Any New News?

[Lt.Uhura]

Hi nbirnes, you are so right about content.  Like a lot of corporations today, I don't think Sirius is being run by folks with any radio experience.  There seems to be a corporate trend today to turn over day to day operations to marketing people with little to no knowledge, experience, or passion for their product.  Case in point:  Art leaves and immediately SiriusXM replaces him with the woefully inferior C2C, as if they are interchangeable!  That's like a car salesman telling you he's out of Cadillacs, but for the same price you can have this broken down Buick!! 

[nbirnes]

Indeed. And they wonder why bicycles are suddenly so popular!

[Juan]

I spent 55-years in broadcasting in one form or another and content was king until the accountants took over.  Then it was all dollars and cents.  On the news side, reporters and photographers were suddenly considered expenses rather than assets.  Newspapers, and, to a lesser degree, TV had only local news to sell.  By firing local reporters, they cost themselves the only thing they had to sell.  And they wonder why circulation is so far down.

Corporate idiots pride themselves on their creativity, but their creativity amounts to simply copying (at a lower cost) what someone else is already doing.  Or buying something and dumbing it down.

Keith and Art invented the modern connection between radio and the Internet.  They were among the first to experiment with live streaming of a show - at a time that almost everyone was on dialup.  Art's website was an encyclopedia of the paranormal - searchable and with pages for guests and links to their websites.  That was a time when a website address was something like www.gatech.edu/~houser/123/rat_on_mars/dilusional.html and before Google existed to find the topics otherwise.

If anyone can create a new way to share content, I think those two can.  It's going to be interesting to watch (listen) and see.

[ItsOver]

Hi nbirnes, you are so right about content.  Like a lot of corporations today, I don't think Sirius is being run by folks with any radio experience.  There seems to be a corporate trend today to turn over day to day operations to marketing people with little to no knowledge, experience, or passion for their product.  Case in point:  Art leaves and immediately SiriusXM replaces him with the woefully inferior C2C, as if they are interchangeable!  That's like a car salesman telling you he's out of Cadillacs, but for the same price you can have this broken down Buick!!

Yes, they just see them as interchangeable parts.  Cadillac, crapped-out Buick  Hey, they're both cars!  No problem here.  Roll that baby on in here.

I'm sure when PremRat took over C2C and needed somebody in addition to Art, they just thought "hey we've got some kind of goofy radio show about crazy crap.  We'll just stick an el-cheapo host into the slot and have him pretend he's semi-interested.  He can play the same music bumpers and have the same guests, with lots of commercials.  Having paying sponsors is all we're interested in anyway.  That's the ticket." 

[Ghost Gab]

Indeed. And they wonder why bicycles are suddenly so popular!

Hi Nancy, I watched Bill on UFO Hunters when it was on. I always wondered what you guys thought of the one season show, Chasing UFOs? Thanks!

[nbirnes]

Brilliant. Seriously. I'm at the point now where I'm only worried about getting out of the way of the falling dinosaurs. They can be mean.

I couldn't figure out how to listing to Art when he was on Sirius and I am skittish about torrents, mostly because I'm on a Mac and don't know how to do it right. I did listen when Skype finally worked and callers were starting to connect. That might have been one of the last shows, ironically.

I'm pretty sure if DMR is extant when Art comes back, it will be legendary.

[MV/Liberace!]

Ding Ding Ding! or Bonk!:  I predict SiriusXM goes belly up bankrupt within the next year, their top brass takes the money and runs, rendering Art Bell's NC null and void.

if that happened, they'd probably be bought out by someone, and that someone would also be buying their existing contractual obligations.  that would include art's nc.

[MV/Liberace!]

I don't think Sirius is being run by folks with any radio experience.

fact, fact, fact.

[nbirnes]

Hi Nancy, I watched Bill on UFO Hunters when it was on. I always wondered what you guys thought of the one season show, Chasing UFOs? Thanks!

Definitely didn't see it. I know there was going to be one with Richard Dolan -- was this the one?

[Ghost Gab]

Definitely didn't see it. I know there was going to be one with Richard Dolan -- was this the one?

