Art Bell

[Inglorious Bitch]

Oh goody!  He only halted the show!  Guess he'll be back tonight.

Well then, we all stand corrected. And here we were upset because we thought he had hung up the mike for the last time.

[AZZERAE]

Interview of Art in Pahrump Valley Times newspaper regarding the incidents at his home. I had no idea he had to lay in the dirt for 20 minutes. http://pvtimes.com/news/art-bell-halts-radio-show-after-string-alleged-events-residence.html?m&m

No fingerprints on the lone beer, I guess. No DNA analysis? I mean, it was open, was it not?

[ponyboysunset]

Interview of Art in Pahrump Valley Times newspaper regarding the incidents at his home. I had no idea he had to lay in the dirt for 20 minutes. http://pvtimes.com/news/art-bell-halts-radio-show-after-string-alleged-events-residence.html?m&m

Omg this is not helping. LOL  Ok I'm going ask it and you all can post your beating a dead horse gifs (I like them anyway but be careful Jazmunda is out there lol) why on earth did he not call the police himself? He had Heather do it? I feel sorry for you people who are still defending him at this point. And also he suspects who the stalker is? You know that old saying give someone enough rope and they'll...

[ponyboysunset]

Well then, we all stand corrected. And here we were upset because we thought he had hung up the mike for the last time.

You better watch it or you will have a semantics argument on your hands. Oh wait he quit posting here, carry on  :

[AZZERAE]

why on earth did he not call the police himself?

Because Redacted is his lackey, and Art can do no wrong?

It's an interesting loophole, a clever way to get a third party involved, isn't it?

Why would Redacted even know he'd been shot at? He was in the middle of a radio broadcast interview - how was she to know? I guess she cottoned on somehow during the commercial break, or the two of them had had communication.

And "Re:" The Pahrump Valley Times article, allow me to summarize:

1) The Nye county Sheriff's Office weren't able to verify any of the claims.
2) The investigation is closed.
3) The pigs did not see anything in the area.
4) Art says he didn't even hear the gunshots.

I don't think Art is a liar, newspapers and blogs get details wrong all the time. But look closer, and read carefully folks. As closely as you listened to all the shows over the years.

[bellNwhistle]

Because Redacted is his lackey, and Art can do no wrong?

It's an interesting loophole, a clever way to get a third party involved, isn't it?

Why would Redacted even know he'd been shot at? He was in the middle of a radio broadcast interview - how was she to know? I guess she cottoned on somehow during the commercial break, or the two of them had had communication.

And "Re:" The Pahrump Valley Times article, allow me to summarize:

1) The Nye county Sheriff's Office weren't able to verify any of the claims.
2) The investigation is closed.
3) The pigs did not see anything in the area.
4) Art says he didn't even hear the gunshots.

I don't think Art is a liar, newspapers and blogs get details wrong all the time. But look closer, and read carefully folks. As closely as you listened to all the shows over the years.

I don't know about the other incidents, because my focus was on the Oct 21st one.. but he was getting texts from neighbors about what was happening, and keeping in touch with his wife (and no doubt Keith and Heather) the same way.  I think if you're running a show, and your producer and Keith (sorry, I'm not sure of his title) hear you go off the air because of something happening (which Keith himself said on Friday has almost never happened during a live show), then you find out what the hell is going on.

But at this point, all of the litter is out of the cat box, the cat has run off, and we're still here sorting through what's crap and what's not.  It's tedious and stinky, and time to move on.

[ponyboysunset]

Why would Redacted even know he'd been shot at?

This has confused me from the start.
And why continue to talk about it? Well I like a good mystery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTTxDWZcbxI

[AZZERAE]

It's tedious and stinky, and time to move on.

I don't believe it is tedious myself, it is quite relevant. Nor will I move on, but you go right ahead!

This has confused me from the start.  And why continue to talk about it? Well I like a good mystery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTTxDWZcbxI

If you haven't already, you need to watch that episode of South Park from Season 3 entitled "Korn's Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery". It'll be right up your alley. 

[bellNwhistle]

I don't believe it is tedious myself, it is quite relevant. Nor will I move on, but you go right ahead!

I'm actually not quite ready to move on..  but what choice do we have?

Still listening to old Art shows at night. 

