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Impending Global Whiskey Shortage

Started by Mind Flayer Monk, June 12, 2014, 12:38:19 PM

We are running out of whiskey according to this article from the Smithsonian Magazine.

We’re Drinking Whiskey Faster Than Distillers Can Make More
Whiskey supplies are running low

"Sales data show that most coveted whiskey of all is now the high-end, decade-plus aged varieties. Unfortunately, whiskey brewers preparing today's stocks 10 or more years ago did not see that coming. "
http://goo.gl/50f5dX

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on June 12, 2014, 12:38:19 PM
We are running out of whiskey according to this article from the Smithsonian Magazine.

We’re Drinking Whiskey Faster Than Distillers Can Make More
Whiskey supplies are running low

"Sales data show that most coveted whiskey of all is now the high-end, decade-plus aged varieties. Unfortunately, whiskey brewers preparing today's stocks 10 or more years ago did not see that coming. "
http://goo.gl/50f5dX

I'm guessing this is US? No shortage of Scottish single Malt... ;)  Especially Highland Park.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 12, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
I'm guessing this is US? No shortage of Scottish single Malt... ;)  Especially Highland Park.

They interviewed a bourbon makers so certainly the US. They also mentioned a barrel shortage so this would probably effect every maker.

Don't look at me, I drink rum and tequila.

paladin1991

SON OF A BITCH!!!!  STOP THE FUCKING WORLD!  SOMEBODY DO A RECOUNT!  THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING!  WHO THE FUCK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS?  WHO FAILED THE HUMAN RACE?  SOMEBODY, AND I MEAN SOMEBODY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS!  AND THAT MISERABLE PRICK WILL BE SUCKING THE DICKS OF DEAD DONKEYS FOR ALL TIME AFTER THIS!  MARK MY FUCKING WORDS!

Go easy on that shit, Pud.  You might have to make it last.  FUCK!  A Scotch and a seegar are all that keep my sane sometimes.

bigchucka

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 12, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
I'm guessing this is US? No shortage of Scottish single Malt... ;)  Especially Highland Park.

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on June 12, 2014, 12:51:58 PM
They interviewed a bourbon makers so certainly the US. They also mentioned a barrel shortage so this would probably effect every maker.

Oak tree issue maybe?  And if it's the "older" aged stuff... wasn't me.  Although Maker's Mark is some good shit.... Most of my heavy drinking I went Jim Beam, Ancient Age, or Old Crow.  Beam's 8-star is a fucking joke... friends did personal experiments a while back that led them to believe that 80 proof on the label is BS.

Personally, I think scotch has an off-putting taste.  Got a fifth of Johnny Walker Red Label once... it was a friend's birthday and neither of us had scotch before.  We didn't finish it... and me and him could put away a half gallon of other kinds if we put our minds to it....

Kelt

So they'll raise the price and less people will drink it, thus balancing the market.

The only thing I've noticed a shortage of is .22LR ammo.

Fuckn hoarders.

ksm32

I have nine bottles of this that I cherish along with my Oban distillers 97 edition supply. I am a Fine Scotch survivalist. If you know how to taste a Livet 21 properly? it finishes for about 40 minutes.

These are notes you wish you could write.

zeebo

Quote from: bigchucka on June 12, 2014, 05:31:23 PM
...Personally, I think scotch has an off-putting taste.  Got a fifth of Johnny Walker Red Label once... it was a friend's birthday and neither of us had scotch before.  We didn't finish it...

JW Red is good for mixed drinks and stripping paint.  But the JW Black on the rocks really grows on you.  Don't ask me about JW Blue, I've only ever had one thimble-full at a free tasting event.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: bigchucka on June 12, 2014, 05:31:23 PM


Personally, I think scotch has an off-putting taste.  Got a fifth of Johnny Walker Red Label once...

Ahh. Johnny Walker is shit. The same way not all wine is the same, whisky is unique to it's origin. Talisker is distilled at the side of a sea loch on the Isle of Skye. It tastes and smells completely different to say Laphroaig, Jura, Glenfiddich or McCallan. There's a pub at Sligachon, on Skye that has two tiers of shelves around the huge bar (Quadrangle serving four rooms) that is full of different whisky. Quite a night!

