Art Bell

[jazmunda]

That is really cool.  Think of how many people who would otherwise never hear Bell due to their schedule will get their first taste.  This makes me smile...

It's certainly a sign of the end times when the greater Los Angeles area gets their first taste of Jaz

[chefist]

The NDT show is on now...

[Mastodonkey]

Hope Art and his family had a calm, quiet, thanksgiving. I'm sure he needed a decent day off to rejuvenate from all the recent bs.

[zeebo]

Hope Art and his family had a calm, quiet, thanksgiving. I'm sure he needed a decent day off to rejuvenate from all the recent bs.

+1 ...  Hopefully he had a holiday from any and all knuckleheads. 

[ItsOver]

Are you fuckers really fighting over noory?

Isn't it sweet?

[Uncle Duke]

I've been playing catch up on the latest bit of excitement at Art's place, although admittedly I didn't listen last night or read every post in this thread.  What I don't understand, why is Art publicizing this on his show, here and on his Facebook page?  Seems to me the smart thing to do is not say anything publically since it's a good bet who ever this is probably listens to/reads what Art is saying to the world.  Not only does doing so give the guy(s) involved the satisfaction of knowing they are getting to Art, it could also prod copycat types. 

If this has been explained already, sorry for missing it.

[Robert]

I agree, I have a feeling daves ratings are tanking bad, many stations are reviewing their programming for 2016 at this time of the year, stations and content providers will try to keep their ratings secret, it tough to find proper ratings for anybody on the internet, but there are ways around it, I have one, but its not scientific or proper in any ways, its just gives you an idea what people think, google "dave full name sucks", make sure you have it in quotes, then google "art bell sucks", you will find around 14700 hits for dave and around 830 hits for art, 14700 to 830 is a huge difference, and don't forget, arts been on for a long time, try different things and see what your results are.

But let's say this is true.  Still...is he a gangster?  You do hear once in a while in the USA of a respectable businessperson who turns out to be a gangster -- Abe Hirschfeld comes to mind -- but they're the rare exception.

I'm betting the perpetrator is a crazy person with ideas of reference -- somebody who hears Art Bell saying space aliens may be kidnapping humans, and thinks "space aliens" is code language for hir.  How dare Art Bell impugn me as a kidnapper, huh?

[michio]

I've been playing catch up on the latest bit of excitement at Art's place, although admittedly I didn't listen last night or read every post in this thread.  What I don't understand, why is Art publicizing this on his show, here and on his Facebook page?  Seems to me the smart thing to do is not say anything publically since it's a good bet who ever this is probably listens to/reads what Art is saying to the world.  Not only does doing so give the guy(s) involved the satisfaction of knowing they are getting to Art, it could also prod copycat types. 

If this has been explained already, sorry for missing it.

Sure, the perpetrator(s) must be getting some kind of mentally sick satisfaction from hearing of the dirty deed, similar to an arsonist who returns to the scene of the crime to witness his handiwork. When I heard Art say he had almost pulled the trigger when seeing the intruder near his building, I thought of the picture he had posted of a certain handgun in his possession.  I don't think positing that picture that was the best of choices, either. I don't blame him for being defensive and emotionally charged when it comes to protecting his family and property, mind you, but high emotions and weapons can be a lethal and regrettable mix.  I also think, as do you, using discretion and keeping certain facts close to the vest about these disturbing incidents would be more helpful to law enforcement than broadcasting the details to the world. But I guess that's Art's unique way of explaining his "drama" and sharing what's going on behind the scenes with his followers and listeners.

[nooryisawesome]

I've been playing catch up on the latest bit of excitement at Art's place, although admittedly I didn't listen last night or read every post in this thread.  What I don't understand, why is Art publicizing this on his show, here and on his Facebook page?  Seems to me the smart thing to do is not say anything publicly since it's a good bet who ever this is probably listens to/reads what Art is saying to the world.  Not only does doing so give the guy(s) involved the satisfaction of knowing they are getting to Art, it could also prod copycat types. 

If this has been explained already, sorry for missing it.

I doubt there will be a copycat. But the rest of your argument seems pretty valid.

The only reason I can think of is to make the intruder consider he is gambling with his life.

[Yorkshire pud]

Sure, the perpetrator(s) must be getting some kind of mentally sick satisfaction from hearing of the dirty deed, similar to an arsonist who returns to the scene of the crime to witness his handiwork. When I heard Art say he had almost pulled the trigger when seeing the intruder near his building, I thought of the picture he had posted of a certain handgun in his possession.  I don't think positing that picture that was the best of choices, either. I don't blame him for being defensive and emotionally charged when it comes to protecting his family and property, mind you, but high emotions and weapons can be a lethal and regrettable mix.  I also think, as do you, using discretion and keeping certain facts close to the vest about these disturbing incidents would be more helpful to law enforcement than broadcasting the details to the world. But I guess that's Art's unique way of explaining his "drama" and sharing what's going on behind the scenes with his followers and listeners.

You mean making things up to pre empt the big switch off from broadcasting? Hmmm, dramatic I agree, but has much more kudos than a simple; 'Goodnight everyone'.

