Will they ever replace George Snoory?

[mikemcc]

I was just browsing around the other day and did a Google search about George Noory. Why? Because I am a long-term listener to that show and I simply cannot believe how long the powers-that-be at Premiere have allowed this inept, clueless, inane, lame-brained host hang on to his job. When George began his guest-host duties, I thought he would get better, given a bit of time. He didn't. Then, when he took over full-time for Art Bell, I figured he would HAVE to get better or the folks at Premier wouldn't give him more than a year. In the intervening years, George has, if anything, gotten even worse at his job -- which is amazing because he never was any good and I just didn't believe he could actually *get* worse.

I will preface this by saying that I listened to Art Bell since he was doing political discussions on KDWN in Las Vegas. I used to think his show was great after he transitioned to discussions of the paranormal, and, like many others, I suffered through his constant dramas and absences. But this post isn't about THAT show; it's about the "new" Coast To Coast AM with George Noory at the helm...

I have to say that George is, by far, the worst interviewer I have ever heard. He can't conduct an interview to save his life... George is just NEVER prepared -- and hey, they pay him to be prepared to conduct effective interviews. (Or maybe Premiere will say, "No, we pay him to increase ratings...) He constantly steers guests away from areas that are potentially interesting. When the show goes to break, he is INCAPABLE of returning to the topic previously under discussion, even when that discussion was not complete. I think George is doing his taxes during the show. At least he sounds like it... Of course, I understand that he is really scanning FastBlasts for questions -- since he rarely has any but the most generic questions or comments of his own. It's laughable when George cannot find audience-written questions to ask guests on FastBlast because the show pretty much grinds to a halt as he asks questions he has already asked or that his guest has already very clearly answered during his or her presentation. I mean, you can actually hear the gears grinding in George's head -- and the uncomfortable silence on the air -- as he desperately tries to think of *something* -- ANYTHING -- he can ask the guest.

It is almost as if George comes in an hour before the show, learns who the guest and the topic is, and then asks a staff member to write down some generic questions. Then, when he's interviewing, he'll come out of left field to interrupt the guest (who is talking about something really interesting), and ask, "So what got you interested in this profession/interest/research/whatever?" Then we never get back to what the guest was talking about before George interrupted. I can frequently hear the frustration in the guest's voice.

George's constant refrain has become, over the past several months, "I love it." Well, I wish his listeners and guests loved it. It's like George just can't get to callers soon enough so listener's won't expect anything more from him -- he can pretty much stop talking, kick back, and collect a paycheck. Oh, but I got a kick out of it the other night when he was doing a show about oil/alternative fuels and someone asked him what kind of car he drives. I'll paraphrase his response: "Er... I don't like to give that out because someone might follow me. It's American though!" Shoot, what he doesn't want to admit is that it's a big honking Escalade... And he doesn't want us to know that because he realizes the extent to which it will alienate him from the everyday folks who comprise the core of his audience. That, and the fact that he can talk about the price of gas and how irresponsible the government is, but he can drive something that gets about 5 miles per gallon because HE can afford it.

But he doesn't have to worry about incongruities like miles per gallon because he believes in abiotic oil -- that the Earth constantly replenishes it's oil supply. George vehemently opposes the idea that "fossil fuels" are created by decomposition of dinosaurs, as he always puts it. Well, of fucking course not. Fossil fuels were created by all kinds of decaying organic matter like millions and millions of years of trees, grasses, and other plants. Of course there were dinosaurs (and mammals, marsupials, insects, and so on) thrown into that mix, but George, in case you can't figure this out, there are lots of sources of organic matter besides dinosaurs. All you have to do is look at a British peat bog or a Louisiana swamp to realize the vastness of organic matter that used to completely COVER the land masses of the Earth. If you do this, it is not at all difficult to understand how hundreds of millions of years worth of organic matter under tremendous pressure for even more hundreds of millions of years can eventually turn into oil or coal.

Finally, in the last hour of the July 3, 2008 show, Matt Savinar lit into George for spreading this bullcrap about abiotic oil. Basically, Savinar took George apart and did everything except call him an idiot for believing the Earth simply "manufactures" oil with no need for organic matter. I believe at one point Matt actually called George "irresponsible" and it certainly was not lost on critical listeners that Matt was saying, "George, you are a stupid fuck." You could tell Savinar was frustrated with George's idiocy; you could also tell that Savinar didn't care if he was ever invited back on the show. I'll bet that show was his last. It's still on StreamLink as I write this, so if you have access, give a listen. It's funny to hear George being handed his nit-wittery on a plate.

Another thing that bothers me is the extent to which callers routinely begin their discussions with, "George, I love this show and you are the best host I have ever heard." What, do the producers/screeners PAY these people to say these things? Or is this the price of admission to get on the air? Now, I do understand that some people are not especially intelligent -- hell, 1/4 of the adult population of the U.S. cannot point to North America on a map or a globe. (This is true, BTW, not hyperbole.) So, maybe these folks really do think George is a great host, I dunno. But I just do not understand how anyone with one ounce of grey matter can actually believe this. I always have to snicker when someone calls Ian and basically says, "Whew, I'm glad you are on on Sunday nights because I get so sick of how stupid George is during the week." Ian always tries to cover this up as gracefully as possible, but you can tell that he realizes George is an idiot.

