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Film Every Encounter With Police!!1

Started by Zoo, December 23, 2013, 08:23:07 AM

Zoo

      Did you know it is ok to film the police? So why do they get so mad? If they have nothing to hide whats the big deal? I mean they tell me this all the time when they try to search my car or ask for my ID. The only problem is I have the right to film them they do not have the right to search me for my ID unless I am being detained for a crime.
      The filming of government officials engaged in their duties in a public place, including police officers performing their responsibilities, fits comfortably within these principles. Gathering information about government officials in a form that can readily be disseminated to others serves a cardinal First Amendment interest in protecting and promoting “the free discussion of governmental affairs.” Mills v. Alabama, 384 U.S. 214, 218 (1966). Moreover, as the Court has noted, “[f]reedom of expression has particular significance with respect to government because ‘t is here that the state has a special incentive to repress opposition and often wields a more effective power of suppression.’” First Nat’l Bank, 435 U.S. at 777 n.11 (alteration in original) (quoting Thomas Emerson,Toward a General Theory of the First Amendment 9 (1966)). This is particularly true of law enforcement officials, who are granted substantial discretion that may be misused to deprive individuals of their liberties. Cf. Gentile v. State Bar of Nev., 501 U.S. 1030, 1035-36 (1991) (observing that “[t]he public has an interest in [the] responsible exercise” of the discretion granted police and prosecutors). Ensuring the public’s right to gather information about their officials not only aids in the uncovering of abuses, see id. at 1034-35 (recognizing a core First Amendment interest in “the dissemination of information relating to alleged governmental misconduct”), but also may have a salutary effect on the functioning of government more generally, see Press-Enter. Co.v. Superior Court, 478 U.S. 1, 8 (1986) (noting that “many governmental processes operate best under public scrutiny”).!!1

aldousburbank

They don't like being filmed cuz they think it makes their butts look big, their wisdom look small, and their junk overcompensated for. Thank a hall monitor.

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 08:23:07 AM
      Did you know it is ok to film the police? So why do they get so mad? If they have nothing to hide whats the big deal? I mean they tell me this all the time when they try to search my car or ask for my ID.

One wonders why the police are always asking for your ID and/or searching your car. I`ve been around a lot longer than you, and probably longer than most on this forum, but I have never once had a policeman ask to search me or my car.

In all seriousness, I`m curious as to what behavior you are undertaking that seems to draw so much attention.

onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 AM
One wonders why the police are always asking for your ID and/or searching your car. I`ve been around a lot longer than you, and probably longer than most on this forum, but I have never once had a policeman ask to search me or my car.

In all seriousness, I`m curious as to what behavior you are undertaking that seems to draw so much attention.

I have had my car searched twice. Both times because it matched the description of some ne'er-do-well vehicle. First time was my 68 camaro convertible. The guy they were looking for had a 68 convertible firebird. It was on a military base. Other than having more than 10 MP's giving me the stink eye for about a half hour... well it's fun to tell at parties and on this forum. The other time was about 4 years ago, my bmw had a very similar plate number to a guy with a bmw and took his kid across state lines while under court order not to.

Always a pain in the ass, I suppose.

aldousburbank

Quote from: FightTheFuture on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 AM
One wonders why the police are always asking for your ID and/or searching your car. I`ve been around a lot longer than you, and probably longer than most on this forum, but I have never once had a policeman ask to search me or my car.

In all seriousness, I`m curious as to what behavior you are undertaking that seems to draw so much attention.
Indie re-make of Keystone Cops?  Idiocracy?

Jnthn932

Come on down to Louisiana and refuse a cop when he asks for your ID. I dare you. You ain't from round here boy are ya?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: FightTheFuture on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 AM
One wonders why the police are always asking for your ID and/or searching your car. I`ve been around a lot longer than you, and probably longer than most on this forum, but I have never once had a policeman ask to search me or my car.

In all seriousness, I`m curious as to what behavior you are undertaking that seems to draw so much attention.


My guess is because he's a non conformist.. Rebellious nature.

aldousburbank

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 23, 2013, 08:58:06 AM

My guess is because he's a non conformist.. Rebellious nature.
Or wearing revealing clothing just looking like he's begging for it.


ItsOver

Quote from: aldousburbank on December 23, 2013, 09:00:41 AM
Or wearing revealing clothing just looking like he's begging for it.

