Hillary Clinton

[Jackstar]

My mother has been dead over two years, mouth breather. You're just the not know anything who just keeps giving.

No, she's just no longer returning your calls, you mewling, sycophantic mouthpiece freak.

Also, my mother tells me that your mother says she's sorry, which isn't really good enough for me, yet. I'm skeptical.

(I believe in recycling.)

[Kidnostad3]

Erm, yes. I know. I was being literal. You know, ironic...damn, Irony doesn't work on Americans.

I caught the humor and was being obnoxiously and unnecessarily didactic in jest.  No kidding, I really was.  Ever heard of a comedian named Don Rickles?

I guess it's true. We are people separated by a common language.

[Kidnostad3]

Also, my mother tells me that your mother says she's sorry, which isn't really good enough for me, yet. I'm skeptical.

(I believe in recycling.)

Oh yeah, well I'm going to get ahold of my mother and she's going to kick both of your mothers' asses.  How do you like them apples?

[Jackstar]

What did my mother ever do to your mother? I don't think you've thought this through.

[Kidnostad3]

What did my mother ever do to your mother? I don't think you've thought this through.

No but she never could abide the kind of petty squabbling and rancor that goes on in this thread so she's going to take it out on them since we are all beyond her reach at the moment.  Sort of a punishment for raising knuckle heads.  But, when we cross over we all had better stand by for a serious ass whipping. 

[Jackstar]

she never could abide the kind of petty squabbling and rancor that goes on in this thread

[Kidnostad3]

I resent the association.  You sure know how to hurt a guy.

[Jackstar]

resent the association

The resentment is all on you--the association comes from you reading and posting in The Hillary Clinton thread.

We only hurt the ones we love.

[21st Century Man]

I resent the association.  You sure know how to hurt a guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krF8bU43GRw

[Kidnostad3]

The resentment is all on you--the association comes from you reading and posting in The Hillary Clinton thread.

We only hurt the ones we love.

Does anyone else think it might be time to change the name of this thread, Hilliary being a dead letter and all?  How about "The Anglo-American Philosphical Society and Marching Band."

[Kidnostad3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krF8bU43GRw

So that's where I picked up that term.  And they all said my youth was mispent.

[21st Century Man]

So that's where I picked that term up.

lol.  Probably. Certain phrases bring up songs in my mind.

[Jackstar]

Does anyone else think it might be time to change the name of this thread

[Kidnostad3]

Really, you don't think we've heard from the corpulent soprano yet?  We haven't succeeded in driving a stake through the vampire's heart?

I think that if through some sort of political skulduggery the election results were nullified and Hilliary was declared the winner, there would be a bloody revolution in this country and I would be among the first to man the barricades.  Just sayin'

[HedgehogNorman]

My mother has been dead over two years, mouth breather. You're just the not know anything who just keeps giving.

Why is it that liberals think mouth breather is a good insult?

I disagreed with someone on my local congressman's page and got called a mouth breathing sister fister...

[Kidnostad3]

Why is it that liberals think mouth breather is a good insult?

I disagreed with someone on my local congressman's page and got called a mouth breathing sister fister...

Must be still smarting from the election results.

[Yorkshire pud]

Why is it that liberals think mouth breather is a good insult?

I disagreed with someone on my local congressman's page and got called a mouth breathing sister fister...

Why do Trump disciples think libtard is an insult when its directed at anyone without knowing what their political feelings are, but simply disagree with Trump?

[Lunger]

Why do Trump disciples think libtard is an insult when its directed at anyone without knowing what their political feelings are, but simply disagree with Trump?

Libtard!

[Kidnostad3]

(The Hill) In dashing through his last few weeks in office, will one of Obama’s final acts be to pardon Hillary Clinton for any violations of federal law she might have committed while she was secretary of State?

It’s an interesting and complex question.

Photo by Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Photo by Foreign and Commonwealth Office
We should first note that the Obama administration’s decision not to prosecute Clinton would not bind the Trump administration. Until relevant statutes of limitations have expired, she could still be prosecuted by the new administration. It is possible, in my opinion, for Clinton to be prosecuted for either her improper handling of classified information on her “home brew” email server or allegations of “pay to play” arrangements between the secretary of State and donors to the Clinton Foundation, which could constitute bribery.

