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Started by Ruteger, August 23, 2013, 04:58:11 PM

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: NowhereInTime on August 28, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
Oh, no, you're quite correct.  As a moral philosopher Smith spoke volumes:

And this one, from Theory of Moral Sentiments best sums up Paper Boy's dismissive and contemptuous relationship to Barack Obama:

"There is not a negro from the coast of Africa (our favorite Kenyan, in this case) who does not, in this respect, possess a degree of magnanimity which the soul of his sordid master (our favorite conservative scourge, PB in this case) is too often scarce capable of conceiving. Fortune never exerted more cruelly her empire over mankind, than when she subjected those nations of heroes to the refuse of the jails of Europe, to wretches who possess the virtues neither of the countries which they come from, nor of those which they go to, and whose levity, brutality, and baseness, so justly expose them to the contempt of the vanquished. "

PB doesn't play the race card. It's safe to say that he feels no contempt for Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams. The above quote is dated too. It fit in the days of Wilberforce.

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on August 29, 2013, 11:49:44 PM
... It's safe to say that he feels no contempt for Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams..


I wouldn't miss a column and recommend them highly

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on August 29, 2013, 11:49:44 PM
PB doesn't play the race card. It's safe to say that he feels no contempt for Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams. The above quote is dated too. It fit in the days of Wilberforce.
No, but he is relentless and vicious in his attacks on Obama.  To him the only correct action Obama could ever take would be to resign.
He doesn't overtly play the race card, but he does play the hate card to anyone left of conservative.
And, not for nothing, all of those quotes are dated. 

Turns out the Dems and Libs weren't ready for a black president.  If anyone criticizes Obama or doesn't want to go along with his proposals or policies they can't handle it.

This guy is a human wrecking ball, and no one is supposed to say anything


NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on August 30, 2013, 12:19:03 PM
Turns out the Dems and Libs weren't ready for a black president.  If anyone criticizes Obama or doesn't want to go along with his proposals or policies they can't handle it.

This guy is a human wrecking ball, and no one is supposed to say anything
Anybody can say anything they want but it would be nice if it were in response to something that's actually happened rather than the constant here which is the hypothetical, worst-case-scenario, presumptuous anticipation of Nth degree evil.
You guys condemn him for acting in Libya.
You condemn him for not doing enough in Egypt.
You condemn for not going to Congress re: Syria.
You condemn him as cyncial when he does put Syria in Congress' lap.
You condemn him for "taking your guns" when not one damn weapon's been seized.
You condemn him for spying when the NSA was around long before he was.
You condemn him for airstrikes on terrorists.
You condemn him for being weak on terrorists. (Benghazi).
You condemn Obamacare when most of it has yet to roll out.
You condemn him for being "weak" on Russia when what the hell has Russia even done?
You condemn him for TARP, even though that started with Hank Paulson.
You condemn him for the auto bailout, even though GM flourishes today.
You condemn him for bailing out Fannie and Freddie, even though both now turn profits.
You condemn him for not supporting the trans-am pipeline to the Gulf even though you can't guarantee one drop will be seen by American consumers.
You condemn him for winning a Nobel Prize; was he supposed to refuse it?
You condemn him for Cap and trade but your solution to pollution? Sit back and light up a cigar.
Your never ending vitriol ("wrecking ball"?) is so steeped in personal antipathy and so light on actual occurrence it strains your credibility beyond the breaking point.

aldousburbank

Rather than wrecking ball, the analogy I think is more representative of President 44 is that of the mars rover. Surveying the landscape, conducting experiments, he goes where it's been determined by others that he should.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: aldousburbank on August 31, 2013, 04:07:15 PM
Rather than wrecking ball, the analogy I think is more representative of President 44 is that of the mars rover. Surveying the landscape, conducting experiments, he goes where it's been determined by others that he should.
Now that's damned intriguing...Geithner, Summers, Goolsby, Shalala, Reich, Clinton, yeah, that's fair.

CampsieNP

Personally I think health care insurance should be manditory the same as car insurance is. Those uninsured people cost all the rest of us. I know people who have insurance offered by their employers and chose not to take the coverage. I asked a coworker how he could decline to sign up for coverage. He said IF he was in an accident, they would/could not leave him busted up on the road and he would get the medical care anyway. Seriously. This problem of uninsured people needed to be addressed. They will receive medical care at some point and I feel it is irresponsible not to pay in for it.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: CampsieNP on August 31, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
Personally I think health care insurance should be manditory the same as car insurance is. Those uninsured people cost all the rest of us. I know people who have insurance offered by their employers and chose not to take the coverage. I asked a coworker how he could decline to sign up for coverage. He said IF he was in an accident, they would/could not leave him busted up on the road and he would get the medical care anyway. Seriously. This problem of uninsured people needed to be addressed. They will receive medical care at some point and I feel it is irresponsible not to pay in for it.
Amen!  Preach it! Lower costs for all by making people live up to their responsibility!

Quote from: CampsieNP on August 31, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
Personally I think health care insurance should be manditory the same as car insurance is. Those uninsured people cost all the rest of us. I know people who have insurance offered by their employers and chose not to take the coverage. I asked a coworker how he could decline to sign up for coverage. He said IF he was in an accident, they would/could not leave him busted up on the road and he would get the medical care anyway. Seriously. This problem of uninsured people needed to be addressed. They will receive medical care at some point and I feel it is irresponsible not to pay in for it.



