Art Bell

[DarKPenguiN]

Hey Dark penguin, I heard that Art is not a fan of yours.

Lies and slander. Mr Spock. Lies and slander.

[GravitySucks]

If anybody is cancelling MITD over these latest developments, I encourage you to consider donating to Mr. fidget's gofundme campaign. He is down, but not out... This is a quote from his thread:

   Greetings Bellgab'rs, I'd like to reintroduce myself. My name is Shaz Rydstedt, pronounced like "Shaw's Ride-sted". Art Bell has known that, although not the rest of this, since the day he got his 5 free fidgets in 1997.
   I am an American, and in this particular post, I am addressing the American's on bellgab. The foreign members of bellgab have no "American rights" or what's remaining of "American civil liberties"... fought for valiantly by my Dad, and countless other Americans. "American constitutional rights" such as "American free speech" are not really available to you, and although you enjoy it here at bellgab... it's MV's gift to you. You should also know my Dad did not endure 24 missions over Germany in the top turret of a B-24 for your rights, so I don't think you owe me. I don't mean to isolate you "foreigners", but you don't have any relevance to what this post is about.
   Some Americans with abundant resources should step up and help me get off the ground, where I actually sleep. It's the right thing to do. If some foreign folks want to help me out, great, but your lifestyle was not made possible by the great sacrifice my Dad, and so many others made. Americans, particularly "accredited investor" types, I hope might feel a sense of responsibility... seeing as how their wealth is only possible to have as a result of sacrifices like my Dad made.
   My Dad, Robert Harold Rydstedt, sought service connected disability since before I was born. He got it in 2005 with the help of Veterans Administration intercession by Missouri Governor Roy Blunt, and a hard working independent VA watchdog. Did he get a retroactive check to make up for the 40 year battle with the VA? Nope, he got a $70 increase in a couple checks before he died.  The most difficult thing I ever had to do was explain to him that the entire concept of "retroactive compensation" was abolished in the 80's and his 40 year wait meant nothing. My little gofundme link at the bottom of this post is my way of passing the hat to try and make the most of my unusual life.
   I am more a product of America than anything else. Both my strengths, and weaknesses are a product of "American experience"... and I have a great deal of it. I'm going to share some of that in this post.
   I was born in Springfield  Missouri in 1968, so I'm 47 as I write this at the end of 2015. I lived with my (unwed) parents in Missouri until I was 5(ish), and then we moved to Boulder Colorado. My Dad found a house, and the three of us lived together for a short time. Dad could not get the "G.I. bill" to buy the house being disabled, but non-service connected. Mom took off shortly, having had problems with Dad... so I stayed with him.
   We traveled extensively, and I saw a majority of the country before I was 10. I was enrolled in many schools. Over my "educational career" I went to 11+ schools in Boulder alone. I also went to others in Springfield, Florence South Carolina, Muskegon Michigan, & in Virginia Beach Virginia.
   My father had shattered his hip (before I was born) falling from a ladder. He was painting a sign for a gas station, the owner of which backed his car into the ladder. Dad had to have a steel pin in his leg, and ever since needed to be in a warm climate... thus all the travel. The station went bankrupt to avoid having to compensate my Dad.
   At age 10 it was clear I was on a "bad path", and to give me some stability my Dad arraigned that I have a guardian. The guardian was a retired division chief from the National Bureau of Standards, which is now "NIST"... The National Institute of Standards Technology. Between the ages of 10-13 I lived with him, and learned how to use all the tools in his top-notch home production shop. This was the first appearance of discipline in my life. Not like "you're grounded" discipline, that I had plenty of. Shop discipline. Such as... use eye protection, & ear protection, perform a pre-use safety check, & a post-use maintenance check. No "fooling around" in the shop, draft a plan, get the materials, then work. Of course, all tools had to go back where they came from.
   Morally I did not have many redeeming characteristics at this point in life. I was rebellious, vindictive, mean, dishonest, and manipulative. That guardian likely saved my life.
   To say I was a trouble maker would be an understatement, I was an unholy terror... as a young child. As a teen and adolescent, I also had some trouble "conforming" to "societal norms". To this day some would consider many of my views "radical", but not in a "harm myself and others" kind of way. I just wish that individuality, and the marvellous blossoming that it nurtures would be more accepted by society. Such is life.
   When you are a "special snowflake", as some have called me (with contempt) in this thread, it's a tough road. My unusual name means I'm always explaining it, I always "stick out"... I'm never "just another joe". I'll always have to cope with society's inability to embrace individuality. It may be a "boy named Sue"' kind of thing at this point, but just imagine what your life would be like as a "unique persona". As a result of this circumstance I have a different world view... to be sure.
   I was also the victim of a wide range of abuse growing up. So much so in fact that there is a "career social service worker" that got into that line of work to keep children from living through the type of trauma I endured. I don't spend my day on the "pity pot", much of the aforementioned trauma built in me a strong character.
   At age 13 the guardian died unexpectedly, and I was back with Dad. Shortly thereafter was a brief stay in a Boulder cooperative of which my Mom was a member. Then I was back with Dad again, dragged actually kicking and screaming from the co-op. I had hidden in a cupboard to avoid going back with Dad. That was an interesting time of my life, with it's own peaks and valleys.
   Dad and I went back on the road nationally, and my "malcontent" behavior continued. Circumstances occurred that put us back in Boulder, and then more circumstances that separated us again... leading me to 2 more sets of guardians. The first of which went to prison (long story), the second of which dropped me off at a group home at age 16. I had signed a contract with them ostensibly stating "if I failed algebra"... I'd move out. I did not pass, and have been on my own ever since.
   More than 30 years down the road from that day... I'm alive, have all my rights with no violent or serious (ie. felonious) criminal history. It is miraculous. I hope to use this diverse set of experiences for more than just gaining "personal wealth". As it stands to go back and pay every old bill, broken agreement, or heartfelt financial responsibility I'll need a six figure windfall. Since insight is a derivative of experience, I'll find a way... just watch.
   By 1991 I was three years sober, a NASD licensed broker (63 & 22) driving a Porsche, and hiring a maid to clean my pad. Although through sobriety I had become basically honest and much less rebellious, I had learned to "close" (read "psychologically manipulate") people into FedXing me their hard earned dough for risky speculative ventures. I made money, the investors did not. The NASD's "sausage factory" of capitalism is as unsightly as it is necessary. Sure, I could use my many years of sales experience to manipulate people into buying some more pre-garbage, but I'd rather ask for help to flourish as a real artist... with an art studio. It would be easy for me to be a bs artist, or a con-artist... but I hope for better.

