Rick Perry in Trouble

[yumyumtree]

Mark Levin spent a big part of his show in this today. Texas governor Rick Perry( who may also run for pres. again in 2016) is now in trouble. As Levin tells it, he refused to fund something that Travis Co. Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg was in charge of unless she resigned. It seems that she behaved badly when stopped for DUI. I looked up a YouTube video of this and it's pretty disgraceful. I don't blame Perry for wanting her to resign. If she had any character, it seems she would have resigned voluntarily by now. Only in the crazy world of Texas politics could this turn into a thing.

Austin used to be at the top of my list if places in Texas to live if I moved to Texas, because if the blues dance scene, but I'm actually rethinking it now.

[HAL 9000]

Mark Levin spent a big part of his show in this today. Texas governor Rick Perry( who may also run for pres. again in 2016) is now in trouble. As Levin tells it, he refused to fund something that Travis Co. Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg was in charge of unless she resigned. It seems that she behaved badly when stopped for DUI. I looked up a YouTube video of this and it's pretty disgraceful. I don't blame Perry for wanting her to resign. If she had any character, it seems she would have resigned voluntarily by now. Only in the crazy world of Texas politics could this turn into a thing.

The woman is a complete a$$. Here are 3 videos which give a pretty good picture of what the woman is like. One is a short TV news report summarizing the story, another is the dash cam video of her failing her DUI tests, and the last is video taken inside the jail and her obnoxious behavior. It's amazing how she could remain in office.

I despise embedded YT video, so here are just the links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxX-qhJTfkI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrxsCH_p1oc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7y7oJ266qI

[RealCool Daddio]

According to the Houston Chronical, probably the biggest of the old Conservative dailys, Perry could be looking at 99 years in the slammer:

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Perry-indicted-on-two-felony-charges-5691872.php?

[Quick Karl]

Austin is a liberal shitpool wherein assholes stuck in a time warp endeavor to mime the hippies of 1960's Greenwich Village replete with dirty clothes and those stupid fucking Dr. Seuss Rastafarian hats - the rest of Texas is pretty awesome actually, if you enjoy the company of pretty good people!

Texas will be the line in the sand when California and/or Illinois or some other liberal shithole collapses and starts asking Texans to pay for it...

This "indictment" is a schoolyard political ploy that taxpayers will foot the bill for against their will, designed to appeal to the uninformed parasite voters that the democrat machine relies on to wrest power and destroy the United States.

But when you're a democrat, who cares about spending other people's money, right?

Every single community in the United States that is controlled by "liberal democrats" is a shithole wherein the people's standard of living gets lower, and lower, and lower, unless you are one of the rich liberals - period.

[albrecht]

The whole situation is almost comical if not so dangerous. We are lucky that the alcoholic DA didn't hit a school-bus or somebody on that busy road as she was swilling her vodka. As mentioned by others the whole thing became political because the Travis Co DA gets to oversee the governor, legislature, etc on something since the capital is in Travis Co. Now Travis Co is fairly liberal and so votes for a DA of the Democratic bent. The problem is after the drunken DA threatened, spat at, insulted officers during her arrest and booking if she would step-down, as any moral person would, it would not be the voters but the governor who would appoint the new DA. And that would be Perry.

What is crazy is when this was going on Travis Co was under a huge "anti drunk driving" push. Advertisements, no refusal weekends, vampiristic forced blood draws, so it was seen as unbecoming for the DA who is in charge of persecuting drunk drivers could get away with having a half-empty bottle of vodka, open, in her car and she drives around drunk. And the 72 bottles of Ciroq Vodka bought at just one liquor store last year didn't make it seem that she had her problem "under control." So she worked out a sweet-heart deal (I'm not sure who with, did she, as DA, negotiate the "deal" with her the drunk?), almost immediately, to plead guilty and then serve time. And then claim that she took some rehab or some such so she could keep her expensive pension and salary, but, most importantly her job. From there Perry tried to cut off funds and other shenanigans, I recall. I doubt he will get the "huge penalty" people talk about or, if he does, does like Tom DeLay, it will be quashed on appeal and the Travis Co DA tends to over-reach when going after political opponents.

Keep in mind how nice the officers were being threatened, insulted, etc. If she was a "youth" or a teenager with that attitude you don't think at least one of them would break out a stungun or give a quick jab with a nightstick. But it is nice to be the DA. You can drink as much as you want and drive where-ever you wish, and cut deals.

