IRS Says 'Lost' Lerner Emails...

[Quick Karl]

IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from embattled former official Lois Lerner as tea party targeting scandal heats up again...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2657545/IRS-claims-LOST-two-years-worth-email-embattled-former-official-Lois-Lerner-tea-party-targeting-scandal-heats-again.html



I believe em...

Next up, Hillary, and the State Department, loses every minute speck of information concerning her years as Secretary of State.

[albrecht]

IRS claims it has LOST two years' worth of emails from embattled former official Lois Lerner as tea party targeting scandal heats up again...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2657545/IRS-claims-LOST-two-years-worth-email-embattled-former-official-Lois-Lerner-tea-party-targeting-scandal-heats-again.html



I believe em...

Next up, Hillary, and the State Department, loses every minute speck of information concerning her years as Secretary of State.

Can I claim a stomach ache and then a "bump on the head" causing me to forget to report some capital gains if confronted with an IRS audit? Or what about some "lost emails" for some financial transactions? Nope. Hell, even if you hire a professional tax attorney or accountancy firm to do your taxes and they make a simple mistake it will be YOU who is liable financially and criminally. But, of course, the IRS minions can "lose emails." What about Sarbanes-Oxley and data-retention laws? How come a business must comply and retain all communications but the government, and politicians, get to "lose emails" or get a "bump in the head" and forget everything or not testify promptly?

[Quick Karl]

Can I claim a stomach ache and then a "bump on the head" causing me to forget to report some capital gains if confronted with an IRS audit? Or what about some "lost emails" for some financial transactions? Nope. Hell, even if you hire a professional tax attorney or accountancy firm to do your taxes and they make a simple mistake it will be YOU who is liable financially and criminally. But, of course, the IRS minions can "lose emails." What about Sarbanes-Oxley and data-retention laws? How come a business must comply and retain all communications but the government, and politicians, get to "lose emails" or get a "bump in the head" and forget everything or not testify promptly?

You must be a conservative, republican, religious-something.

[PB the Deplorable]

Pretty odd for this to happen in the midst of an investigation of a 'phony scandal'.  Sort of a 'selective' crash, what involves her computer, the server that stores the emails, back up tapes, the phones she used for texting, and the backup system for that.

But only for the period under review, and only her emails to agencies and people outside the IRS.  Like the White House, the Dept of (In)Justice, certain Democrat Congressmen.

They are lying, of course.  As usual.  Notice they placed this in the Media at the end of the day on a Friday - that's when news people don't want anyone to see usually gets released.

The House needs a special prosecutor, and a staff comprised of seasoned investigators, forensic computer experts, interrogators, and prosecutors.  Since this Lois Lerner person was in cahoots with other Congressmen - such as Sen Patrick Leahy - and Dept of Justice officials, go god damn get warrants to search their emails as well.  Go get her phones, before they are 'lost' too.


I suspect the reason Boehner won't call a special prosecutor for this is because he's happy Obama sent these thugs after the Tea Party.  The Tea Party is Boehner's enemy too.

[Quick Karl]

I suspect the reason Boehner won't call a special prosecutor for this is because he's happy Obama sent these thugs after the Tea Party.  The Tea Party is Boehner's enemy too.

More likely they have some dirt on him -- that tan has sicko written al over it...

[PB the Deplorable]

More likely they have some dirt on him...

They want him gone for the same reasons they want Cantor and McConnell and McCain and the rest gone. 

They tried to 'primary' him and lost.  Boehner got 69% of the vote - outspending his opponent by the same margins Cantor outspent his - which is absolutely horrible for a sitting House Speaker in his own party's primary.

[analog kid]

That bastion of credibility, the Daily Fail. Because the Weekly World News hasn't picked the story up yet.

[PB the Deplorable]

That bastion of credibility, the Daily Fail. Because the Weekly World News hasn't picked the story up yet.

Well, ok, it's been a year - where are the emails?

[analog kid]

Well, ok, it's been a year - where are the emails?

I don't know. First find a credible source to base the controversy on.

[albrecht]

I don't know. First find a credible source to base the controversy on.

But nobody is credible if they say anything against this character Obama or his minions, right? Is not just the Daily Mail but Wash Post, AP, and THE IRS ITSELF ADMITTED "losing" the emails and told this to Congress! But even their own statements and press releases cannot be true because, after all, it is simply a right-wing plot to discredit the best person ever and almost the godhead to his adherents: Obama.

[Quick Karl]

That bastion of credibility, the Daily Fail. Because the Weekly World News hasn't picked the story up yet.

You mean, because the Democrat Propaganda Machine, wait, I mean the mainstream media in America, WON'T report anything negative about THEIR administration?

[analog kid]

Uh-oh, the conspiracy deepens.

You guys must need a flow chart to keep up with all the conspiracy theories.

If it's cut and dry, it should be easily corroborated with other sources that don't have a history of being laughably inaccurate.

[Quick Karl]

Uh-oh, the conspiracy deepens.

You guys must need a flow chart to keep up with all the conspiracy theories.

If it's cut and dry, it should be easily corroborated with other sources that don't have a history of being laughably inaccurate.

So, you're saying, the mainstream media in America, is 100% unbiased, and absolutely non-partisan?