[ponyboysunset]

If you haven't already, you need to watch that episode of South Park from Season 3 entitled "Korn's Groovy Pirate Ghost Mystery". It'll be right up your alley. 

All over it, sir. But thank you for recommending it. The Antonio Banderas love doll.

As for moving on, he said hiatus. Geesh BellNWhistle I expect more from you 

[bellNwhistle]

All over it, sir. But thank you for recommending it. The Antonio Banderas love doll.

As for moving on, he said hiatus. Geesh BellNWhistle I expect more from you 

[Yorkshire pud]

Omg this is not helping. LOL  Ok I'm going ask it and you all can post your beating a dead horse gifs (I like them anyway but be careful Jazmunda is out there lol) why on earth did he not call the police himself? He had Heather do it? I feel sorry for you people who are still defending him at this point. And also he suspects who the stalker is? You know that old saying give someone enough rope and they'll...

We both know (and others who share the same view) that when the real story comes out, our pm's will be full of messages from the 'die hard AB can do no wrong ever,' crowd apologising for the invective and accusations that we were stupid. They'll confirm that yes, if they'd looked at the allegations as presented from the beginning and taken the emotion out of it, they too would have reached the same conclusion, and that as the story has developed it makes less and less sense and the story as told, looks more and more suspect.

In other news a pig flew and a cow jumped over the Moon. 

[Element 115]

Because Redacted is his lackey, and Art can do no wrong?

It's an interesting loophole, a clever way to get a third party involved, isn't it?

Why would Redacted even know he'd been shot at? He was in the middle of a radio broadcast interview - how was she to know? I guess she cottoned on somehow during the commercial break, or the two of them had had communication.

And "Re:" The Pahrump Valley Times article, allow me to summarize:

1) The Nye county Sheriff's Office weren't able to verify any of the claims.
2) The investigation is closed.
3) The pigs did not see anything in the area.
4) Art says he didn't even hear the gunshots.

I don't think Art is a liar, newspapers and blogs get details wrong all the time. But look closer, and read carefully folks. As closely as you listened to all the shows over the years.

[ponyboysunset]

I am now off to find more beating a dead horse gifs.Cheerio! 

In other news thanks to Art Bell I just discovered Phil Hendrie and I am now laughing like a loon at work. The Jimmy Hoffa bit is particularly funny because Hendrie talks about Art retiring and returning again and gain. Hmmm....I would link it but it is not on youtube and I am gladly forking over my money to Hendrie. He also talks about what Art is doing while retired. It's just a classic bit.

[BobGrau]

We both know (and others who share the same view) that when the real story comes out, our pm's will be full of messages from the 'die hard AB can do no wrong ever,' crowd apologising for the invective and accusations that we were stupid. They'll confirm that yes, if they'd looked at the allegations as presented from the beginning and taken the emotion out of it, they too would have reached the same conclusion, and that as the story has developed it makes less and less sense and the story as told, looks more and more suspect.

In other news a pig flew and a cow jumped over the Moon. 

Have you reached a conclusion? Not having a go at you particularly, I'd just like to hear an actual alternate version of events rather than everyone trying to advance-book their "I told you so" time with vague not-even-half suggestions.

[ACE of CLUBS]

Art may come back ...... good for him.
But, 'the bloom is off the rose' ......
Paranormal has been beat to death,
Twenty years ago, it was new and exciting ....
Now, not so much.

It's all the 'drama' that Art Bell thrives in ....
Gets tiring and old now.
Time to expand other interests,
For both Art and listeners ....

[ge30542]

In other news a pig flew and a cow jumped over the Moon. 

Brilliant!

[Philosopher]

In other news a pig flew and a cow jumped over the Moon. 

This, of course, is a matter of contention.

[Yorkshire pud]

Have you reached a conclusion? Not having a go at you particularly, I'd just like to hear an actual alternate version of events rather than everyone trying to advance-book their "I told you so" time with vague not-even-half suggestions.

The ultimate conclusion is that AB isn't broadcasting. The reason I think is boredom with trotting out the same things with the same people from before the internet , tiredness (understandably) and tiredness in trying to resurrect a once great genre that is now flooded.

I believe he knew this before he restarted, but thought he'd feel different when he did restart. He doesn't need the money (we're told), but what he does need isn't there for him, namely the love of the gig. That isn't a criticism at all; he owes nothing to anyone, it would be like having a pop at Ronnie Barker when he called it a day performing and went instead into antiques. He knew his time had passed, but that wouldn't take away his brilliant past in TV.