[WildCard]

Every single community in the United States that is controlled by "liberal democrats" is a shithole wherein the people's standard of living gets lower, and lower, and lower, unless you are one of the rich liberals - period.

Bullshit.
Most of the hits I got from,"standard of living red states vs blue states", were liberal sites, but
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331097/red-state-blue-state-william-voegeli
"If people in the blue states are healthier, wealthier, wiser, prettier, funnier, and generally better off than people in the red states, why is Blue America growing so much more slowly than Red America?"

[Zoo]

No matter if you are Democrat or Republican this shows how much they do whatever they want too. This is because we as Americans hold nobody in office responsible. If he is found guilty(like that is going to happen) I hope he goes to jail and every other politician that does something illegal!!1

[VtaGeezer]

The DA was charged and convicted, and spent time in jail.  TX law doesn't require her to resign. Regardless of motive, Perry was abusing his authority in a serious way and his veto action went far beyond affecting only the DA.  He didn't simply threaten, he acted. This is more serious and more blatant than the silly stuff that conservatives rant about daily from Obama. Perry should be impeached and convicted.  As an elected official abusing his power, his crime was far worse than hers.  Besides, if QK is whining about it, it must be a good thing.

[VtaGeezer]

According to the Houston Chronical, probably the biggest of the old Conservative dailys, Perry could be looking at 99 years in the slammer:

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Perry-indicted-on-two-felony-charges-5691872.php?

He's so pretty that he'll have lots of protection inside.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

the people's standard of living gets lower, and lower, and lower, unless you are one of the rich liberals

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  This only started when those goddamn liberals came along.

That's some pretty deep thinking there, pig-anus.  You ought to write yourself a little red book.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Regardless of motive, Perry was abusing his authority in a serious way and his veto action went far beyond affecting only the DA.  He didn't simply threaten, he acted. This is more serious and more blatant than the silly stuff that conservatives rant about daily from Obama...

The Texas governor has the line item veto.  He exercised his legal authority.  This veto is about Rick Perry believing this particular person should not be managing the Travis County Public Integrity Unit, and holding up their funding until she leaves.  If she weren't a Democrat, she'd be long gone by now.

But somehow the story isn't about this drunk bullying official, it's about trying to criminalize the person trying to push her out.  I think we all know that if the party labels were switched, the 'grand jury', and the phony 'journalists' would be be going after her instead of him.  I'm surprised they haven't made this part of their 'war on women' bullshit narrative.  Probably just need to give it time.   


And you think that "is more serious and more blatant than the silly stuff that conservatives rant about daily from Obama"?


More serious than running guns to the narco-terrorists in Mexico?

More serious than spying on the Associated Press?

More serious than ignoring the laws regarding the border and immigration?

More serious than having his peons destroy email and other evidence requested by Federal judges Congressional oversight committees?

More serious than siccing the IRS clods on his political opponents?

More serious than lying to we the people almost constantly?

More serious than leaving Iraq with no security measures in place?



Yeah, all 'silly stuff'.

Much of the above is impeachable.  Rick Perry has done nothing wrong.

How is a governor exercising his line item veto even remotely ''more serious and more blatant'' than, say, a president ignoring federal judges, or ruling by decree, or ignoring the laws he doesn't like?

Because Big Media says so?  Oh ok, never mind.

[NowhereInTime]

The Texas governor has the line item veto.  He exercised his legal authority.

And you think that "is more serious and more blatant than the silly stuff that conservatives rant about daily from Obama"?


More serious than running guns to the narco-terrorists in Mexico?

More serious than spying on the Associated Press?

More serious than ignoring the laws regarding the border and immigration?

More serious than having his peons destroy email and other evidence requested by Federal judges Congressional oversight committees?

More serious than siccing the IRS clods on his political opponents?

More serious than lying to we the people almost constantly?

More serious than leaving Iraq with no security measures in place?



Yeah, all 'silly stuff'.

Much of the above is impeachable.  Rick Perry has done nothing wrong.

How is a governor exercising his line item veto even remotely ''more serious and more blatant'' than, say, a president ignoring federal judges, or ruling by decree, or ignoring the laws he doesn't like?

Because Big Media says so?  Oh ok, never mind.

