.

Like a frightened turtle. Classic bit.

http://youtu.be/BEnKLhi83J8

Little Hater

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

- Washington Post, 1922


Quick Karl

Lets hear some workable solutions that everyone can agree upon!

Quote from: Little Hater on August 20, 2014, 11:17:31 AM
The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a ........encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

- Washington Post, 1922

The warming phenomena observed in 1922 proved to be indicative only of a local event in Spitzbergen, not a trend applicable to the Arctic as a whole. For more detail see here And Here
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As for solutions Scientific American had this to say in 2007
Similar thoughts can be found from The Union of Concerned Scientists and National Geographic



pate

Y'all are all worried about who can pee farther with the "stronger" stream (that "stronger" stream is a subjective measure...)

Back in the day we had a 'judge', she examined evidence in depth after the 'debate' wuz over, and rendered judgement, but she did it nice.  I always wuz the wiener...

But then, she delivered the verdict in a personal fashun, not all Pubic on the Fake Book...

I sometimes wundurd if she was beein' nice, but didn't cry about it... (at least not out loud....)

You damn kids better git offen my lawn!

Kelt

At this point it's probably too late to reverse warming, so buying property that ISN'T in a flood plain might be a good idea.


Learning to grow your own food and becoming somewhat self-sufficient might also be quite clever.








Zoo

Quote from: Kelt on February 04, 2015, 10:23:41 AM
At this point it's probably too late to reverse warming, so buying property that ISN'T in a flood plain might be a good idea.


Learning to grow your own food and becoming somewhat self-sufficient might also be quite clever.


It is one of the best ways to protest. To be self-sufficient is saying that I can take care of me and mine with little or no help from you big brother. But when they make illegal to grow your own food or collect water things have gone to far in my book!!1

The General

That's it, I'm convinced. 
See you guys, I'm moving to another planet.
This one's fucked.

Kelt

Quote from: The General on February 04, 2015, 01:40:09 PM
That's it, I'm convinced. 
See you guys, I'm moving to another planet.
This one's fucked.


Well, I've heard good things about Uranus...




Gd5150

Ok so for arguments sake let's assume there is warming. Is there a solution that doesn't involve bigger government, more taxes, and more Communism? Thought so.

Catsmile

Quote from: Gd5150 on February 04, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Ok so for arguments sake let's assume there is warming. Is there a solution that doesn't involve bigger government, more taxes, and more Communism? Thought so.

Refuckingtardation. Thought so.
I won't waste my time trying to educate Cuntservatives.
Seems you know it all, already.

Kelt

Quote from: Gd5150 on February 04, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Ok so for arguments sake let's assume there is warming. Is there a solution that doesn't involve bigger government, more taxes, and more Communism? Thought so.


Equally, for argument's sake, let's assume bigger government, more taxes, and 'more communism (whatever that means) turned out to be the only way to reverse catastrophic warming....  would it be preferable to just go, "Ah well" and do nothing?




aldousburbank

Quote from: Gd5150 on February 04, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Ok so for arguments sake let's assume there is warming. Is there a solution that doesn't involve bigger government, more taxes, and more Communism? Thought so.
Well, if we would all just die.

Quote from: Gd5150 on February 04, 2015, 05:06:45 PM
Ok so for arguments sake let's assume there is warming. Is there a solution that doesn't involve bigger government, more taxes, and more Communism? Thought so.
The key is to blame it on gay people, Muslems, immigrants and atheists.  Conservatives would be all over that shit.

aldousburbank

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on February 04, 2015, 07:54:07 PM
The key is to blame it on gay people, Muslems, immigrants and atheists.  Conservatives would be all over that shit.
Fucking RCD
Heh


albrecht

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
Is it any wonder that people, currently shoveling snow out of their driveways from another epic storm, question Al Gore Jr and the "warming" crowd? Besides the leaked emails we always get these stories and explanations that data needs to be "adjusted." Of course always adjusted to fit the narrative desired.
I guess this goes for economic numbers also (recall how many times, often months later, they come out and "readjust" the numbers for economic statistics.)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/gallup-ceo-i-may-suddenly-disappear-for-telling-the-truth-about-obama-unemployment-rate-video/

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on February 08, 2015, 08:00:46 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
Is it any wonder that people, currently shoveling snow out of their driveways from another epic storm, question Al Gore Jr and the "warming" crowd? Besides the leaked emails we always get these stories and explanations that data needs to be "adjusted." Of course always adjusted to fit the narrative desired.
I guess this goes for economic numbers also (recall how many times, often months later, they come out and "readjust" the numbers for economic statistics.)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/02/gallup-ceo-i-may-suddenly-disappear-for-telling-the-truth-about-obama-unemployment-rate-video/


You're overcompensating for your own "shrinkage"...

albrecht

Quote from: NowhereInTime on February 08, 2015, 08:18:52 AM

You're overcompensating for your own "shrinkage"...
Must be the "warming" that results in cold and hence whatever shrinkage :D !
But, obviously, it is expected for the leftists to resort to juvenile ad-hominems and not discuss why "adjusting" data- whether in weather records or in economic data released for political purposes- is ok or a good thing. At least one would expect some reasoning for the "adjustments" but, of course, simple insults are the easier way to go. If the numbers don't work for the agenda simply cook them a bit or change them later! (And the so-called progressives complain about Wall St or Enron!)

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