How AB moved on though is the suspect thing. This is where the conclusions of his departure method differ; Those who accept unquestioningly what he's posted, had posted on his behalf. In the film Minority Report, the character played by Colin Farrell says the crime scene supposedly left by Tom Cruises character is too evidence heavy (or words to that effect).

       The similarity in the case here is that there's lots of alleged evidence, but nothing of substance. Nothing. Not only that, but AB has seemingly (if what he says is true; but is it?) deliberately avoided making plans to keep his family from harms way. Is that logical? His daughter is terrified curled up on the floor and he does what? Tells everyone!
         Not up sticks and drive somewhere anonymous to put them out of harms way which is what normal adult human behaviour would be faced with small arms fire at night.
        Then the police statement about not pursuing the case because of lack of any evidence; and also factor in that AB doesn't want to have it investigated, the first step being would be to furnish the police with names of anyone who he thinks might wish to do him and his family harm. A perfectly natural question the police would ask.

Why make it up though? Drama. And a 100% unarguable reason to those who matter, namely the network and affiliates. Only I think that's backfired. The fall out from simply saying 'I've had enough, I'm taking my ball home' would be really bad; but at least it would be honest.


So Bob; in answer to your question, the conclusion is, do we accept the version verbatim or not. And if not, might it because hardly any of it adds up? I'm used to puling things apart, and problem solving stuff that breaks and doesn't work. Which means starting from a base line and going from there, and not assuming part M will work, just because it did yesterday. In other words, work with what you have, not what you'd like to.

I asked before but no-one could answer ir; what if Noory had spun the same yarn because he decided he'd had enough? I'm sure he'd be knocked into next year because he would be universally disbelieved, because he's Noory, and because the story was likely made up.

[Yorkshire pud]

This, of course, is a matter of contention.

[Ciardelo]

TL:DR

[transistorundermypillow]

I am now off to find more beating a dead horse gifs.Cheerio! 

In other news thanks to Art Bell I just discovered Phil Hendrie and I am now laughing like a loon at work. The Jimmy Hoffa bit is particularly funny because Hendrie talks about Art retiring and returning again and gain. Hmmm....I would link it but it is not on youtube and I am gladly forking over my money to Hendrie. He also talks about what Art is doing while retired. It's just a classic bit.

I was close to giving Phil a yearly subscription yesterday since I've been listening to him (for free) so much this year. I'm a longtime fan of his and even though his newest format is much different than before, he's still the funniest dude on airwaves. I'll probably do the Backstage Pass subscription. Even if he retires there's a huge archive of the old stuff - many that I've never heard. 

[ponyboysunset]

I was close to giving Phil a yearly subscription yesterday since I've been listening to him (for free) so much this year. I'm a longtime fan of his and even though his newest format is much different than before, he's still the funniest dude on airwaves. I'll probably do the Backstage Pass subscription. Even if he retires there's a huge archive of the old stuff - many that I've never heard.

I got a Christmas bonus and guess who got a chunk. OMFG just amazingly funny stuff. He has that old school broadcaster thing I love. He has sarcasm like Rollye James. I'm hooked.

[transistorundermypillow]

I got a Christmas bonus and guess who got a chunk. OMFG just amazingly funny stuff. He has that old school broadcaster thing I love. He has sarcasm like Rollye James. I'm hooked.

Are you listening to his newest stuff too? Different, but still some hilarious bits. I'll be signing up soon too.

BTW I used to listen to Rollye a lot when she was on WPHT in Philly. She's a class act. I didn't know what she was doing now until I saw your posts on Bellgab a while back.

[Night Train]

Have you reached a conclusion? Not having a go at you particularly, I'd just like to hear an actual alternate version of events rather than everyone trying to advance-book their "I told you so" time with vague not-even-half suggestions.