One thing that always cracks me up is Jack Daniels is absolute rot gut, yet it's somehow popular and considered cool to drink

bigchucka

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 13, 2014, 02:16:16 AM
One thing that always cracks me up is Jack Daniels is absolute rot gut, yet it's somehow popular and considered cool to drink

Won a bet once.  Someone claimed if you left a bottle of JD sit for a period of time it became bourbon.  I always preferred bourbons.  Gentlemen Jack or JD single barrel is alright.

ksm32

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 13, 2014, 02:16:16 AM
One thing that always cracks me up is Jack Daniels is absolute rot gut, yet it's somehow popular and considered cool to drink

Truer words have never been said. It's a macho thing! that leaves them waking up with no pants, a jar of mustard, and a half eatan burrito, and for some reason the name "Ted hates me" is carved into their chest. < That didn't happen to me.

@ Bigchucka! The things you say about Scotch are downright heartbreaking. Brush and wash your no doubt filthy mouth out and spend a few bucks on a highland single and learn from it.

Do you kick puppies also? ;D

pate

I am sadly disturbed by this news...  IF true how is it the local liquor store was selling handles of Jim Beam for the price of a fifth?  Perhaps to speed the imminent price hike?

There's one thing to be said about whiskey, or oiske (some gaelic word...)  I always thought it was similar to the French eau de vie (or water of life)...

Anyhow, much like all congnacs are brandy, but not all brandies are congnac;  the same applies to whiskey!  All Single Malt Scotches are whiskeys but not all whiskeys are Single Malt Scotches...  Same for Bourbons, Canadian Whiskeys, Tennessee Whiskeys (ie Jack Daniels), Irish Whiskeys & whatever whiskey I've forgotten about...

I imagine Corn Whiskey/Corn Squeezin's/Moonshine should fall into the whiskey category...  Not to be a whiskey snob or anything...

I think I will drink about any of it if my preferred isn't available...


bigchucka

Quote from: ksm32 on June 13, 2014, 11:05:34 PM
@ Bigchucka! The things you say about Scotch are downright heartbreaking. Brush and wash your no doubt filthy mouth out and spend a few bucks on a highland single and learn from it.

I got to be too good at drinking and quit about three years ago.  No desire to start it back up.  I'm making it easy enough on the coroner as it is....

wr250

Quote from: bigchucka on June 14, 2014, 01:37:50 PM
I got to be too good at drinking and quit about three years ago.  No desire to start it back up.  I'm making it easy enough on the coroner as it is....

yes bacon will do that ...

albrecht

Conspiracy? I say "yes". I was talking to my local liquor store guy about how now "Old Granddad" is now 80proof. And also how Jack Daniels went down to 80 proof. I asked if the price would be cheaper now because less Federal excise tax on the alcohol. Nope. If you want JD, which I don't particularly like, may I suggest Evan Williams? Not only is it still higher proof but tastes the same as Jack and is substantially cheaper. And has a storied history also.

I think the whiskey shortage is only for "American" whiskey, not Scotch and it is something to do with the barrels and also all the new marketing and weird (well I say weird) flavored whiskeys they are selling now. JD is also pushing for a law in Tennessee that would help them retain large market-share and less competition.

The Half Hour - Dan St. Germain - Evan Williams Whiskey

bigchucka

Quote from: wr250 on June 14, 2014, 01:42:02 PM
yes bacon will do that ...

I'll sometimes put a strip of bacon on a burger, especially when I buy a large roll of ground "me" and make a bunch of patties to freeze for later use.... but other than that I don't buy it that much.

WildCard

Quote from: Kelt on June 12, 2014, 06:12:34 PM
Fuckn hoarders.
When I was kid, my dad heard that there was going be a shortage of toilet paper. So we had a closet full.

The zombie apocalypse never happened but, it didn't go bad and it all got used.

albrecht

Quote from: WildCard on June 14, 2014, 03:06:53 PM
When I was kid, my dad heard that there was going be a shortage of toilet paper. So we had a closet full.

The zombie apocalypse never happened but, it didn't go bad and it all got used.
Nice. Never hurts to hoard a bit, especially if you find a good deal on buying in bulk and if the stuff lasts a long time. Though I haven't fallen for, yet, all the darn commercials on C2C, GroundZero, Infowars, and general AM radio about "survival food-banks" and various hoarding food stuff.

paladin1991

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 13, 2014, 02:16:16 AM
One thing that always cracks me up is Jack Daniels is absolute rot gut, yet it's somehow popular and considered cool to drink
Jack Black?  Gave up drinking that in the 80's.  Switched to gin.  Now it's usually just Scotch. 
"Scotchy, Scotch, Scotch."
Unless you are buying.  Scotch?  Sure.  No? Then it's whatever your having.  I am still a Marine and do drink for effect.

ksm32

Quote from: bigchucka on June 14, 2014, 01:37:50 PM
I got to be too good at drinking and quit about three years ago.  No desire to start it back up.  I'm making it easy enough on the coroner as it is....