No, not Richard. It was on National Geographic for 8 episodes. The co-investigators were Erin Ryder, Ben McGee, and James Fox. Just wondered, thanks. Here is the NG link for the show, in case you want to see whatnit was about.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/chasing-ufos/

[Lt.Uhura]

SiriusXM CEO Jim Meyer said last week, "We're not interested in customers who don't want to pay", which seems counterintuitive to all the free (non-subscriber) streaming services popping up everyday.  This elitist attitude is so typical of corporate America and how out of touch they are with the common folk. 
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101242530

[nbirnes]

No, not Richard. It was on National Geographic for 8 episodes. The co-investigators were Erin Ryder, Ben McGee, and James Fox. Just wondered, thanks. Here is the NG link for the show, in case you want to see whatnit was about.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/chasing-ufos/

Thanks! We lost touch with James. The last time we spoke was when he was filming the Gulf oil spill.

[MV/Liberace!]

SiriusXM CEO Jim Meyer said last week, "We're not interested in customers who don't want to pay"

no prob, jim.  most consumers aren't interested in radio they have to pay for.  funny how that works both ways.

[ItsOver]

SiriusXM CEO Jim Meyer said last week, "We're not interested in customers who don't want to pay"...

After bringing back C2C, they don't seem all that interested in customers who would pay.

[Lt.Uhura]

Oddly there is not one promo or photo for C2C at Sirius XM's fb page.  In fact there are still two photos advertising Art Bell's DM in their album.  Do they even realize he is gone, lol? 

[ItsOver]

Oddly there is not one promo or photo for C2C at Sirius XM's fb page.  In fact there are still two photos advertising Art Bell's DM in their album.  Do they even realize he is gone, lol?

Hahaha...probably not.  Snoory, Art, all the same to Sirius.  Does most of PremRat even know Dave....errr, I mean George Noory is the C2C host?  Just as long as the Carnivora ads keep running, who cares.

[Lt.Uhura]

Hahaha...probably not.  Snoory, Art, all the same to Sirius.  Does most of PremRat even know Dave....errr, I mean George Noory is the C2C host?  Just as long as the Carnivora ads keep running, who cares.

LOL... Yes, and Sirius XM becomes just another business FAIL for the corporate pimps, who'll move right along to a new market to exploit.  Thank goodness for handmade independent media.

[Sambo]

Dark Matter and Art should compete directly against c2c. There's am networks in cities that can't get c2c because their competition has it. A case can be made that c2c has grown enough and has ripened to the point that it is in need of competition

[SixWeekTenure(tm)]

Like MV pointed out earlier, if Art was frustrated with the caller pool on satellite he won't last six weeks with an internet based show. Paranormal is a niche genre to begin with but with no simulcast on AM/FM or satellite, it's a losing effort for the type of show he wants to do.

[jazmunda]

Like MV pointed out earlier, if Art was frustrated with the caller pool on satellite he won't last six weeks with an internet based show. Paranormal is a niche genre to begin with but with no simulcast on AM/FM or satellite, it's a losing effort for the type of show he wants to do.

That is why I think we've seen the last of Art.

[Lt.Uhura]

Like MV pointed out earlier, if Art was frustrated with the caller pool on satellite he won't last six weeks with an internet based show. Paranormal is a niche genre to begin with but with no simulcast on AM/FM or satellite, it's a losing effort for the type of show he wants to do.

Hmmm....beginning next year the FM airwaves are about to be filled with an abundance of non commercial low power community stations, perhaps Art's live podcast could connect with any number of them in a regular rotation of live FM simulcasts from different places around the US.  Skype>FM.   

[Threaten the Hoover]

Thanks! We lost touch with James. The last time we spoke was when he was filming the Gulf oil spill.

It was entertaining, but nowhere near as good as UFO Hunters.  James and Bill should do a show:)

[Spooky Matter]

I spent 55-years in broadcasting in one form or another and content was king until the accountants took over.  Then it was all dollars and cents.  On the news side, reporters and photographers were suddenly considered expenses rather than assets.  Newspapers, and, to a lesser degree, TV had only local news to sell.  By firing local reporters, they cost themselves the only thing they had to sell.  And they wonder why circulation is so far down.

Corporate idiots pride themselves on their creativity, but their creativity amounts to simply copying (at a lower cost) what someone else is already doing.  Or buying something and dumbing it down.

Keith and Art invented the modern connection between radio and the Internet.  They were among the first to experiment with live streaming of a show - at a time that almost everyone was on dialup.  Art's website was an encyclopedia of the paranormal - searchable and with pages for guests and links to their websites.  That was a time when a website address was something like www.gatech.edu/~houser/123/rat_on_mars/dilusional.html and before Google existed to find the topics otherwise.

If anyone can create a new way to share content, I think those two can.  It's going to be interesting to watch (listen) and see.

55 years!  How fucking old are you!?