Here's one alternate version:

In the beginning, Art meant well, and he really believed he would do MITD five nights a week for the next several years.  But as the launch of the show drew nearer, it started coming back to him just how much of a drain doing a three hour show five nights a week would be.  Just as with SiriusXM, when the first couple of weeks were exciting, but then boredom or complaints from the wife set in, or both, and he just up and said the hell with it and made up an excuse to quit the show. He knew he couldn't do it for long, and he knew his wife wouldn't put up with it for long.  But a few nights a week should be workable.  So he decided he'd get a co-host and then later he could transition her her in as his replacement most nights.  But he kept quiet about the second part, and just proposed Redacted as a co-host and nothing more.  However, MITD isn't the kind of show that does well with two hosts.  And fans gave a hearty thumbs down to the pre-launch featuring Redacted as co-host, so that idea was out.

So, for the first few weeks, everything's great.  Seems like old times, and fans are digging it.  But then the drudgery starts setting in.  Plus, for whatever reasons, the show isn't getting top tier guests.  Maybe word has gone out the C2C will ban anyone who shows up on MITD except for superstars like Graham Hancock, or maybe it's never been actually said but the top tier guests suspect this, or maybe the guest wrangler isn't up to the job, or possibly most guests don't want to spend nearly three hours talking on a show with a minuscule audience and that, given the host's track record, probably won't even still be on the air in six months.

Plus, the wife is complaining.  With show prep, and winding down, she's sitting there by herself four to five hours a night.  Then, because of the schedule, Art sleeps a lot during day, so he's not spending all that much time with her or their daughter.  She starts making noises about how much longer do you plan to do this.  So Art starts dropping hints about how old he is, his back hurts, etc.  Getting the fans ready for the inevitable.  He knows he needs to start transitioning Heather Wade in as an eventual replacement, but never quite gets around to it

Meanwhile, Keith is working hard to promote the show.  Before long, MITD is on a few dozen stations.  Which is pretty exciting.  So Art's of two minds.  The guests suck, the topics have been beat to death, he's bored, and his wife is bitching.  On the other hand, the show is becoming a real thing.  Art can see it becoming a real challenge to C2C and Noory, and he really hates those guys.  Part of him, a big part, wants to quit, but another big part wants to take the fight to GN, and he wants to be in that chair when that happens, not Heather.

So he muddles along, without much of a plan.  But his wife won't stop complaining, so he starts laying the groundwork for his eventual exit.  He can't come out and say what's really going on, because it's not very dramatic to admit you're pussy-whipped, and Art needs drama.  And he doesn't want to use health problems, because there's no drama in that, and he's pulled that one before. So we start hearing stories about a shooter.    Then we hear more stories.  They're not well thought out, and if Noory was telling these stories people on here would be ridiculing him for how obviously fake they are.  But it's Art, and so people believe the stories, no matter how ridiculous. 

Then Art announces to his wife that KABC and KLIF have signed up.  His wife may not be Ramona, but she's probably not stupid.  Art going back on the air in LA and Dallas is not good.  He's all excited again about taking down GN, and she's starting to think that either he may not quit this time, or it's going to be a long time before he does.  And every time another big affiliate comes on board he's more likely to delay quitting. 

So she puts her foot down.  Now or never.  You decide, Art - the show, or me and your daughter.  Decide right now.  And, so, just a few days after signing up two huge stations in two of America's biggest cities, Art has no alternative but to quit if he doesn't want to lose his wife and daughter.

The main flaw in this theory is why didn't Art start transitioning Heather in a long time ago?  But it's not a huge flaw.  There are lots of possible explanations for that.

There's another possible explanation for all this nonsense, which I don't even want to contemplate, and that is that Art did all this deliberately from the start, with both MITD and Sirius, because he has nothing but contempt for his fans, and thinks they're the dumbest, most gullible SOBs on the planet, and he just loves going to outrageous lengths to make complete fools of them.   As cynical as I am, not even I can buy this second theory. 

The other main theory - that Art is paranoid and half crazy, but really believes he's being stalked - doesn't hold water.  It doesn't explain the other ten times he's retired, nor does it explain why he doesn't want the cops investigating the alleged death threat phone call.

[AZZERAE]

he owes nothing to anyone

Oh c'mon now, no one owes nothing to anyone.

[FightTheFuture]

So, is Art still retired?

[ponyboysunset]

So, is Art still retiredon hiatus?

FIFY. And yes. 

[Philosopher]

Here's one alternate version:

Well done.  I think Art has been "of two minds" since he left Japan. 

[Ciardelo]

So, is Art still retired?

I think so, but near as I can tell, he owes some people.