So, C2C makes it because it's the only game in town -- well, maybe that's an overstatement because there are some very good local/regional early A.M. shows. But C2C is the only *national* show at that hour of the early A.M. because it's still rolling on the head of steam that Art provided. However, if someone came out and syndicated a quality show that actually deals with the paranormal and various conspiracy-related topics, I've got to believe listeners would abandon C2C in droves.

If the good folks at Premiere are happy with the penetration of this show now, they should try getting a good host and they'd see things getting even better. Why don't they do this? Is it THAT difficult to find an interesting, intelligent, thoughtful, host? I have GOT to believe that the folks at Premier are not complete idiots -- that they can tell the difference between a good host and one who has his head stuck up his ass...

[Max]

Thank you and bravo for such an excellent and well articulated post.

if you have not downloaded that july 3rd show... could you please do so... as a few of us would like to grab some clips.... This guest sounds like his experience would be welcome on this forum... and I would love to see more guests that have had a bad experience on coast to coast post their experiences on this forum. Perhaps when there are over 100 or so premiere might get the point... but I doubt it.

I have to agree with you that if there was another paranormal radio show out there people would drop coast to coast so fast people would not realize it... except when affiliates would drop him... but most of the affiliates are clear channel, which owns premiere... so those affiliates are staying.

Thank you for joining this forum and we look forward to more of your posts!!

[darkfae]

I only listen at all anymore when it seems like a decent guest, or on the off chance Art might do his shows when ever that is. Dropped my Streamlink, its not worth the hard drive space. Almost anything could get me to abandon what little I give it anymore. I thought Ian was bad but you're right Snoory is getting worse.I can't get 30 minutes into it after he reads the news without wanting to pass out to TALK radio ffs. It normally stimulates my brain to keep chugging forward. I think my brain function reverses around him.

[Pirate King Atomsk]

As Max said, "Bravo", indeed! I feel your pain/disgust/confusion. And welcome to the forums! If those are your honest opinions on Noory and the modern C2CAM, you're definitely in the right place. 

Oh, and I doubt they'll ever replace him..unless perhaps...we get bigger than Nighthawkzone or something. Start calling in and expressing our problems. You know, active stuff.

[Loui Zoot]

You know, you wouldn't need a quality show to out do Noory. Just make it entertaining. I think maybe premiere is stupid. They pass over Ian and give coast to coast for Ian. Then Ian gets a prime time show on Saturdays, they cancel that. Ian did a trivia on one of the first C2C Live shows, and went on to explain it more on the next show. The show Noory is on was the one created for Ian. I realize they are all coast to coast, but the format has changed over the years. This floating format crap is something that belongs in a toilet, and someone really should flush it.

Remember the TV show Sightings? Was that quality? I would say not, it was entertaining though. Noory isn't quality or entertaining. A lot of quality paranormal is boring. Ideally a host, and his show would strike a balance.

There is no reason at all Premiere could not have 2 or more shows like Coast to Coast. I vote that keep George for one of them, and call it Coast o Coast for Idiots, and all of his future books have that annoying shade of yellow, and black, that all of the other idiot books have. If they don't like that one, the second option is to have a program called Coast to Coast Kids, televise it, and bring Morgus, and UFO Phil in as science advisers. Too bad Don Adams is dead, Inspector Gadget would be good for the Kids show as well.

The way things are shaping up, Linda Moaning Hole, and Richard See My Overpriced Videos, will be getting their own shows. That'll be known as Coast to Coast: Stupor Friends Unite

[PhantasticSanShiSan]

If they don't like that one, the second option is to have a program called Coast to Coast Kids, televise it, and bring Morgus, and UFO Phil in as science advisers. Too bad Don Adams is dead, Inspector Gadget would be good for the Kids show as well.

The way things are shaping up, Linda Moaning Hole, and Richard See My Overpriced Videos, will be getting their own shows. That'll be known as Coast to Coast: Stupor Friends Unite

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Awesome.

[11angeleyes11]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Awesome.

Yes, George is awseome. Will they ever replace George Snoory?  Never no, no no never.  The decision to leave, if it ever happens I believe will be entirely George Noory's. 

[MV/Liberace!]

Yes, George is awseome. Will they ever replace George Snoory?  Never no, no no never.  The decision to leave, if it ever happens I believe will be entirely George Noory's. 

at this point, i hope he never leaves.  this site's continued relevance depends on it.

[PhantasticSanShiSan]

at this point, i hope he never leaves.  this site's continued relevance depends on it.

Exactly.