The statute of limitations for most federal crimes is five years from the commission of the offense; that would apply to the two categories relevant to Clinton. Her tenure as secretary of State ended Feb. 1, 2013, so it is possible that the statute of limitations will not run until Feb. 1, 2018, more than a year after Donald Trump takes office.

What looks like one question â€" will the president pardon Clinton? â€" turns out, on analysis, to be two. The first question is: Would Clinton wish to receive a pardon?

That question seems to be a proverbial no-brainer. Surely, any person who had been in federal government would be eager to receive a presidential pardon, because it eliminates even the possibility of federal prosecution. That looks like all upside and no downside.

But there is a downside, and it isn’t trivial. A pardon must be accepted by the person who is pardoned if it is to effectively stymie any prosecution.

Furthermore, there is solid legal precedent that acceptance of a pardon is equivalent to confession of guilt. A U.S. Supreme Court case from 1915 called Burdick v. U.S. establishes that principle; it has never been overturned.

If acceptance of a pardon by Clinton would amount to confession of guilt, would she nevertheless accept it? A multitude of factors would go into her decision.

She, together with her attorneys, would have to decide how likely it is that the Trump administration would prosecute her, and, if it did decide to prosecute, how likely the administration would be able to prove she had committed crimes…

[21st Century Man]

I don't think you can pardon a person who has yet to be indicted or convicted of any crime.  There is literally nothing to pardon and what if she decided to off Bill and was caught.  That would mean she couldn't go to jail for the crime.  Sounds hinky.

[Dr. MD MD]

I don't think you can pardon a person who has yet to be indicted or convicted of any crime.  There is literally nothing to pardon and what if she decided to off Bill and was caught.  That would mean she couldn't go to jail for the crime.  Sounds hinky.

This question has been asked and answered several times already. Yes, you can. Nixon. 

[21st Century Man]

This question has been asked and answered several times already. Yes, you can. Nixon. 

Still doesn't sound kosher to me.

[Kidnostad3]

Still doesn't sound kosher to me.

Well we now know how Obama feels about things Kosher.

[21st Century Man]

Well we now know how Obama feels about things Kosher.

LOL.  Indeed.

[21st Century Man]

So let's say I get a letter from Obama with a full pardon for me, that means I can get my guns and go rob a bank.  I can't be arrested or indicted.  I can even murder my wife and they still couldn't throw me in jail.  Do you get what I'm saying? It is one thing to pardon a person for a certain crime but another to give a citizen carte blanche to do anything they want.

[PB the Deplorable]

So let's say I get a letter from Obama with a full pardon for me, that means I can get my guns and go rob a bank.  I can't be arrested or indicted.  I can even murder my wife and they still couldn't throw me in jail.  Do you get what I'm saying? It is one thing to pardon a person for a certain crime but another to give a citizen carte blanche to do anything they want.

“The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1

The power to pardon is limited to federal crimes, and can't interfere with impeachment cases in progress.  It does not give the president power to waive laws in advance, and is therefore limited to offenses that have already been committed (whether they've been charged or prosecuted or not).

[21st Century Man]

“The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1

The power to pardon is limited to federal crimes, and can't interfere with impeachment cases in progress.  It does not give the president power to waive laws in advance, and is therefore limited to offenses that have already been committed (whether they've been charged or prosecuted or not).

That's what I thought. Thank you, PB.

[Jackstar]

I don't think you can pardon a person who has yet to be indicted or convicted of any crime.

[Jackstar]

Too bad, William Jefferson Rockefeller-Clinton and your duplicitous higher-level CIA wife, Jezebel. Your wicked game is over and your dirty bluff has been called. What is scandalous is that you and your criminal associates are still at large. You should all be behind bars in the GULAG, along with all your implicated financial enterprise colleagues â€" given the endless crimes that you have committed against your fellow countrymen and women, and the human lives you have wrecked. You swine.


Seems legit.

[Kidnostad3]

Just sayin'