Art Bell

[ponyboysunset]

First days of no Art were easy because we had so many bellgab spinoff podcasts to listen to

But it's starting to slow down. and this weeks episode of PNI didn't seem kid friendly, so now I search the world for something good to listen to.

Thinking about obtaining that huge torrent and giving it a go.

Uh no, we are not kid friendly but a little more so than usual this week. And something good would be anything besides our podcast  :

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

That will leave that odious working class hardly literate oik from Yorkshire who is the heathen freak.

Report him.

Don't be so hard on yourself! Coal mining's a noble profession!   

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

SV knows. He committed himself to writing a very Falkie Christmas Carol and he was trying to weasel out of it.

I kid our friends on the wrong side of the Big Pond. Except Yorkie. That's for realz.

[malachi.martini]

You make some good points, and my theory may be wrong.  But, while he may not be PW in the traditional sense of the word, it's not a traditional situation.  Art is 70 and ugly; his wife is 30 and attractive.  Sure, Art could theoretically tell her to hit the road, or hit the road himself, but he knows he's not going to be able to land another woman who's nearly as attractive as she is.  And Art doesn't seem to be able to live without a woman.  His only realistic option would be another Filipino mail order bride, and most of them don't look like his wife does, and a whole bunch of them are nasty-looking, golddigging whores.  Generally speaking, whichever spouse has the higher value on the sexual market is in charge.  And Airyn's sexual market value is far higher than Art's.

True, we've heard him say how Ramona did literally everything for him, even pay his electric bills and buy food for the house. I think he's used to the kind of cartoonish servitude you find imposed on women in religious cultures. Airyn is a devout Catholic, so this makes sense.

The real question becomes is Airyn's sexual currency higher than Heather's? Too soon?

Actually, in a traditional marriage, it's a lot much.  Why would a 30 year old woman that looks like Airyn be with a 70 year old man that looks like Art in the first place? But this isn't a traditional marriage, and I doubt if Airyn gets out much.  In fact, I doubt if she has any girlfriends, and if she does, she certainly doesn't go out on girls' nights out with them.  Art may be crazy, but he isn't stupid, and I'm sure as sure can be that  she rarely, if ever, leaves the house without him.  He doesn't want her being exposed to younger men who can hit on her. And, yeah, I'm sure many nights she doesn't mind being by herself, but not every night; even people in prison hate solitary confinement.  So most of the time having Art to talk to beats having no one.  And she probably does get tired of having to raise their daughter by herself because Art's always sleeping, broadcasting, or on his ham radio.
.

Yeah. That's incredibly dark any way you slice it.

I agree that he's not right in the head.  But, you can be skitzo and PW, too.  And if, as you suggest, there are far stranger goings on than we have imagined, it's not outside the realm of possibility to think that in ten years of marriage Airyn has learned one or more things that Art is very keen on keeping private.  If that's the case, that gives her even more leverage.

Interesting point, I hadn't considered that. Married in the Philippines, she's catholic, I'm not sure how much leverage she has outside of their child. I still think given his track record, he'd sooner hazard finding different company, perhaps not even romantic, to sustain him than stay with someone who's dictating how he spends his time. I mean he called Heather not Airyn when his life was supposedly under threat outside? Besides that, telling an audience that your wife and daughter want to spend more time with you is a far more sympathetic proposition for them. It's an easier out than a convoluted unseen shadow person threat narrative?

But, again; you make some good points, and I could be way off.  But it's a theory that makes a helluva lot more sense than the load of retarded horseshit that Art's been peddling.

Absolutely.

[Yorkshire pud]

I kid our friends on the wrong side of the Big Pond. Except Yorkie. That's for realz.

Too bastard right it is, and don't ever ever forget it Mister! Mary.

[FightTheFuture]

FIFY. And yes. 

I agree....I really think he`ll be back

[FightTheFuture]

I think so, but near as I can tell, he owes some people.

Yeah, I`ll probably just check in from time to time and see what the scoop is.

[Chronaut]

I think the truth is probably far stranger than anyone on Bellgab has publicly expressed.