To be continued...
maybe.

Shaz Rydstedt
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Thanks.

[MR. Spock]

Lies and slander. Mr Spock. Lies and slander.

So from your telling me that Art does not tell the truth?? Dark Penguin, I like you.

[The King of Kings]

No sir, that isn't the implication at all. Full disclosure, I have not kept up with all the players involved.

The dick move was someone asking about/mentioning an inhaler, I guess to die more quickly. How would Art Bell not be negatively impacted by that comment? Would he, should he threaten? well Art did, good or bad. And that was (imo) the intent of the poster making the inhaler comment. That was the dick move.

I have no idea how much time you spend reading the forum. These days, it is a whirlwind. This forum has always been a slight variation on the wild west, without the gunshot wound that would keep many quiet. I like that about this forum.

Just curious onan, I checked when you joined the site, and I am not sure what this site was called when you joined, but from what I can surmise is that once this website was called georgenoorysucks for a substantial amount of time.  During this time many terrible comments were made on a consistent basis about George Noory.  A lot of the comments were equal to if not surpassed anything that I have said.  In particular, Heather Wade herself made several posts about George Noory getting sexually aroused looking at pictures of mutilated children, and how he searches for those images.

Guess what, Art promoter Heather to be his producer and then "fill-in" host for his show.

So I ask.

Are you upset about my comments, or that my comments were about Art?

[Jackstar]

Are you upset about my comments, or that my comments were about Art?

No one is upset at you--you're simply a tiresome idiot, and if you were older than the mustard in my fridge, you'd have clued into that by now.