[twiki]

You mean making things up to pre empt the big switch off from broadcasting? Hmmm, dramatic I agree, but has much more kudos than a simple; 'Goodnight everyone'.

Are you implying that Art has made this all up as some type of elaborate exit strategy? Why would you say that?

[Yorkshire pud]

Are you implying that Art has made this all up as some type of elaborate exit strategy? Why would you say that?

I cannot imagine... :

But I'm not the only one who thinks that...

[michio]

You mean making things up to pre empt the big switch off from broadcasting? Hmmm, dramatic I agree, but has much more kudos than a simple; 'Goodnight everyone'.

When I said "drama" I was referring to how people make a big deal about what's been going on in his life. Well, when you're a legend in broadcasting and known to millions, don't you think a little personal drama might find you and ensue from time to time? I do.

I don't know exactly what you're implying here and I don't want to put words into your mouth, but if it's to say Art is fabricating this story about shooters and intruders, I think you'd have to include his family, his neighbors, and any law enforcement officers who are actively investigating these events and would need to be in on this "hoax."  Don't be afraid to label them liars, too. Was it reported in his local newspapers? Label them as liars, as well.

I believe that Art can be honest to a fault sometimes, as that's his personality and intrinsic to his values as a human being, be it beneficial or harmful to him depending on the circumstance. If you want to find someone who has no problem deceiving people to make a quick buck and embellishing stories to make himself seem as more than what he actually is, there's that other host on that other show where truth about oneself is an option.

[Yorkshire pud]

When I said "drama" I was referring to how people make a big deal about what's been going on in his life. Well, when you're a legend in broadcasting and known to millions, don't you think a little personal drama might find you and ensue from time to time? I do.

I don't know exactly what you're implying here and I don't want to put words into your mouth, but if it's to say Art is fabricating this story about shooters and intruders, I think you'd have to include his family, his neighbors, and any law enforcement officers who are actively investigating these events and would need to be in on this "hoax." 

This isn't an attack on you; but what evidence do you have? Specifically and from whom?

Don't be afraid to label them liars, too. Was it reported in his local newspapers? Label them as liars, as well.

I believe that Art can be honest to a fault sometimes, as that's his personality and intrinsic to his values as a human being, be it beneficial or harmful to him depending on the circumstance. If you want to find someone who has no problem deceiving people to make a quick buck and embellishing stories to make himself seem as more than what he actually is, there's that other host on that other show where truth about oneself is an option.

I don't think it's to make a quick buck at all. AB like ALL broadcasters has an ego, some get bruised more than others.

I'm no fan of Noory at all, but he has vile things said about him when he mispronounces words, yet AB is a deity, really? 

[michio]

This isn't an attack on you; but what evidence do you have? Specifically and from whom?


I don't think it's to make a quick buck at all. AB like ALL broadcasters has an ego, some get bruised more than others.

I'm no fan of Noory at all, but he has vile things said about him when he mispronounces words, yet AB is a deity, really?

About the same amount of evidence as you do right now, none privy to me besides what Art's told us in social media and on-air.  The main difference is you're relying on wild imagination to support your theory about Art creating a fantastic tale to foretell of his impending departure from radio.  People believe a lot of weird sh!t for no good reason, that's how it goes. You're making a bigger and longer stretch than I am. Oh yeah, and Art has such a huge ego that he winces every time someone calls him a legend and tries to change the subject.   :

sNoory's been caught in lie after lie, it's a fact supported by pages and pages of people documenting those lies.  It's about more than butchering the English language and being mean. There is no comparison of one and the other, IMO. I did not call Art a deity, you did. I'm giving Art the benefit of a doubt while you are not.

[Yorkshire pud]

About the same amount of evidence as you do right now, none privy to me besides what Art's told us in social media and on-air.  The main difference is you're relying on wild imagination to support your theory about Art creating a fantastic tale to foretell of his impending departure from radio. 

Read what you've typed again objectively and consider this; a)you can't prove a negative b) AB's show is based partly on wild imagination...

People believe a lot of weird sh!t for no good reason, that's how it goes. You're making a bigger and longer stretch than I am. Oh yeah, and Art has such a huge ego that he winces every time someone calls him a legend and tries to change the subject.   :

sNoory's been caught in lie after lie, it's a fact supported by pages and pages of people documenting those lies.  It's about more than butchering the English language and being mean. There is no comparison of one and the other, IMO. I did not call Art a deity, you did. I'm giving Art the benefit of a doubt while you are not.

Noory lies? Everyone lies; it isn't unique! Noory just had the misfortune to be taking on a show he couldn't possibly do the way AB fans wanted; he was on a hiding to nothing. But clearly enough listen to keep the sponsors happy. If no-one listened he'd be taken off air.
I also said it wasn't an attack on you. You give him the benefit of the doubt because he's not packed a show in previously and let his listeners down?

[michio]

Read what you've typed again objectively and consider this; a)you can't prove a negative b) AB's show is based partly on wild imagination...

I also said it wasn't an attack on you. You give him the benefit of the doubt because he's not packed a show in previously and let his listeners down?