Probably more than one just asking for it.



jazmunda

The filming of police incidents in order to prove to the policeman that it is legal to film the interaction and the policeman getting all pissed is my favorite genre of YouTube video.

BobGrau

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 08:23:07 AM
       ...So why do they get so mad?

They might be thinking "oh ffs here's another snot-nosed little teenybopper who thinks that swearing at me somehow equates to being a member of the Rebel Alliance".
Grow up. Only dupes and patsys wear the Guy Fawkes mask.

!2

Zoo

Quote from: FightTheFuture on December 23, 2013, 08:31:58 AM

In all seriousness, I`m curious as to what behavior you are undertaking that seems to draw so much attention.

     Well I do non-violent protesting. I protest against wars were my friends are dying or coming back disfigured or unable to work because their bodies might be home but their minds are still at war and are Government are cutting their benefits and closing down PTS groups for lack of funding(Support the troops as long as it is just words right). I protest against the Government doing what ever they feel like(NSA). I protest against bankers robing the American public of their hard earned money and only getting small fines instead of prison. I stand up for the rights that so many died to protect, and I flex these rights. I mean really people just like you stood up against police forcing segregation when it was against the law(FreedomRiders) Do you think we might just owe those who died to stand up for those rights? I do not know about you but I feel that I owe them to stand up for every right they died for and are still dying!!1

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
     Well I do non-violent protesting. I protest against wars were my friends are dying or coming back disfigured or unable to work because their bodies might be home but their minds are still at war and are Government are cutting their benefits and closing down PTS groups for lack of funding(Support the troops as long as it is just words right). I protest against the Government doing what ever they feel like(NSA). I protest against bankers robing the American public of their hard earned money and only getting small fines instead of prison. I stand up for the rights that so many died to protect, and I flex these rights. I mean really people just like you stood up against police forcing segregation when it was against the law(FreedomRiders) Do you think we might just owe those who died to stand up for those rights? I do not know about you but I feel that I owe them to stand up for every right they died for and are still dying!!1


Paperboy will be along soon giving you his full support; count on it.

Zoo

Quote from: BobGrau on December 23, 2013, 12:37:03 PM
They might be thinking "oh ffs here's another snot-nosed little teenybopper who thinks that swearing at me somehow equates to being a member of the Rebel Alliance".
Grow up. Only dupes and patsys wear the Guy Fawkes mask.

!2

So he is a snot-nosed little teenybopper? May be he should grow up too?
http://youtu.be/kd-gn-FtG30
http://youtu.be/Vgfpdbhccb8
!!1

aldousburbank

Why do you hate Americo and its subsidiaries for which they stand?  And one nation, under watch, by invisible, and forever for justice, or whatever for all to keep us safe. And if your freedom is what's making these kids die wherever they were not even drafted to be employed, hey, at least they are. But maybe if we were less free = less blood, more drones = stronge economy = well... I forget but then hey!  Let's roll! I mean unroll. Bring it on!  I mean off. Count me in!  I mean out. What I mean to say is, that I think I don't disagree!  Happy Santa Bday to you, whether you support your local Walmart tm or not!  And if you do video cops this holiday season, you should try wearing a santa cap and make super sure your car is clean, your bowels are empty, your bailbondsman is prepayed, your blood has only the prescribed antidepressants as recommended by your doctor, and say Aldous sez hello to all the other dudes who didn't smell the bacon and head for the veggie bar instead. Cause I've been there. The service sucks.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
So he is a snot-nosed little teenybopper? May be he should grow up too?



F t F and the others who are really keen on reminding us all about the amendments and freedoms will be with you Zoo; just be patient man. Being a bull in a china shop never got anyone anywhere.

Zoo

Quote from: Jnthn932 on December 23, 2013, 08:55:13 AM
Come on down to Louisiana and refuse a cop when he asks for your ID. I dare you. You ain't from round here boy are ya?

Copwatch already has done it!!1

BobGrau

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
So he is a snot-nosed little teenybopper? May be he should grow up too?
http://youtu.be/kd-gn-FtG30
http://youtu.be/Vgfpdbhccb8
!!1

Well, no you see I was referring to you...  ::)

Zoo

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 23, 2013, 03:55:52 PM

F t F and the others who are really keen on reminding us all about the amendments and freedoms will be with you Zoo; just be patient man. Being a bull in a china shop never got anyone anywhere.