Paper*Boy, mi amigo, mi compadre.  Breathe.  It's Rick Perry, do you really care? 
Even though a Grand Jury indicted him, do you really think he'll be convicted?

[VtaGeezer]

How is a governor exercising his line item veto even remotely ''more serious and more blatant'' than, say, a president ignoring federal judges, or ruling by decree, or ignoring the laws he doesn't like?

Because he did it as extortion.

If any of the rightwingers' litany against Obama was serious, he's have been impeached and/or the officials involved indicted. The right haven't even come close...because their lawyers KNOW it's all crap.  Wise up.

[PB the Deplorable]

Paper*Boy, mi amigo, mi compadre.  Breathe.  It's Rick Perry, do you really care? 
Even though a Grand Jury indicted him, do you really think he'll be convicted?

You know what?  I'm tired of the Liberal/Left bullshit tactics.  The one sided media.  The clods that eat it up. 

[PB the Deplorable]

Because he did it as extortion...

Wow, that's a reach and a half.  He gave his reason for doing so, and right or wrong it sounds legitimate to me.  But let's say it is - a governor with a line item veto can exercise it for any reason.  Just like a US President can veto a law for any reason. They do so for politics all the time.  Nothing new here.  It's not a crime.

This is about the Dem's inside the government working with their Big Media allies outside the government to take out a potential presidential candidate they don't like before he even gets started.  His message would be smothered with constant questions about 'the indictment'.  If you are looking for a criminal act, instead of extortion by the governor, how about collusion on the part of Texas Democrat officials and their cronies in Big Media to interfere with an election campaign (see, I can play these games too).


It is endlessly amazing how Democrat crimes - no matter how large - are covered up and dismissed by Big Media, yet any little thing a Republican official does that can be is twisted and amplified.  This is a classic example of it (twisting and amplifying a non-crime).  I really wonder how so many otherwise intelligent people became programmed to automatically believe this stuff everytime it's spoon fed to them.

... If any of the rightwingers' litany against Obama was serious, he's have been impeached and/or the officials involved indicted. The right haven't even come close...because their lawyers KNOW it's all crap.  Wise up.

Do you understand how politics works, even a little bit?  Let's say the House impeaches Obama.  What then, they don't have the votes in the Senate to convict.

And the the media would of course be siding with Obama, and weighing in every day.

So what happens?  Obama walks around smugly, saying it was all just politics, that the evidence didn't hold up in the Senate.  And then he feels more free than before to do whatever the hell he wants.  The Rs - and the country - would be in a worse position than before.

The people mostly talking about Impeachment are the Ds.  They think they would benefit from impeachment proceedings by riling up their base - and that would translate into more campaign contributions and getting more of their people out to vote in the off-year election.  Call it another cynical ploy.


What the Republicans in DC should have been doing all along is building their case against Obama - but instead they mostly they say nothing, allowing the pundits to carry their message.  Their strategy is to keep their heads down and win the Senate back in November due to the voters tiring of Obama and his disastrous policies, rather than taking him on and come out potentially worse for doing so.  I don't agree with it, but that's their strategy

[NowhereInTime]

You know what?  I'm tired of the Liberal/Left bullshit tactics.  The one sided media.  The clods that eat it up.

Yeah.  So am I.  Really sick of my e-mail box filled with candidates begging for cash.
However, I can tell you, I really care not one whit more for Right Wing Media and the clods who mindlessly regurgitate it.
I'm not saying that to score a point, either.  I am really, to death, sick of going to a bar or party where one or two guys, empowered by finely brewed malt and barley, start blathering whatever they've been Hannitized into believing this week. Makes everyone uncomfortable.
I would really love a true debate on philosophies.

[yumyumtree]

That thing she was heading up is called the Public Integrity Unit. Irony, anyone?

The restraint chair in the one video puts me a little in mind of the thing they used to transport Hannibal Lector in in the Silence of the Lambs.

I think that this is a good example if the arrogance that a lot of people take on once they get power. Usually you see it in movie stars like Alec Baldwin, but sometimes political types too. Laws and rules are for the little people.

Finally, how about a round of applause for law enforcement(most of whom behave themselves despite what you see in the media)and other first responders and ER personnel. See what they put up with on a daily basis.

