Breaking Bad

[Sardondi]

That was a real kick in the teeth scene. For a minute, I felt sorry for Walt but I also felt sorry for him when Junior refused his cash and told him to die. Walt Sr. really doesn't have a clue.

At one time I thought Jesse wrote 'Heisenberg' on the White family's walls, but now it's obvious it wasn't him. Was it Walt Jr or, even more demeaning, some skater kids or meth heads messing up the place? Walt lost everything, even his money as it's clear the disappearer guy is just waiting for him to die to take it all.

It's looking like "Flynn" did it (Walt Jr.). But knowing these guys and how they love the jarring never-saw-it-coming move, we'll see Walt himself doing it

[Eddie Coyle]

       10 grand for "vaccum salesman" to hang around for an hour and play cards. One of the funniest/pathetic scenes. A long way from the guy looking to hire mercenaries to wipe out Jack's gang.

[sleeplessinca]

       10 grand for "vaccum salesman" to hang around for an hour and play cards. One of the funniest/pathetic scenes. A long way from the guy looking to hire mercenaries to wipe out Jack's gang.

Pathetic especially when he bargained down from 2 hours.

[bateman]

SOMEWHAT INFORMED SPECULATION, PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK:

The last episode is entitled "Felina", which is an anagram for "finale". Also, the word can be made from chemical element symbols Fe (iron), Li (lithium), and Na (sodium). Meaning the respective elements stand for Blood, Meth & Tears.

It's also found in the Marty Robbins song "El Paso". Lyrics here..

MORE SPECULATION AHEAD:

Walt & Jesse standoff in the desert. Walt dies in Skyler's arms.

[sleeplessinca]

The last episode is entitled "Felina", which is an anagram for "finale". Also, the word can be made from chemical element symbols Fe (iron), Li (lithium), and Na (sodium). Meaning the respective elements stand for Blood, Meth & Tears.
It's also found in the Marty Robbins song "El Paso". Lyrics
Walt & Jesse standoff in the desert. Walt dies in Skyler's arms.

This sounds pretty good, Bateman.  I really like the piece about the elements.  I only connected the blood and a bipolar treatment angle. Goose egg for me.
Additional thoughts... El Paso was always a good standby Grateful DEAD song live so someone will die and someone will live. 
Jesse will set up the lab to take out the gang. He will be partly successful.
Flynn - He will save somebody deserving somehow awesomely.
I didn't know the meaning so googled.  If you don't know what that stands for then check the Urban Dictionary link provided for deeper understanding of this late blooming character and some chuckles
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flynn
Marie -will avenge Hank's death by somehow taking out Todd.
Walt Ricin will propbably take him out - yes, probably in Skylar's arm's.
The money will be blown to smithereens in the lab blow-up
Brock, Lydia and Grey Matter?  Stay tuned

[bateman]

This sounds pretty good, Bateman.  I really like the piece about the elements.  I only connected the blood and a bipolar treatment angle. Goose egg for me.
Additional thoughts... El Paso was always a good standby Grateful DEAD song live so someone will die and someone will live. 
Jesse will set up the lab to take out the gang. He will be partly successful.
Flynn - He will save somebody deserving somehow awesomely.
I didn't know the meaning so googled.  If you don't know what that stands for then check the Urban Dictionary link provided for deeper understanding of this late blooming character and some chuckles
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Flynn
Marie -will avenge Hank's death by somehow taking out Todd.
Walt Ricin will propbably take him out - yes, probably in Skylar's arm's.
The money will be blown to smithereens in the lab blow-up
Brock, Lydia and Grey Matter?  Stay tuned

I can only claim the last line as my own theory, the rest was culled from Reddit. The "obvious" conclusion is: ricin for Lydia (though I'm not so sure now, with Gretchen & whatshisname making their reappearance on Charlie Rose), M60 for the Nazis. But that all might be too obvious.

According to IMDB, Badger returns...

[sleeplessinca]

I can only claim the last line as my own theory, the rest was culled from Reddit. The "obvious" conclusion is: ricin for Lydia (though I'm not so sure now, with Gretchen & whatshisname making their reappearance on Charlie Rose), M60 for the Nazis. But that all might be too obvious.

According to IMDB, Badger returns...

I still think you are brilliant and now modest too.  Such a nice young man...
OK - Badger saves Jesse after he blows up the gang he keeps Brock safe while Jesse exacts revenge.   