Ok, fine. I can't argue with that as it is your life and liver.

HOWEVER! I am always curious when someone makes such a statement like "I Had to STOP!".. what is the story? what happened?

The eternal question.

onan

Quote from: ksm32 on June 15, 2014, 12:59:59 AM
Ok, fine. I can't argue with that as it is your life and liver.

HOWEVER! I am always curious when someone makes such a statement like "I Had to STOP!".. what is the story? what happened?

The eternal question.

I had to stop, because no one would front me anymore.

bigchucka

Quote from: onan on June 15, 2014, 07:41:37 AM
I had to stop, because no one would front me anymore.

We talking alcohol here?  Never heard of a liquor store that worked on credit.  Pot dealers on the other hand... I've always paid with cash up front 99 pct. of the time.  That way, I'm not writing a check my ass might not be able to cash...

onan

Quote from: bigchucka on June 15, 2014, 08:11:11 AM
We talking alcohol here?  Never heard of a liquor store that worked on credit.  Pot dealers on the other hand... I've always paid with cash up front 99 pct. of the time.  That way, I'm not writing a check my ass might not be able to cash...

It was meant as a joke. But I guess times have changed. While I was in the army, I had a part time job at a liquor store in Colorado. Way back when in 73. We had several customers that had a tab.

eddie dean

Quote from: Paper*Boy on June 13, 2014, 02:16:16 AM
One thing that always cracks me up is Jack Daniels is absolute rot gut, yet it's somehow popular and considered cool to drink

Agreed. I never cared for the taste of jack daniels.  When I was young and stupid & offered JD at parties, I'd drink it, because it was the 'cool' wiskey. It didn't hurt that Anthony Michael from Van Halen had a bass guitar shaped like  a bottle of JD.

Goes to prove that taste and quality have little to do with brand recognition and success.
They could pour pure gasoline in a JD bottle and no one would notice.

pate

It has taken me two plus (double-plus?) years to distill this little nugget from the whirled peas that is my brane:

Both Irish and Scotch are "UK Whiskeys" and much to my dismay both Bourbon and Canadienne are considered "American Whiskeys."

In order of preference (depending on mood and/or adult diaper wardrobe):

1. Scotch

2. Bourbon

3. Irish

4. Canadienne

All are drinkable in this shortage we are facing however...

ediot: the above listing assumes that the palate is first cleansed by shotgunning a twelve-ounce can of PBR and the Whiskey consumption glass is first rinsed with that medical grade rubbing alcohol known as "Tenessee Whiskey," one must have standards after all...

TwitEdit:  The rinsing of the whiskey glass is assumed to happen when the grade requires either an up- or down-shift

3diot: 'pologies for the Lazarus effect

Rix Gins

Quote from: pate on August 13, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
It has taken me two plus (double-plus?) years to distill this little nugget from the whirled peas that is my brane:

Both Irish and Scotch are "UK Whiskeys" and much to my dismay both Bourbon and Canadienne are considered "American Whiskeys."

In order of preference (depending on mood and/or adult diaper wardrobe):

1. Scotch

2. Bourbon

3. Irish

4. Canadienne

All are drinkable in this shortage we are facing however...

ediot: the above listing assumes that the palate is first cleansed by shotgunning a twelve-ounce can of PBR and the Whiskey consumption glass is first rinsed with that medical grade rubbing alcohol known as "Tenessee Whiskey," one must have standards after all...

TwitEdit:  The rinsing of the whiskey glass is assumed to happen when the grade requires either an up- or down-shift

3diot: 'pologies for the Lazarus effect

My name is Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez and I drink it right out of the bottle.

pate

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This Tops Collector Card my Musical Musings prog-post...  whoa!

ksm32

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on June 12, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
I'm guessing this is US? No shortage of Scottish single Malt... ;)  Especially Highland Park.

I keep a hefty library of fine single malts. Canadian taxes screw me on the price, big time. Example, a Glenlivet 21 is purchased at about $199. PLUS TAX!

Doesn't stop me though.

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