[PB the Deplorable]

How is a guy whipped, when he makes up his own preferred version of his wife's name, despite her never having been called that before? That would make him more of an ass, not whipped.

I think he first met her through an email she sent expressing sympathy for Ramona's death (she was a friend of someone one of Art's friends married).

He saw her name Ayrin, and thought it was pronounced Erin, but it was actually pronounced Irene.  By the time he realized that, he already knew her as Erin and asked her if it was ok to stick with that.  Lots of people go by nicknames or whatever, it's no big deal if she doesn't mind.

[AZZERAE]

If there is anyone in entertainment that deserves to be called a genius it's Phil.

UFO Phil?!

[dan7800]

Wow, the haters of Art are out in full force.

I once heard that he picked on a classmate in 2nd grade and called them a poop head.

Discuss.

[BellBoy]

SV knows. He committed himself to writing a very Falkie Christmas Carol and he was trying to weasel out of it.

As he was complaining of both writer's block and severe cramping, the other day, I forwarded him a draft of my proposed ending to the saga:


Falkie's Christmas Carol

Final Stave

Art Bell quits. Jesus wept.

[Q-Pi]

I once heard that he picked on a classmate in 2nd grade and called them a poop head.

If he did, it was in Morse Code

[dan7800]

For all the people here who are ragging on Art, it shows how much they meant to him.

Jimmy Church left the DMRN, and who cares. The guy was a bum. We don't talk about it for threads on end.

[Yorkshire pud]

For all the people here who are ragging on Art, it shows how much they meant to him.

Jimmy Church left the DMRN, and who cares. The guy was a bum. We don't talk about it for threads on end.

You have a remarkable scope when it comes to defining rage or hate. I don't think either has been expressed, unless you think calmly unpicking threads of a story is rage? I think you've expressed a lot of emotion though.

[Ciardelo]

For all the people here who are ragging on Art, it shows how much they meant to him.

Jimmy Church left the DMRN, and who cares. The guy was a bum. We don't talk about it for threads on end.

+1? I think.

Are you saying the volume of "digs cleverly disguised as concern" and "this is what I would have done" postings etc. display how much he must mean to them? I think you might be right.

[Chronaut]

Wow, the haters of Art are out in full force.

Have a look at this thread about a week back: you're gonna wanna update your definition of "full force."  I recommend a Xanex, two fingers of scotch, and a crucifix, for the intrepid journey ahead.

[Ciardelo]

You have a remarkable scope when it comes to defining rage or hate. I don't think either has been expressed, unless you think calmly unpicking threads of a story is rage? I think you've expressed a lot of emotion though.

I admire your tenacity to remain aloof in all the proceedings yet you display an intricate knowledge of exactly what is going on. You're like our BellGab house cat that refuses to be petted yet keeps her ears cocked backwards towards the room. Well done!

May we call you Yippy?

[malachi.martini]

Anything that's not unthinking praise of Art.

[Yorkshire pud]

I admire your tenacity to remain aloof in all the proceedings yet you display an intricate knowledge of exactly what is going on. You're like our BellGab house cat that refuses to be petted yet keeps her ears cocked backwards towards the room. Well done!

May we call you Yippy?

You can call me what you like, neither is my real name.  Jeeze I'm not aloof, but it is amusing you've been here four months and imply you're in the playground gang.

[ge30542]

I admire your tenacity to remain aloof in all the proceedings yet you display an intricate knowledge of exactly what is going on. You're like our BellGab house cat that refuses to be petted yet keeps her ears cocked backwards towards the room. Well done!

May we call you Yippy?

Amazing! After 4 short months, Ciardelo is one of the cool kids. Didn't take long at all.
Good for you C.

[PB the Deplorable]

For all the people here who are ragging on Art, it shows how much they meant to him...

That, or he cried wolf once too often and people just finally really had enough

[ponyboysunset]

Bwhahahahahahaha! How dare yew, sir! I am appalled at this outlandish attack!

[Ciardelo]

You can call me what you like, neither is my real name.  Jeeze I'm not aloof, but it is amusing you've been here four months and imply you're in the playground gang.