[eddie dean]

I would be very surprised if Walt goes after the Grey Matter couple. I think the Rose interview Walt saw on the TV, was placed there for a motivational plot tool. It gave Walt yet another example of how much he has lost (everything) and how far down the dark path he is.  It set in motion his final plan, whatever it is, and confirmed to him that he needs to return to NM.
I need to watch the Granite State episode again to verify, but Jr just told him to "die already" and wouldn't accept any money.
Then his trigger, or final straw  was watching these people tell the country that he did nothing but name the business, minimizing his involvement in GM.
He has more pressing issues to take care of, and it doesn't invole the GM couple.

[jazmunda]

Just finished watching the penultimate episode and boy was that one of the most depressing hour plus of tv you've ever seen.

Can't wait for the finale.

[Foodlion]

The last episode has THE best ending of all the BB series thus far.

REVENGE
REVENGE
REVENGE
REVENGE

and Walt acquires his modern-medieval torture device known as the M60!, and whom will get the first chop?

ME thinks it will be in this order
Todd - Get's popped in the face by Jesse after Walt frees him
Jack
The rest of the Nazi gang.

and the Ricin is either for Lynda and her Chamomile/Chicory coffee, or his old Greymatters friends turned backstabbers.

Poor Walt "Flinn" JR won't be driving a nice shiny car anymore, and cereal will never taste the same again. Poor Walt JR lol

[Sardondi]

... and boy was that one of the most depressing hour plus of tv you've ever seen....

The last 3 years have been hellish as far as I'm concerned. I'm trying to think which murder/death Walt was associated with marked the hopeless point. That death which was to make things "easier" for Walt in his empire-building, or which was not just to escape immediate death. Tuco, pure self-defense. I guess so were the guys trying to kill Jesse that Walt ran over. I'm thinking the death which set Walt on the road to being an evil, evil mf, was when he watched Jane choke to death, just to get the girl out of Jesse's life so that Walt could control him. Everything after that was more empire-building killing, even if it at first blush it appeared to be in self-defense, it was still to enable Walt to become a power. The killing of Gale. Certainly the killing of Mike was sheer petulance at not being paid "respect". And after Todd shot the boy on the motorbike, Walt was hellbound for sure. I'm just so sorry for the lives of his kids and how hard it's going to be.

Jeez, it's a tv show, and I'm worrying about "his kids"!

[bateman]

I'm calling it now: Jesse survives with the money. Student becomes teacher.

http://youtu.be/2ykYNdS6dAE

[sleeplessinca]

Everyone dies...


                    ...eventually

[ziznak]

all this speculation on a show known for the good ol "what you thought this? well fuck you its that!"

I want Jesse and Flynn to get out alive and live happily ever after.  Jesse has done a full hero's journey and personally I have an attachment to his character and experience so I'd like to see him doing ok in the end.  Walt is becoming the ultimate tragic hero!! We all now how that ends.  Flynn Holly and Brock are the only innocents on the show now. Every other character has a number of reasons they should be killed.  Holly and Brock are too young to really have any control over anything... but Flynn?  Flynn should have a big part to play.

I'm just saying this is what I WANT to happen... god knows it wont.

[bateman]

I want Jesse and Flynn to get out alive and live happily ever after.

Gay love story!

[bateman]

There've been some theories about parallels to Hamlet. I thought this was especially interesting:

The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.

Walt dies in the desert after a big, bad bloodbath. The money will be gone, his family will be shattered.. In the last episode he said, "it can't all be for nothing." But it will probably will be.

[Sardondi]

There've been some theories about parallels to Hamlet. I thought this was especially interesting:

Walt dies in the desert after a big, bad bloodbath. The money will be gone, his family will be shattered.. In the last episode he said, "it can't all be for nothing." But it will probably will be.

Well, we see shades of Macbeth in the all-out quest for naked power, and King Lear in the destruction of one's family ties because of ego and vanity, and the inability to see true love and the real value in the family. And also the lust-for-power thing is in almost any of his histories.

[bateman]

Well, we see shades of Macbeth in the all-out quest for naked power, and King Lear in the destruction of one's family ties because of ego and vanity, and the inability to see true love and the real value in the family. And also the lust-for-power thing is in almost any of his histories.

Hmm, the King Lear comparison does hold pretty strongly in that last episode. Mad king forced into the wilderness, kingdom in tatters, family deposed..

Of course, Lear dies, leaving the "noble youth" to seize power. Yep, Jesse survives.