[Spooky Matter]

Oh no, not forgotten.    Jazmunda, truckers, crappy Spooky Matter show, Chunga, government shutdown, toe nail fungus....damn.

I was totally disgusted with Bell's snotty arrogance at that poor guy Chunga.  If I told someone what to call me and they refused I'd ream them a new one!  I thought that show was great minus Bell and didn't miss the old bag who wasn't on.  There were some fucked up things said about that man here as well.  Whotf do u people think u are? 


Chunga means several things. It is the name or nickname of several people, including:

Micaela Flores Amaya, a flamenco dancer known as "La Chunga."
Bernard Chunga, former Chief Justice of Kenya.
Moses "Bambo/Razor Man" Chunga, a player for the Dynamos Football Club of Zimbabwe and member of the Zimbabwe national football team.
Musonda Chunga a Zambian political candidate.
The character Nieves Cuesta on the Spanish television comedy Aquí no hay quien viva, whose nickname is "La Chunga."

It may also mean:

Chunga, the genus of the Black-legged Seriema and its prehistoric relatives.
The putative protagonist of the title song of the rock music album Chunga's Revenge by Frank Zappa.
Chunga (fanzine), a Hugo-award nominated science fiction fanzine edited by Andy Hooper, Randy Byers, and Carl Juarez.
Chunga Lagoon, a natural feature in Zambia's Lochinvar National Park.
La Chunga (horse), a thoroughbred filly who won the 2005 Albany Stakes (Great Britain) and the 2006 Summer Stakes.
Chunga Choepa, a Buddhist festival.
Chunga is a fragrance for women created by Weil (his last creation) in 1977, now discontinued. The composition consists of notes: aldehydes, bergamot, lemon, peach, clove, jasmine, lily of the valley, linden blossom, orris root, ylang-ylang, amber, honey, musk, Tonka, vanilla and vetiver.

[Juan]

55 years!  How fucking old are you!?

I started as a very, very small child acting in commercials.

[Danger!UFO]

That is why I think we've seen the last of Art.

(Yawn...)

[Jackpine Savage]

I spent 55-years in broadcasting in one form or another and content was king until the accountants took over.  Then it was all dollars and cents.  On the news side, reporters and photographers were suddenly considered expenses rather than assets.  Newspapers, and, to a lesser degree, TV had only local news to sell.  By firing local reporters, they cost themselves the only thing they had to sell.  And they wonder why circulation is so far down.

Corporate idiots pride themselves on their creativity, but their creativity amounts to simply copying (at a lower cost) what someone else is already doing.  Or buying something and dumbing it down.

Keith and Art invented the modern connection between radio and the Internet.  They were among the first to experiment with live streaming of a show - at a time that almost everyone was on dialup.  Art's website was an encyclopedia of the paranormal - searchable and with pages for guests and links to their websites.  That was a time when a website address was something like www.gatech.edu/~houser/123/rat_on_mars/dilusional.html and before Google existed to find the topics otherwise.

If anyone can create a new way to share content, I think those two can.  It's going to be interesting to watch (listen) and see.

This is all true and very indicative of the problem in mass media today: 500 channels, thousands of radio stations and umpteen more websites all saying the same thing. It's worse the more mainstream or closer you get to traditional media. Someone like Art or Dr. Demento would never make it today. Content isn't just suffering, content is dead.

[Danger!UFO]

I subscribe to Dr. Demento. He still puts on a high quality show. He does own his older shows which you can stream with a subscription. Art doesn't have this advantage.

Art will return but it will be on his terms. No corporate a**holes to deal with. I don't think he cares about competing with CtoC. He'll put out a better product even if it is available as a stream or is download. Word will get out. No need to worry.

Can profanity be used on this board?  :

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I subscribe to Dr. Demento. He still puts on a high quality show. He does own his older shows which you can stream with a subscription. Art doesn't have this advantage.

He did a two-hour special on a local LA radio station (110.3) and it was brilliant.  I'm looking forward to "Under the Smogberry Trees."
His show introduced me to Allan Sherman and of course Weird Al.

[McPhallus]

I was totally disgusted with Bell's snotty arrogance at that poor guy Chunga.  If I told someone what to call me and they refused I'd ream them a new one!  I thought that show was great minus Bell and didn't miss the old bag who wasn't on.  There were some fucked up things said about that man here as well.  Whotf do u people think u are? 

People were used to hearing Brendan and that older lady.  They had a certain chemistry.  I think if, given time, people would've warmed up to the Chumbawumba guy.