[onan]

Just curious onan, I checked when you joined the site, and I am not sure what this site was called when you joined, but from what I can surmise is that once this website was called georgenoorysucks for a substantial amount of time.  During this time many terrible comments were made on a consistent basis about George Noory.  A lot of the comments were equal to if not surpassed anything that I have said.

So I ask.

Are you upset about my comments, or that my comments were about Art?

I made many disparaging remarks about noory, none of them were about his family.

[MV/Liberace!]

No sir, that isn't the implication at all. Full disclosure, I have not kept up with all the players involved.

The dick move was someone asking about/mentioning an inhaler, I guess to die more quickly. How would Art Bell not be negatively impacted by that comment? Would he, should he threaten? well Art did, good or bad. And that was (imo) the intent of the poster making the inhaler comment. That was the dick move.

I have no idea how much time you spend reading the forum. These days, it is a whirlwind. This forum has always been a slight variation on the wild west, without the gunshot wound that would keep many quiet. I like that about this forum.

Thanks buddy.

[RealCool Daddio]

add to this the legal threats art is now dropping in my inbox.  yay.  one of the messages said, in a roundabout way, "if you refuse to ban this user and he says something 'libelous' again, i'll sue you."

having had some time to think about his message(s), i've moved from feelings of indifference to contempt.

The man seems to be determined to burn every last bridge, and piss on his own legacy.

You know, I have been on this forum since the original exodus from GLP.  I hate when Bellgab members mention seniority, but fuck it - sort the member page by join date, and I am on the first page.  I came here as an Art Bell fan.  but...

Fuck this guy.

Fuck him for threatening you with legal action.

Fuck him for bailing, again, and again, and again.

Fuck him for his constant airing of grievances, and his endless put-upon ways.

Fuck him for encouraging the trolling of Noory, and then crying foul when he was trolled.

Fuck

[MR. Spock]

Im no fan of George Noory but George does not seems to get butt hurt as much as Art Bell. I guess that noory has thicker skin around his butt then Art does. oh well. How about the LA Rams??

[The King of Kings]

No one is upset at you--you're simply a tiresome idiot, and if you were older than the mustard in my fridge, you'd have clued into that by now.

Cuckstar is mad that he never made an impact here.

[ge30542]

No one is upset at you--you're simply a tiresome idiot, and if you were older than the mustard in my fridge, you'd have clued into that by now.

Ya know, Surely I'll get ripped for this, BUT, king is correct. You can read thousands of horrible posts about noory, really horrible, but Art Bell is off limits?
I don't get it.

[Jackstar]

Cuckstar is mad that he never made an impact here.

It's interesting that you've named your inner child after my glorious brilliance. What you lack in common sense, you certainly make up for in self-esteem.

[SciFiAuthor]

After Art quit, I knew there was going to be massive blowback. At that moment, I decided I wasn't going to moderate the forum. There were a lot of seemingly obvious reasons for that. Sorry you disagree. Ooh well.

You're here now, sugar. Enjoy!

Kind of a bad business move though. You traded a draw for a drag that no one gives a fuck about. Granted that draw behaved stupidly throughout this, but no one is here for trolls other than the trolls.

[MR. Spock]

The man seems to be determined to burn every last bridge, and piss on his own legacy.

You know, I have been on this forum since the original exodus from GLP.  I hate when Bellgab members mention seniority, but fuck it - sort the member page by join date, and I am on the first page.  I came here as an Art Bell fan.  but...

Fuck this guy.

Fuck him for threatening you with legal action.

Fuck him for bailing, again, and again, and again.

Fuck him for his constant airing of grievances, and his endless put-upon ways.

Fuck him for encouraging the trolling of Noory, and then crying foul when he was trolled.

Fuck

If Art does not like incoming, he should NOT send out going rounds.

[MV/Liberace!]

Im no fan of George Noory but George does not seems to get butt hurt as much as Art Bell. I guess that noory has thicker skin around his butt then Art does. oh well. How about the LA Rams??

