Art Bell

[Rix Gins]

Open Lines tonight! Does that mean the Grand Poobah Mr. Bell will be manning the Mic and Switchboard?

Nope.  This from trostol at the Midnight In The Desert thread:  Heather Wade
10 mins ·
TONIGHT on Midnight In The Desert it's Open Lines! Anything you want to talk about is fair game. I've received emails and messages from more men claiming to be John Titor. If you are him, call me at (575) 208-7787 from 9 - Midnight Pacific. Also call that line if you hate me, and tell me why.
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[Value Of Pi]

Nope.  This from trostol at the Midnight In The Desert thread:  Heather Wade
10 mins ·
TONIGHT on Midnight In The Desert it's Open Lines! Anything you want to talk about is fair game. I've received emails and messages from more men claiming to be John Titor. If you are him, call me at (575) 208-7787 from 9 - Midnight Pacific. Also call that line if you hate me, and tell me why.
Listen LIVE free at DarkMatterDigitalNetwork.com

That's a new level of either confidence or desperation on Heather's part when she's asking people who hate her to call in. This is like the final days with Heather down in the bunker. "Attack! Attack! What do you mean I have no divisions left???"

Please someone confirm that she really posted that. I want to believe.

[Kolchak]

That's a new level of either confidence or desperation on Heather's part when she's asking people who hate her to call in. This is like the final days with Heather down in the bunker. "Attack! Attack! What do you mean I have no divisions left???"

Please someone confirm that she really posted that. I want to believe.

The "I'm A Fake John Titor Or I Hate Heather" line is confirmed.

[Value Of Pi]

The "I'm A Fake John Titor Or I Hate Heather" line is confirmed.

Wow. That's a "Paint me with honey and lay me down before an army of ants" wow.

[Auslandia]

The "I'm A Fake John Titor Or I Hate Heather" line is confirmed.

Sorry but that sounds like a shot show mixed with a shit attitude. No thanks.

[Lt.Uhura]

The "I'm A Fake John Titor Or I Hate Heather" line is confirmed.

It's just my opinion, but what a waste of perfectly good Friday night live airwaves.  There are a multitude of fascinating and important topics ripe for discussion, but Heather wants to rehash a lousy guest and discuss people's opinion of her?  MITD is really circling the drain.

[Auslandia]

Open lines Friday has always been a cop out

[Value Of Pi]

It's just my opinion, but what a waste of perfectly good Friday night live airwaves.  There are a multitude of fascinating and important topics ripe for discussion, but Heather wants to rehash a lousy guest and discuss people's opinion of her?  MITD is really circling the drain.

Circling the bunker, too. "Traitors, traitors! You treacherous listeners have stabbed me in the back for the last time. But it's not over! No, no, it's not over..."

[Wonderlust]

All I can do is laugh.......nothing like wanting to be the top dog without paying your dues....

Yo,Heather Wade...... Let's see you sink or swim without riding Arts accolades ......

Imo.... Unlike many out there ,You haven't put in the work to hold his seat....you are an opportunist, taking advantage of an old man........sad

[Hog]

It's funny, while I was getting prepped for my open heart surgery three weeks ago I was blatantly honest about my daily pot usage and not one single Doctor, anesthesiologist or nurse was concerned at all. They were way more concerned with cigarette smoking (something I quit cold turkey in 1993) and alchohol drinking (something I've never done) than anything else. Even my cardiologist doesn't have a problem with pot, it's the tars and nicotine from ciggies that really hurt heart patients. Anecdotal evidence I know, but true nonetheless....

This is because there isnt the science based studies and medical school teachings of pot intake studies like there is of alcohol and cigarettes.  Your healthcare professionals cant be concerned about something that they havent been taught about.

There is more tar in pot gram for gram.

Your cardiologist certainly cant be condoning pot use in the cardiac patient, thats bad medicine IMO.

peace
Hog

[Hog]

You're also inhaling a lot less smoke when smoking pot. With cigarettes, you're inhaling it all day long. With pot it's just a couple inhalations a day.