[Loui Zoot]

One thing Noory has going for him, is that he is rarely sick, even his vacation time is short, he's pretty dependable. Now dependable isn't the same thing as good. Employers all over America, and probably the world have many employees just like Noory. They aren't all that great, but they can expect a certain level of work out of them consistently. They think inside of the box, and stay inside of the lines, and don't make waves.

With all of the problems, that have caused Art to leave the air all of those times, the Corporation needed someone they could count on. Don't think I'm minimizing the events that surrounded Art leaving some of those times, because one involving his family was truly horrible.

[Frys Girl]

Noory once asked when he was talking to someone recently (can't recall off the top of my head), "Did Hitler Die?"

NO! He lives. He refers to himself in the third person. He says "I love it" a lot. He displays a inferiority complex and is easily threatened.

Someone call the Hague! Bring him up on human rights charges ASAP.
http://www.youtube.com/v/E0aTJyQ_0f0&hl

[Pirate King Atomsk]

It looks like someone throws him toilet paper to get signed around the middle of the video when he's beside Alex, and then all of a sudden I hear: "I love it!".

George and Alex together are a very awkward couple.

[Frys Girl]

A man telling another man, "Thanks. You're sweet" is very awkward indeed.

I also love when he talking and gets drowned out by the microphones and sudden applause.

LOOOOOL! Great catch George. Didn't notice that toilet paper roll before. I wonder what that person did with that....

[Pirate King Atomsk]

I wonder what that person did with that....

I'd have died laughing if the person he tossed it back to just shoved it in his pants, moved it around a bit, and threw it back on the table.

Or maybe just blew his nose in it. 

[Frys Girl]

 died laughing even without him doing that! I like how the wheels turning in George's head are perfectly visible.

"Me sign toilet paper? Me no sign toilet paper. Toilet paper not funny. Me love toilet paper."

[EvB]

Did he actually SIGN it?  I thought he just set it down, signed something else - had some brief conversation, and tossed it back.

[danDNA]

good video. when he is talking but not on the stage is is weird, as if he is a different person, but as soon as he is on the stage he is old george.

after one week of alex jones i would kill myself, that man is just like a preacher but for his own free to view video's.

Does george keep the bog roll for later maybe?

[danDNA]

then alex jones starts 'talking' about evolution.....

[Frys Girl]

An unstated message? You decide!
http://www.youtube.com/v/j9qwf0Xxs48&hl

[Frys Girl]

In the TalkFest Pt 2 clip, something very funny happens. Noory polls the audience by "shouts and screams" whether they felt it neccessary to invade Aghanistan and "do what we needed to do". A little girl in the front row, about 8 years old raises her hand and claps. LOL. Kids.....

[Pirate King Atomsk]

4:20?!

"I love it!"

[Frys Girl]

Ok. I finally discovered which canine Snoory resembles.

Droopy Hound:

[EvB]

Ok. I finally discovered which canine Snoory resembles.

Droopy Hound:

OMHF*Gd you're RIGHT!

[MV/Liberace!]

it's those dopey cheeks.

[Frys Girl]

it's those dopey cheeks.

In addition to the dopey voice. <remembers>"Aw shucks!"

[Dixie Butcher]

This floating format crap is something that belongs in a toilet, and someone really should flush it.

I my God.  Everytime he says "floating format" I want to strangle him.  The man has to name everything - (like labeling Howard Bloom "The Human Brain"  ppphhhhffffffftttt  HAR!!  Idiot! ) - "Floating Format"  is Nooryspeak for  "I don't feel like committing to a full four hours with anyone, my attention span is too short, therefore we'll just do "whatever"  ". 

[Dixie Butcher]

Speaking of having to name everything - in one of the clips he says to Alex Jones something about people being in a pressure cooker,  "Which I call The Pressure Cooker of Life, ..."  God.  He's absurd.

Pressure cooker of...  why I oughtta...

I remember the first time he had Alex Jones on - and the first time he heard the word Illuminati - and the first time he used the term "Illuminati" - incorrectly - he was way off base - had no frickin' clue what it was, he was just playing along, grasping at straws.  It took him quite awhile to "get it".  Not that there's anything to get,  cuz as far as I'm concerned "The Illuminati" is nothing more nor less than a series of books written by Robert Anton Wilson.

I also remember the first time George used the word 'synchronicity" - again,  incorrectly.  And continued to use it incorrectly for a very, very long time.  I'm not so sure he gets it even now.

[Spikegirl]

He also uses the word Karma incorrectly.

[Dixie Butcher]

He also uses the word Karma incorrectly.

Oh, that's right!!   Good catch, Spikegirl !   I actually heard one guest correct him on that and explain what Karma was,  and since then he has still misused the word.  He also misused it in his fucking book.  Along with a ton of other stuff.

[elle]

Replace George?  Surely you kid!  OMG!  Why would Premier want to replace someone so talented? Just because he's taken the the most thought provoking program EVER, and turned it into a late night kiddy show - heck, that's no reason to replace him, that's reason to keep extending his contract.