[PB the Deplorable]

Yeah.  So am I.  Really sick of my e-mail box filled with candidates begging for cash.
However, I can tell you, I really care not one whit more for Right Wing Media and the clods who mindlessly regurgitate it.
I'm not saying that to score a point, either.  I am really, to death, sick of going to a bar or party where one or two guys, empowered by finely brewed malt and barley, start blathering whatever they've been Hannitized into believing this week. Makes everyone uncomfortable.
I would really love a true debate on philosophies.

I actually agree with you on some of this.  To an extent.

The Left isn't the only side who have people simply regurgitating what they've been told.  They aren't the only ones who bore and embarrass others in settings where politics are best left at the door.  There are plenty of low information and downright stupid people among the Republicans too, and even among Conservatives. 

One thing though, there are a lot more of these types among Democrats than among Republicans.  Not only are the D's the party of Big Government, for the most part they are the party of illiterate, non-thinking, low information voters. 



A word on 'right-wing' media.  There are a few important differences between them and what we refer to as the main stream media:   

- People in the 'right wing' media bring relevant news and information the 'MSM' ignores, covers up, or spins into something different than what the facts are.  In other words, they provide balance.

- Those in the 'right-wing' media offering their opinions say so, while the MSM pretends their opinions (printed outside the op-ed page) are unbiased news. 

- Big Media is much closer to the Democrats and those who champion Big Government, while 'right-wing' media does not march in lock-step with the Republicans and often spends as much of their time criticizing them as they do criticizing the Democrats. 

- Big Media is simply much more scummy and dishonest on behalf of the Ds than 'right-wing' media could ever even try to be on behalf of the R's

[Quick Karl]

- People in the 'right wing' media bring relevant news and information the 'MSM' ignores, covers up, or spins into something different than what the facts are.  In other words, they provide balance.

- Those in the 'right-wing' media offering their opinions say so, while the MSM pretends their opinions (printed outside the op-ed page) are unbiased news. 

- Big Media is much closer to the Democrats and those who champion Big Government, while 'right-wing' media does not march in lock-step with the Republicans and often spends as much of their time criticizing them as they do criticizing the Democrats. 

- Big Media is simply much more scummy and dishonest on behalf of the Ds than 'right-wing' media could ever even try to be on behalf of the R's

Wait... wait... wait... here comes the name calling...

[FightTheFuture]

I`ll make a bet -- ANY amount -- to be given to the charity of the winner`s choice, with anybody on this forum, that Perry walks away from these ridiculously absurd charges without a conviction of any kind what-so-ever.

[analog kid]

He most likely won't be convicted. The charges are unusual and kind of dubious. Pretty much every expert in the field of law was apparently surprised by the indictment. If he does get convicted, even if the veto is proven to be directly related to his threat, it would be pretty ridiculous and highly partisan. But apparently Texas is a circus of fruitcakes. Who knew?

[FightTheFuture]

He most likely won't be convicted. The charges are unusual and kind of dubious. Pretty much every expert in the field of law was apparently surprised by the indictment. If he does get convicted, even if the veto is proven to be directly related to his threat, it would be pretty ridiculous and highly partisan. But apparently Austin, Texas is a circus of fruitcakes. Who knew?



fixed it fer ye

[analog kid]

He most likely won't be convicted. The charges are unusual and kind of dubious. Pretty much every expert in the field of law was apparently surprised by the indictment. If he does get convicted, even if the veto is proven to be directly related to his threat, it would be pretty ridiculous and highly partisan. But apparently Austin, Texas is a circus of fruitcakes. Who knew?



fixed it fer ye

The shenanigans that's been going on state-wide in Texas for about the past eight years makes Florida look reasonable by comparison. But I'm a Louisianian, so I have no ground to stand on.

[Unquenchable Angst]

You know what?  I'm tired of the Liberal/Left bullshit tactics.  The one sided media.  The clods that eat it up.

http://takimag.com/article/how_to_deal_with_the_brainwashed_jim_goad/page_2#axzz3AmQLJbZm
This little essay has your back...


DUI harridan convicted, Perry veto's appropriations for the department she runs on proviso she resigns Perry will sign the appropriation. Some Democrat money bundling prosecutor drums up a grand jury to indict  Perry. One by one  Democrats  are 'taking out' possible Republican candidates. What nasty hypocritical totalitarian pricks they have become. I  don't really care for Perry but this is beyond the pale.