[Sardondi]

Hmm, the King Lear comparison does hold pretty strongly in that last episode. Mad king forced into the wilderness, kingdom in tatters, family deposed..

Of course, Lear dies, leaving the "noble youth" to seize power. Yep, Jesse survives.

Hmmm, old, mad, blind king is dying, comes to some sort of resolution and reconciliation. Hmmm, Walt blinds himself in a failed suicide shooting. OR, in an otherwise successful assault on the Aryans, in which Todd and Lydia are killed when the car in which they ride in the initial test run of the Roller Coaster of White Superiority on the run through of all the wonderful rides at Uncle Jack's magnificent Aryan Fun World constructed with the $69-million taken from Walt turns out to have been made with a massively lethal epidermal dose of ricin.

[bateman]

Hmmm, old, mad, blind king is dying, comes to some sort of resolution and reconciliation. Hmmm, Walt blinds himself in a failed suicide shooting. OR, in an otherwise successful assault on the Aryans, in which Todd and Lydia are killed when the car in which they ride in the initial test run of the Roller Coaster of White Superiority on the run through of all the wonderful rides at Uncle Jack's magnificent Aryan Fun World constructed with the $69-million taken from Walt turns out to have been made with a massively lethal epidermal dose of ricin.

You got your hands on a leaked script, didn't you.

[Sardondi]

You got your hands on a leaked script, didn't you.

What gave me away? Was it the Todd-Lydia love story? Or was it Walt perfecting human cloning, and presenting Marie with Hank on the anniversary of his death?

[bateman]

What gave me away? Was it the Todd-Lydia love story? Or was it Walt perfecting human cloning, and presenting Marie with Hank on the anniversary of his death?

I want this to play before the untimely deaths of Todd & Lydia.

http://youtu.be/dDWp-zek4Ic

"98% purity, Lydia." Love & admiration fill her eyes. "Til meth do us part."

/END SCENE

[jazmunda]

Homeless guy does Breaking Bad impressions:

http://youtu.be/KJ9_duvLMWc

[BobGrau]

Hmmm, old, mad, blind king...

He's already lost his glasses.

[Sardondi]

He's already lost his glasses.

Doh! And with Saul as his fool, BB-as-Lear is playing out nicely.

[sleeplessinca]

I heard some inside baseball you all might like. 

A few episodes back they gave a dedication to someone who it turns out is a teenager who was battling cancer.  He was also a big fan of BB who drew Vince Gilligan's attention.  VG and many of the cast/crew struck up a big friendship.   As it became clear things weren't going well for the boy, VG offered to let the kid in on the finale.  The kid said he wanted to make it through and see for himself.  He also asked for more info about the Grey Matter friends.  So that's how they were written in for the perfect WW reboot when he was ready to just turn himself in.

I heard Mike was a happy accident as well.  Someone wasn't available so his character was created as a one-off.  He stuck; a good guy, gone bad, who somehow walked a line until WW and his megalomania came along.

[bateman]

I heard Mike was a happy accident as well.  Someone wasn't available so his character was created as a one-off.  He stuck; a good guy, gone bad, who somehow walked a line until WW and his megalomania came along.

Yep! Bob Odenkirk was unavailable the day(s) they were shooting, so they found Jonathan Banks.

[UnscreenedCaller]

 

A few episodes back they gave a dedication to someone who it turns out is a teenager who was battling cancer.  He was also a big fan of BB who drew Vince Gilligan's attention.  VG and many of the cast/crew struck up a big friendship.   As it became clear things weren't going well for the boy, VG offered to let the kid in on the finale.  The kid said he wanted to make it through and see for himself.  He also asked for more info about the Grey Matter friends.  So that's how they were written in for the perfect WW reboot when he was ready to just turn himself in.

That's so sad, but you know, I really like these guys. They could've written the kid off, but they didn't, and they certainly didn't have to let him in on the finale. Kudos to them. I think JJ Abrams did the same for a terminally ill Trek fan who got to see the rough cut of 'Into the Darkness' as his last wish. Stories like these are a welcome relief from the usual Hollywood self-absorbed, entitled behavior.

[jazmunda]

Anyone nervous/excited for the finale?

[UnscreenedCaller]

Me.  I can't even begin to speculate. I saw the two photos that AMC released. It's amazing how makeup made Cranston look end stage cancer. I really want to know who the ricin is for, and if Walt's using the M-60 on the Nazis and if he does, will he spare Jesse? I don't think there will be any happy endings, but Jesse has suffered enough.

And is Hewell still in that apartment?