If only that's what this is about



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NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on September 01, 2013, 12:41:54 PM


If only that's what this is about



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I know the chart is Republispeak snark, but a flow chart that reduces stop offs for marketing costs, pharmaceutical "junkets", swag-bags the persuade Dr Someone to write their drug on scrip next time, and encourages health care insurers to post their pricing in conjunction with other companies can't be all bad.  Even with an office of Minority Health.

Ruteger

Let me ask this of CoastGab members. When you visit your doctor, do you ask him/her/LGBT freak what they think of the train-wreck HusseinCare? I do. 100 PERCENT NEGATIVE is the feedback I receive.

That is empirical science my loquacious Liberal simpletons.

Keep in mind there are more and more people in this country who would rather get handouts than earn it themselves.  And more are being taught they are entitled to it every day.  After just a few decades of this, we're to the point that it keeps an entire political party afloat.

In politics, the easiest thing in the world is to point at someone who is successful, and tell others that person is the reason for their lack of success.  And of course they'd rather believe that than the truth.

Quote from: Ruteger on September 03, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Let me ask this of CoastGab members. When you visit your doctor, do you ask him/her/LGBT freak what they think of the train-wreck HusseinCare? I do. 100 PERCENT NEGATIVE is the feedback I receive.

That is empirical science my loquacious Liberal simpletons.
100 hundred percent feedback from your doctor is empirical science? A sample size of one?

Or is it that it takes a veritable army of trained medical and psychiatric professionals working around the clock, just to keep you (sub) functional and semi compos mentis?  Did the vast and plentiful legions of health care practioners required to keep you from choking to death on your own drool unanimously voice that opinion, or was it just one of your many waking hallucinations?

onan

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on September 03, 2013, 05:38:57 PM
100 hundred percent feedback from your doctor is empirical science? A sample size of one?

Or is it that it takes a veritable army of trained medical and psychiatric professionals working around the clock, just to keep you (sub) functional and semi compos mentis?  Did the vast and plentiful legions of health care practioners required to keep you from choking to death on your own drool unanimously voice that opinion, or was it just one of your many waking hallucinations?

I work with a large team of doctors and allied health care professionals. There is a general consensus that the ACA will be extremely beneficial to most citizens. I play poker with 3 Docs and they too think the ACA will be a good thing. Are there concerns? of course.

But some would rather be bitter and resentful than ever attempt to see this as a positive for all citizens. nothing I can do about that.

Quote from: onan on September 03, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
I work with a large team of doctors and allied health care professionals. There is a general consensus that the ACA will be extremely beneficial to most citizens. I play poker with 3 Docs and they too think the ACA will be a good thing. Are there concerns? of course.

But some would rather be bitter and resentful than ever attempt to see this as a positive for all citizens. nothing I can do about that.
I suspect that your experience in this regard is typical.  Most of the noise I have heard about ACA is from insurance companies, not health care providers.  If doctors, nurses and other actual healthcare professionals, as opposed to actuaries, really opposed it, they could have rallied sufficient support to defeat it.  Didn't happen.

I can also say that it has been a non-issue in my workplace.  We are well into planning our budgets for the next three years, and ACA his been a complete and total non-issue.  No impact to our budgeting for staff costs at all - and we budget to a pretty low level: cell phone plans, office supplies, professional dues, etc. things that might cost 50 bucks a year per employee.  ACA has had zero impact on our benefits.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Ruteger on September 03, 2013, 04:48:25 PM
Let me ask this of CoastGab members. When you visit your doctor, do you ask him/her/LGBT freak what they think of the train-wreck HusseinCare? I do. 100 PERCENT NEGATIVE is the feedback I receive.

That is empirical science my loquacious Liberal simpletons.
That is because,  Herr Ruteger, your doctor,  Josef Mengele, could care less about people.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Paper*Boy on September 03, 2013, 05:22:13 PM
Keep in mind there are more and more people in this country who would rather get handouts than earn it themselves.  And more are being taught they are entitled to it every day.  After just a few decades
of this, we're to the point that it keeps an entire political party afloat.

In politics, the easiest thing in the world is to point at someone who is successful, and tell others that person is the reason for their lack of success.  And of course they'd rather believe that than the truth.
More empirical studies, PB? It is amazing how every assertion is made on the most superfluous of presumptions.
What is in fact the easiest thing in politics is to make presumptions and use them for the foundation of cancerous mistruths.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on September 03, 2013, 06:30:13 PM
... What is in fact the easiest thing in politics is to make presumptions and use them for the foundation of cancerous mistruths.



Don't I know it. 

We've all seen the 'teach in's' rile up a bunch of angry, easily led losers.  Then off they go to tear up a  downtown, burn, loot, and attack the police..

Foodlion

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/09/04/afl-cio-president-trumka-employers-restructuring-workforce-29-12-hour#ixzz2dwtDWx9o
When the supporters of the President, and the supporters of Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) are now admitting they will be cutting their workers hours to 29 1/2 to stay below the 30 hour line, then you just gotta ask you, How great is this thing again?

Ruteger

Liberals are idiots. They feel but do not think. To them the mere act of trying "something" or "anything" even though it fails repeatedly is tantamount to success. Why? Because, by God they TRIED! THEY CARE!

Quote from: Foodlion on September 04, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/09/04/afl-cio-president-trumka-employers-restructuring-workforce-29-12-hour#ixzz2dwtDWx9o
When the supporters of the President, and the supporters of Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) are now admitting they will be cutting their workers hours to 29 1/2 to stay below the 30 hour line, then you just gotta ask you, How great is this thing again?

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