[NowhereInTime]

http://takimag.com/article/how_to_deal_with_the_brainwashed_jim_goad/page_2#axzz3AmQLJbZm
This little essay has your back...


DUI harridan convicted, Perry veto's appropriations for the department she runs on proviso she resigns Perry will sign the appropriation. Some Democrat money bundling prosecutor drums up a grand jury to indict  Perry. One by one  Democrats  are 'taking out' possible Republican candidates. What nasty hypocritical totalitarian pricks they have become. I  don't really care for Perry but this is beyond the pale.

Fighting fire with fire.  Figures you can't take your own medicine.  Should've fought the fight on values and virtues rather than smears and insinuations (Willie Horton).
Took us awhile, but now we're in the mud with you.

[yumyumtree]

The shenanigans that's been going on state-wide in Texas for about the past eight years makes Florida look reasonable by comparison. But I'm a Louisianian, so I have no ground to stand on.

This goes  back a lot further than 8 years.  LBJ was stealing elections and up to all kinds of other stuff in the 40s and 50s.  As recent C to C guest Roger Stone pointed out, this was why the Kennedys held their noses when asking him to be on the ticket in 1960.  Not that they were above such things themselves.

[PB the Deplorable]

... What nasty hypocritical totalitarian pricks they have become. I  don't really care for Perry but this is beyond the pale.

Talk about abuse of power, the actions of the 'Progressives' that run Travis County are another example of the Left's totalitarian mindset.  Anything goes, because they have no respect for our nation, our government, our history, our culture, the rule of law, or basic decency.  They are the 'good people', the rest of us are a bunch of racists or worse, and the end justifies the means.  It's tactics like these that make the rest of us question their patriotism, and it's how we know they hate America and want to undo and destroy it.  The 1960s misfits have wormed their way into power and this is how they use it. 

They aren't interested in the founding principles of our nation:  free speech and personal Liberty, the rule of law, property ownership, our system of free exchange, of self rule, of the consent of the governed, or any of the rest of it.  When it comes to pushing their agenda, they have no boundaries, no limits, no sense of fair play.  They despise us and use our system and freedoms against us.


These particular assholes have pulled this shit before.  It was the Travis County DA and judges who pursued Tom Delay on trumped up 'money laundering' and 'conspiracy' charges only for him to end up fully exonerated - but the damage was done, they drove him from office.  It was this very same group of people corruptly using their positions to indict Kay Bailey Hutchinson just prior to her run for US Senate - when this finally came up for trial the DA didn't even present evidence and the case was thrown out.  The damage was done in this attempt to smear a candidate for higher office but Hutchinson won the race anyway. 

We need to stop electing Democrats, and stop listening to the Libs and Progressives.  At best their policies are failures, at worst they are out to destroy us.

[Quick Karl]

I have to give you credit PB - don't know how you do it.

I have watched you post hundreds of valid points, and even noticed lately that even you are getting fed up with the juvenile stupidity of nitwit (I coined that name by the way), but I don't know how you can keep posting reasonable opinions with facts that support them, and expect it to have any effect on the malcontent-clique...

Next thing you know nitwit will be accusing you of posting things you never did and editing your post to conceal it!

[analog kid]

http://takimag.com/article/how_to_deal_with_the_brainwashed_jim_goad/page_2#axzz3AmQLJbZm
This little essay has your back...


DUI harridan convicted, Perry veto's appropriations for the department she runs on proviso she resigns Perry will sign the appropriation. Some Democrat money bundling prosecutor drums up a grand jury to indict  Perry. One by one  Democrats  are 'taking out' possible Republican candidates. What nasty hypocritical totalitarian pricks they have become. I  don't really care for Perry but this is beyond the pale.

Well, now you know how everyone else feels about the endless Obama (and both Clintons) "scandals" and conspiracies.

[NowhereInTime]

I have to give you credit PB - don't know how you do it.

I have watched you post hundreds of valid points, and even noticed lately that even you are getting fed up with the juvenile stupidity of nitwit (I coined that name by the way), but I don't know how you can keep posting reasonable opinions with facts that support them, and expect it to have any effect on the malcontent-clique...

Next thing you know nitwit will be accusing you of posting things you never did and editing your post to conceal it!

Oh, look, more self congratulation from the Unvalidated!  Please excuse my hysterical response.
Glad to see I'm never far from your thoughts. I'm the closest thing you have to a conscience.