[analog kid]

So, you're saying, the mainstream media in America, is 100% unbiased, and absolutely non-partisan?

No, I'm saying the notion that everyone except the Daily Fail is lying to protect Obama is a fool's argument.

[PB the Deplorable]

No, I'm saying the notion that everyone except the Daily Fail is lying to protect Obama is a fool's argument.

Pick your source

http://www.google.com/#q=lerner+lost+emails

[Quick Karl]

No, I'm saying the notion that everyone except the Daily Fail is lying to protect Obama is a fool's argument.

Is not saying anything, the same as lying?

[analog kid]

I can post links too.

It's the IRS' job to scrutinize organizations that apply for tax exempt status, especially when those groups are political activists who denounce taxes.

[PB the Deplorable]

I can post links too.

It's the IRS' job to scrutinize organizations that apply for tax exempt status, especially when those groups are political activists who denounce taxes.

As part of the Executive branch, it's also the IRS's job to provide subpoenaed documents to Congress in order for them to perform their oversight role - not to hide them for a year then claim they're 'lost' or there was a 'computer crash'. 

[Quick Karl]

I can post links too.

It's the IRS' job to scrutinize organizations that apply for tax exempt status, especially when those groups are political activists who denounce taxes.

THAT is the flat out, most insane thing, I've ever read.

[albrecht]

THAT is the flat out, most insane thing, I've ever read.

actually THAT was the most frightening thing I've ever read. The programming is complete when taxes are seen as the be all, end all. Not even considering what the taxes pay for or what is being taxed.

And also that we must be taxed and that the government and their minions should target those who question any part of the taxation code (a code by the way that you can hire 3 different tax accountants or attorneys and come up with 3 different filings from the same data to comply with the "voluntary" reporting. And then be criminally and civilly punished if some government bureaucrats claims that you didn't comply with the ten's of thousands of pages, opinions, decrees, etc of the tax code and then to be tried in special tax court without a jury "of your peers". Just like the Founders imagined. I'm sure.)

[Quick Karl]

actually THAT was the most frightening thing I've ever read. The programming is complete when taxes are seen as the be all, end all. Not even considering what the taxes pay for or what is being taxed.

And also that we must be taxed and that the government and their minions should target those who question any part of the taxation code (a code by the way that you can hire 3 different tax accountants or attorneys and come up with 3 different filings from the same data to comply with the "voluntary" reporting. And then be criminally and civilly punished if some government bureaucrats claims that you didn't comply with the ten's of thousands of pages, opinions, decrees, etc of the tax code and then to be tried in special tax court without a jury "of your peers". Just like the Founders imagined. I'm sure.)

98% of the people on this forum, and 99.99% of the people in this country, haven't the slightest clue what The Founders intended - and they are too lazy to find out, or to pick up a book with evidence that challenges their dogma.

[analog kid]

THAT is the flat out, most insane thing, I've ever read.

Yeah, it's insane; it cites sources. Unlike the Daily Fail article, or those other links that all lead to the House Republican press release.

You guys wouldn't know critical thinking if it bit you in the ass.

[Quick Karl]

Yeah, it's insane; it cites sources. Unlike the Daily Fail article, or those other links that all lead to the House Republican press release.

You guys wouldn't know critical thinking if it bit you in the ass.

Son,

OVERTAXATION, is why this country was FOUNDED.

Maybe you should crack a book open?

[SciFiAuthor]

Someone in the IRS needs to go to federal prison for losing government documents. I mean, everyone else goes to prison for importing the wrong orchid, or violating an EPA regulation. Well, some people need to be on trial here. Hold everyone to the same standard.

Of course it won't happen, it's a cover-up, but ya know, get the wrong federal prosecutor for having a few too many joints and you're fucked, but lose the files integral to a major and wide-reaching investigation into the activities of the IRS and you get a pass.

We live in a very different country now. Obama should have been Nixoned years ago. It's not happening because of both social and political corruption. We see the social corruption every time a liberal posts in here.

[analog kid]

Son,

OVERTAXATION, is why this country was FOUNDED.

Maybe you should crack a book open?

Caps, bold and underlined. It's the impotent rage trifecta.

[albrecht]

Caps, bold and underlined. It's the impotent rage trifecta.

The IRS itself says it "lost" the emails. Surely they are a credible source.

[Quick Karl]

The IRS itself says it "lost" the emails. Surely they are a credible source.

The Government only lies when Republicans are in office...

[albrecht]

More cover ups are apparently happening:

"It is not just Lois Lerner’s e-mails. The Internal Revenue Service says it can’t produce e-mails from six more employees involved in the targeting of conservative groups, according to two Republicans investigating the scandal.

The IRS told Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp and subcommittee chairman Charles Boustany that computer crashes resulted in additional lost e-mails, including from Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to former IRS commissioner Steven Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal."
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/380576/irs-has-lost-more-e-mails-eliana-johnson

[Quick Karl]

And that people that support the regime, and that lay claims to intellect and integrity, just sit there and smirk and find something Nixon did to justify what happens today.

Helluva population of people.

[PB the Deplorable]

Now the hard drives have gone missing.

Shocking.


Based on all this - his stooge taking the 5th Amendment, the months of stonewalling, the deleted emails, the missing hard drives - I think it's safe to assume the paper trail involving the IRS abuse of power leads straight to the Oval Office.