Guilty as charged old-timer. I came for Art's newest latest show. Probably wont be here for long. You'll still be here spewing unwanted advice long after I leave. So there's that. lol

And you are aloof on top of being cliquish. Feel the burn man

[Ciardelo]

Amazing! After 4 short months, Ciardelo is one of the cool kids. Didn't take long at all.
Good for you C.

I probably went a little heavy on the whole "we" thing. Sorry

[Night Train]

Actually, I guess there is a slight possibility that Art is telling the truth. 

Maybe the stalker is a SiriusXM bigwig who recruited him for Dark Matter, and then got fired when Art quit six weeks into the show?

And maybe he's only got one leg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uxb67rOTY

[Yorkshire pud]

Guilty as charged old-timer. I came for Art's newest latest show. Probably wont be here for long. You'll still be here spewing unwanted advice long after I leave. So there's that. lol

And you are aloof on top of being cliquish. Feel the burn man

<sigh> Cliquish? Can I help it if people want to feel my warmth?

[BobGrau]

The ultimate conclusion is that AB isn't broadcasting. The reason I think is boredom with trotting out the same things with the same people from before the internet , tiredness (understandably) and tiredness in trying to resurrect a once great genre that is now flooded.

I believe he knew this before he restarted, but thought he'd feel different when he did restart. He doesn't need the money (we're told), but what he does need isn't there for him, namely the love of the gig. That isn't a criticism at all; he owes nothing to anyone, it would be like having a pop at Ronnie Barker when he called it a day performing and went instead into antiques. He knew his time had passed, but that wouldn't take away his brilliant past in TV.

How AB moved on though is the suspect thing. This is where the conclusions of his departure method differ; Those who accept unquestioningly what he's posted, had posted on his behalf. In the film Minority Report, the character played by Colin Farrell says the crime scene supposedly left by Tom Cruises character is too evidence heavy (or words to that effect).

       The similarity in the case here is that there's lots of alleged evidence, but nothing of substance. Nothing. Not only that, but AB has seemingly (if what he says is true; but is it?) deliberately avoided making plans to keep his family from harms way. Is that logical? His daughter is terrified curled up on the floor and he does what? Tells everyone!
         Not up sticks and drive somewhere anonymous to put them out of harms way which is what normal adult human behaviour would be faced with small arms fire at night.
        Then the police statement about not pursuing the case because of lack of any evidence; and also factor in that AB doesn't want to have it investigated, the first step being would be to furnish the police with names of anyone who he thinks might wish to do him and his family harm. A perfectly natural question the police would ask.

Why make it up though? Drama. And a 100% unarguable reason to those who matter, namely the network and affiliates. Only I think that's backfired. The fall out from simply saying 'I've had enough, I'm taking my ball home' would be really bad; but at least it would be honest.


So Bob; in answer to your question, the conclusion is, do we accept the version verbatim or not. And if not, might it because hardly any of it adds up? I'm used to puling things apart, and problem solving stuff that breaks and doesn't work. Which means starting from a base line and going from there, and not assuming part M will work, just because it did yesterday. In other words, work with what you have, not what you'd like to.

I asked before but no-one could answer ir; what if Noory had spun the same yarn because he decided he'd had enough? I'm sure he'd be knocked into next year because he would be universally disbelieved, because he's Noory, and because the story was likely made up.

That's not a conclusion.

[Chronaut]

Anything that's not unthinking praise of Art.

You're mistaking "unthinking praise" for "rational thought," again.  But there's no convincing the Art Bell Truthers.  While rational people understand that man actually landed on the Moon, that the fall of the Twin Towers was not controlled demolition by the secret government, there were no WMD's in Iraq, and Art Bell was forced off the air by some dickbag stalker...those unversed in the esoteric art of arithmetic prefer to mistake their wild imaginings for a reasonable argument...and continue to deflect criticisms of their flawed mental processes with straw man accusations of blind fealty.

And round and round we go.  Just another day at the BellGab sideshow, step right up.

[Ciardelo]

<sigh> Cliquish? Can I help it if people want to feel my warmth?

I see your dilemma. Your people need you don't they?  I'm experiencing a similar problem with another forum. Perhaps you can advise me if they become too cloying?