I'd venture to guess that the average pot smoker ventures into territory exceeding 2 inhalations/day.  Ive seen pot users exceed daily tobacco usage on a dried weight basis.
I understand where youa re coming from, but you cant blanket statement peoples intake.

peace
Hog

[PKaiser]

I'd venture to guess that the average pot smoker ventures into territory exceeding 2 inhalations/day.  Ive seen pot users exceed daily tobacco usage on a dried weight basis.
I understand where youa re coming from, but you cant blanket statement peoples intake.

peace
Hog

I smoked ciggies 25 years ago and I inhaled more during one cig than I would on most average days with weed, and I was a pack a day cig smoker....

[PKaiser]

Hot, if there's more tar in weed then why are my lungs so clear? I just spent a week I the hospital and everyone who checked me told me my lungs were absolutely clear.

[Hog]

Hot, if there's more tar in weed then why are my lungs so clear? I just spent a week I the hospital and everyone who checked me told me my lungs were absolutely clear.

What would they say?  I see tar?  Not the way it works.  I know when I describe clear lungs, I'm not talking about tar.

Its a known fact that there is more tar per gram of weed than tobacco.  Of course it depends on how you ingest THC, pipe, joint, waterpipe, bong, non-combustion methods all ahve different mechanisms on the entire resp. system.
Couple all that with the fact that you dont smoke tobacco so your ciliary self cleaning mechanism is in better shape than a tobacco smokers.

You;ve got much non-tobacco time under your belt, almost all the damage you did has fixed itself.

You cant do much worse than smoke tobacco and shots of hard liquor for your body.  The controlled and informed use of THC products by people with developed nervous systems is a pretty safe way to chill out.  As with any intake of substances(drugs/food) it can all be overdone. Moderation is the key.

peace
Hog

[littlechris]

This is because there isnt the science based studies and medical school teachings of pot intake studies like there is of alcohol and cigarettes.  Your healthcare professionals cant be concerned about something that they havent been taught about.

There is more tar in pot gram for gram.

Your cardiologist certainly cant be condoning pot use in the cardiac patient, thats bad medicine IMO.

peace
Hog

There may indeed be more tar in pot, but it's pretty hard to exceed a gram of pot (top shelf) per day. Now if one is smoking schwag weed, then well, I'm sorry. Where as people chain smoke cigarettes and a pack a day( many many grams) is quite normal.

[deltalitprof]

This is because there isnt the science based studies and medical school teachings of pot intake studies like there is of alcohol and cigarettes.  Your healthcare professionals cant be concerned about something that they havent been taught about.

There is more tar in pot gram for gram.

Your cardiologist certainly cant be condoning pot use in the cardiac patient, thats bad medicine IMO.

peace
Hog

Apparently true about the tar, but studies aren't showing the same level of harm in lungs as tobacco causes. And we only have theories about why.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/marijuanatar.asp

[SciFiAuthor]

I'd venture to guess that the average pot smoker ventures into territory exceeding 2 inhalations/day.  Ive seen pot users exceed daily tobacco usage on a dried weight basis.
I understand where youa re coming from, but you cant blanket statement peoples intake.

peace
Hog

I think you can. If you need to exceed a pack or two per day cigarette smoker to get high then you're smoking ditch weed or something.

[zeebo]

It's just my opinion, but what a waste of perfectly good Friday night live airwaves.  There are a multitude of fascinating and important topics ripe for discussion, but Heather wants to rehash a lousy guest and discuss people's opinion of her? ....

You called it.  If you have a rough show you gotta just cut it loose and roll on.  There are alot of other things to discuss, as you say.

[TacoTuesday]

Comparing weed to cigs is an apples to oranges situation that admittedly the scientific test I have read haven't addressed. Most cig smokers consume a pack or two a day, that is 20 to 40 cigarettes. I doubt most weed consumers don't even touch that many joints a day. When I used to smoke dope, it was usually in pipe form and still it was only a few bowls a day.  Of course there are abnormalities like the person that chain smokes a carton or and hippie that smokes a Cheech and Chong joint all day.