     Will do; it is better to walk away- just wanted to show that all walks of life wear the Mask. Good looking out!!1

wr250

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
     Well I do non-violent protesting. I protest against wars were my friends are dying or coming back disfigured or unable to work because their bodies might be home but their minds are still at war and are Government are cutting their benefits and closing down PTS groups for lack of funding(Support the troops as long as it is just words right). I protest against the Government doing what ever they feel like(NSA). I protest against bankers robing the American public of their hard earned money and only getting small fines instead of prison. I stand up for the rights that so many died to protect, and I flex these rights. I mean really people just like you stood up against police forcing segregation when it was against the law(FreedomRiders) Do you think we might just owe those who died to stand up for those rights? I do not know about you but I feel that I owe them to stand up for every right they died for and are still dying!!1

and whats worse, they cut vet benefits , whilst send hundreds of millions to known terrorist organizations
(hamas anyone, how about the al-qaeda  associated  syrian rebels. more al-qaeda affiliated libyan rebels, the list goes on and on).  now this cash *could* be used to fund universal health care, and the VA. but nope, gotto spend it on terrorist groups and weapons to kill/maim  more of our soldiers.

/*edit*/
edited to un-capitilize terrorist group names, and speelin

BobGrau

Quote from: BobGrau on December 23, 2013, 12:37:03 PM
They might be thinking "oh ffs here's another snot-nosed little teenybopper who thinks that swearing at me somehow equates to being a member of the Rebel Alliance".
Grow up. Only dupes and patsys wear the Guy Fawkes mask.

!2

...TBH I'm just bothered by this topic 'cos I might need to pay a handy bribe someday and I don't want it on youtube.


Also, I posted the above when I'd just got home from work!!!!!!!!!0.5

Quote from: onan on December 23, 2013, 08:39:33 AM
I have had my car searched twice. Both times because it matched the description of some ne'er-do-well vehicle. First time was my 68 camaro convertible. The guy they were looking for had a 68 convertible firebird. It was on a military base. Other than having more than 10 MP's giving me the stink eye for about a half hour... well it's fun to tell at parties and on this forum. The other time was about 4 years ago, my bmw had a very similar plate number to a guy with a bmw and took his kid across state lines while under court order not to.

Always a pain in the ass, I suppose.

And here I imagined you in a '73 Gran Torino, a la, The Dude... turns out you're cruising around in a friggin' Camaro.  Will you at least tell me you enjoy White Russians on a semi-regular basis?  ;D

zeebo

Quote from: Zoo on December 23, 2013, 08:23:07 AM
      Did you know it is ok to film the police? So why do they get so mad? If they have nothing to hide whats the big deal? ...

They'll lecture you about behaving responsibly and facing consequences for your unlawful actions.  They however, don't exactly like that standard applied to themselves ... i.e., the Watchers don't like to be watched.

I would give anything for video of an encounter my elderly mother had with one local rookie cop who was on a major power trip.  I would have loved to make that guy a youtube sensation.

Quote from: onan on December 23, 2013, 08:39:33 AM
... First time was my 68 camaro convertible...


Nice, I hope you kept that car

onan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 23, 2013, 08:24:54 PM

Nice, I hope you kept that car

Sadly no, long story short, it is gone. I miss it.

aldousburbank

Quote from: onan on December 23, 2013, 08:55:08 PM
Sadly no, long story short, it is gone. I miss it.
I had a 69 Camaro, and I'm not trying to make a stupid joke, but I guess I did.

Ben Shockley

I had an '83 Berlinetta (5.0L V8), and along with a gamut of wrecks (morons smashing into me), it saw me through a bunch of encounters with cops that ran the gamut from being allowed to move along when I would probably have blown a 0.3 BAC, to being pulled out and made to assume the position and get shook down inside my apt. complex for not having the current tag decal stuck on the tag even though I had it, newly purchased, inside the car and shown to the cop.  So on and so forth.   Had to sell the car in economic dire straits back in '01.

For the record, I have LONG advocated the position that wanting to be a cop should be automatic disqualification from getting to be one.

Quote from: Ben Shockley on December 23, 2013, 09:07:38 PM
... For the record, I have LONG advocated the position that wanting to be a cop should be automatic disqualification from getting to be one.


There's some common ground


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