Now you're attempting to take the show's guest's and subject matter (of which the host may or may not agree with) and inject that into what he's said about his personal life that obviously and unfortunately affects how he feels and if he's able to show up to do those shows.  If his kid is sick and Art needs to take her to the hospital hours or minutes before a scheduled live show and has to cancel, am I supposed to instantly jump off the loony ledge with you and believe he made up the story as a build-up to something I've imagined as fact in my mind?  And you're calling me out for jumping off the deep edge? Seriously, you can't be that far gone and in defense of those who don't deserve a defense based on their past actions. But if you are, count me out.

[whoozit]

Wacky theories, paranoia and fights over speculation.  There's the BellGab I know and love.   

[ponyboysunset]

I've been playing catch up on the latest bit of excitement at Art's place, although admittedly I didn't listen last night or read every post in this thread.  What I don't understand, why is Art publicizing this on his show, here and on his Facebook page?  Seems to me the smart thing to do is not say anything publically since it's a good bet who ever this is probably listens to/reads what Art is saying to the world.  Not only does doing so give the guy(s) involved the satisfaction of knowing they are getting to Art, it could also prod copycat types. 

If this has been explained already, sorry for missing it.

Completely agree. Why on earth would someone make any of this public? I cannot imagine that the police approve of this and if anything it only gives this person the attention they are looking for. And none of us would be speculating if it weren't public.

[pate]

Dear Art,

I've no idea what the latest flap is about (I tried to spell conta-ver-??? an faild).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9buo9Mtos

Artan the Artairian....

Sir, greatness is yours,

ediot:  if you pass good wishes onto Red Sonja, well...

[zeebo]

I just figured he wanted to share a bit about what's understandably been a distraction affecting him and the show.  I suspect he didn't give us all the details. 

[BellBoy]

Here's a summary:

Art said that on Nov. 18th someone called his house and told him they would kill him and his family if he went on air...

getting a little slow, time for more drama #prediction

Not to To totally, stir the pot (sorry YP, I can't help myself), but I find the timing of this #bitter #jealous #fucktard's "drama prediction" post to be a bit curious... especially considering that Art, completely pissed him off, by not doing his shitty podcast.



And strangely enough, that was his last post on this forum...

#justsayin'

[pate]

+1 ...  Hopefully he had a holiday from any and all knuckleheads.

Hmmm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l91ISfcuzDw

on second thought...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY

Nefermynd.



In Art We Trust

[Yorkshire pud]

Now you're attempting to take the show's guest's and subject matter (of which the host may or may not agree with) and inject that into what he's said about his personal life that obviously and unfortunately affects how he feels and if he's able to show up to do those shows.  If his kid is sick and Art needs to take her to the hospital hours or minutes before a scheduled live show and has to cancel, am I supposed to instantly jump off the loony ledge with you and believe he made up the story as a build-up to something I've imagined as fact in my mind?  And you're calling me out for jumping off the deep edge? Seriously, you can't be that far gone and in defense of those who don't deserve a defense based on their past actions. But if you are, count me out.

I'm defending no-one. And his sick kid wasn't what I was referring to..seven weeks come to mind.

However to simply accept a potentially very major crime as nothing to make the news is laughable if it's a radio host. Especially one, who as you say has millions of listeners. But, I'm old and ugly enough to admit I'm wrong...wait and see eh?

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xs4ddoxPtc

-clears throat, erm-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5KTVA_2ys

forgive the repeat.

[Robert]

Are you implying that Art has made this all up as some type of elaborate exit strategy?

And with the complicity of the police & neighbors?

[ge30542]

Can anyone direct me to a link to Somewhere in Time 7/4/97?
Heard a bit of it the other night, (Tune In "auto starts" when I launch the app, after several minutes the app crashed, and I lost the show), Art & RCH discussing the landing of Mars Pathfinder, and RCH REFUSED to yield to Art, Art got pissed and told RCH, " okay Richard, I'M gonna speak now!"
It was great, gotta find that show again.  July 4 1997.

[Robert]

Completely agree. Why on earth would someone make any of this public?

Because it's better than canceling shows w/o giving a reason, or making something up.

[PB the Deplorable]

Are you implying that Art has made this all up as some type of elaborate exit strategy? Why would you say that?

Whatever this is, it certainly is elaborate.

I just don't see the motive for someone to be doing all this - cutting wires, firing shots, making threatening phone calls, lurking about outside during the show.  It's such an odd series of events.  Didn't Art say he'd quit if he felt threatened, right before all this started happening?  What is the likelihood someone could have done all this without being caught yet?  Why would the family be sleeping on the floor instead of out of town in a hotel somewhere?

Just speculating, but let's say he's concerned he may not want to do the show much longer.  Instead of issues with one company - Sirius - allowing him to bail and cast blame there, this would be the second time in a short period of time.  This time he also has a bunch of affiliates he's recently signed up that would have to be dropped.

[CornyCrow]

The Travis Walton show was a good one!  He was a lot more open than he's been in past shows.

Hope everyone had a lovely Thanksgiving and good luck to you brave souls planning on participating in tomorrow's shopping antics.

Thank you, Michael.  Hope your holiday was fine, too.  No shopping here.