George has alluded to possible legal action in the past, here and elsewhere. He's not without a history in this sort of thing.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

The man seems to be determined to burn every last bridge, and piss on his own legacy.

You know, I have been on this forum since the original exodus from GLP.  I hate when Bellgab members mention seniority, but fuck it - sort the member page by join date, and I am on the first page.  I came here as an Art Bell fan.  but...

Fuck this guy.

Fuck him for threatening you with legal action.

Fuck him for bailing, again, and again, and again.

Fuck him for his constant airing of grievances, and his endless put-upon ways.

Fuck him for encouraging the trolling of Noory, and then crying foul when he was trolled.

Fuck

Hahaha, I didn't know about that. I just looked and found one of my names "Victory Ali" on the first page as well.

...seven years of this place...



Yes, I second everything you just said.

[MR. Spock]

George has alluded to possible legal action in the past, here and elsewhere. He's not without a history in this sort of thing.

I guess that Art is taking a page from Noory then.

[onan]

George has alluded to possible legal action in the past, here and elsewhere. He's not without a history in this sort of thing.

Heck, how many times has legal action been threatened? Noory, if I remember, didn't he?

[The King of Kings]

Kind of a bad business move though. You traded a draw for a drag that no one gives a fuck about. Granted that draw behaved stupidly throughout this, but no one is here for trolls other than the trolls.

You let MV worry about business.

You stick to "trolling" the trolls.

Secondly, where are you going to go SciFiAuthor?  You have invested so much time here, you ain't going anywhere.

[VictoryAli]

Hahaha, I didn't know about that. I just looked and found one of my names "Victory Ali" on the first page as well.

...seven years of this place...



Yes, I second everything you just said.

Fuck you Quimby.

[Hoghead96]

Fight the Power MV

[SciFiAuthor]

You let MV worry about business.

You stick to "trolling" the trolls.

You do not result in page views.

[The King of Kings]

You do not result in page views.

Okay.

[DarKPenguiN]

I guess that Art is taking a page from Noory then.

Thats because Noory "gets it" =P

Anyhow, I didnt know that. I only saw the way Noory handled the trolling from a few years ago and it was handled masterfully imho. Maybe he hired some good PR people or something? IDK but he gained alot of respect from me and I think he sucks as a host.

[The King of Kings]

Thats because Noory "gets it" =P

Anyhow, I didnt know that. I only saw the way Noory handled the trolling from a few years ago and it was handled masterfully imho. Maybe he hired some good PR people or something? IDK but he gained alot of respect from me and I think he sucks as a host.

Some trivial history.

Back in the day Noory used to threaten to sue the Fantastic Forum for bashing him all the time.  This way back in 2002 or 2003, I don't remember.

There like here the fantastic forums peak active membership was 30-50 members.

[onan]

Thats because Noory "gets it" =P

Anyhow, I didnt know that. I only saw the way Noory handled the trolling from a few years ago and it was handled masterfully imho. Maybe he hired some good PR people or something? IDK but he gained alot of respect from me and I think he sucks as a host.

noory has done similar things in the past. I think Lonevoice can explain it much better than I can. But, as I remember it, noory visited two forums prior to GNS.com. There he was able to sew enough seeds of contempt that the forums died. He tried that here, but MV couldn't be bought.

[malachi.martini]

The man seems to be determined to burn every last bridge, and piss on his own legacy.

You know, I have been on this forum since the original exodus from GLP.  I hate when Bellgab members mention seniority, but fuck it - sort the member page by join date, and I am on the first page.  I came here as an Art Bell fan.  but...

Fuck this guy.

Fuck him for threatening you with legal action.

Fuck him for bailing, again, and again, and again.

Fuck him for his constant airing of grievances, and his endless put-upon ways.

Fuck him for encouraging the trolling of Noory, and then crying foul when he was trolled.

Fuck

We've reached critical mass.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Who would have thought out of everyone and every possible scenario, Falkie would come out looking the best?

[RealCool Daddio]

Heck, how many times has legal action been threatened? Noory, if I remember, didn't he?

He did.  I and others offered support then (you as well, my brother) and I am sure we will this time.

[The King of Kings]