[Auslandia]

Apparently true about the tar, but studies aren't showing the same level of harm in lungs as tobacco causes. And we only have theories about why.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/marijuanatar.asp

Pot is mostly smoked unfiltered hence more tar.  But I don't know anyone who smokes upwards of 20 joints per day like cigs.

[Dr. MD MD]

Comparing weed to cigs is an apples to oranges situation that admittedly the scientific test I have read haven't addressed. Most cig smokers consume a pack or two a day, that is 20 to 40 cigarettes. I doubt most weed consumers don't even touch that many joints a day. When I used to smoke dope, it was usually in pipe form and still it was only a few bowls a day.  Of course there are abnormalities like the person that chain smokes a carton or and hippie that smokes a Cheech and Chong joint all day.

Yes, marijuana smokers tend to smoke less than your average cigarette smokers but how much is too much? When I hear people getting into these debates I'm always tempted to butt in and say, "Oh yeah, buddy! Everyone else is an idiot but you've figured out what JUST the right amount is."  :

While we're all biologically the same there are a lot of variances withing that sameness, e.g. differences in height, weight, genetic background etc. Rather than marijuana being a major problem in any way, the thing that is is a problem for us, the thing that is really reaching epidemic proportions is our propensity to call each other out on our own bullshit, as evidence by most of the activity on this forum. People will admit that they smoke a certain amount and it's fine, no problem. However, if they see someone else smoke one more joint than that well, than it's ok to label them a stoner, hippy freak and make fun. Hypocrisy is our major disease and, unfortunately, there's no medication for that. You just have to try to stop being such an asshole for that one to improve. I have little hope of that happening, overall. 

[ge30542]

Girl Noory said, on Facebook, if you hate me, call in and tell me why? Great marketing tool. Where the lines jammed?

[ge30542]

All this talk about weed, dat shit made me null and void.

[bobo17]

Circling the bunker, too. "Traitors, traitors! You treacherous listeners have stabbed me in the back for the last time. But it's not over! No, no, it's not over..."

Folks
She is aware of my meeting this coming week
It is pretty much out of the bag that i will be the nail
in the coffin.  Art and keith have a trememdous amount of respect for
me and i will be bringing lots (over 600 pages) of aminition.

Again, it is overwhelming how much support i have recieved by my fellow bellgabbers.
I hope i can repay the favor with having art say to heather "adios heather".

It goes to show you, when you put your loyalty to an effort (bellgab), you will be rewarded, it may take time, but it will happen.

Heather sees the writing on the wall....she knows the meeting is happening....there is not much more for her to do, except embrace the fact she will soon be history, and take it out on callers "that hate her"

thanks again
bobo

[MV/Liberace!]

There is more tar in pot gram for gram.

most people don't smoke a cigarette's worth of marijuana in a sitting.  not even remotely close.

[MV/Liberace!]

I understand where youa re coming from, but you cant blanket statement peoples intake.

but that's exactly what you did with your stat.

[Value Of Pi]

Girl Noory said, on Facebook, if you hate me, call in and tell me why? Great marketing tool. Where the lines jammed?

I listened for the first hour. I heard her mention having lines open. So no, not jammed. She didn't get much hate either. You can read the response to her request as major indifference. But, you know, there's always self-flagellation, which is sort of what this turned out to be.

[MV/Liberace!]

You cant do much worse than smoke tobacco and shots of hard liquor for your body.  The controlled and informed use of THC products by people with developed nervous systems is a pretty safe way to chill out.  As with any intake of substances(drugs/food) it can all be overdone. Moderation is the key.

peace
Hog

agreed.

[MV/Liberace!]

I listened for the first hour. I heard her mention having lines open. So no, not jammed. She didn't get much hate either. You can read the response to her request as major indifference. But, you know, there's always self-flagellation, which is sort of what this turned out to be.

can anyone send me a copy of last night's show?

[Dr. MD MD]

All this talk about weed, dat shit made me null and void.

Could be you were that way to begin with