Art Bell

[paladin1991]

Thank God you're here.  Orders Sir?

Make me a Grilled 4 cheese sandwich with tomatoes and fried span.  On Sourdough.  And COFFEE.  We're gonna need plenty of coffee. 
https://youtu.be/LPGN-h3JiDg

[starrmtn001]

Make me a Grilled 4 cheese sandwich with tomatoes and fried span.  On Sourdough.  And COFFEE.  We're gonna need plenty of coffee. 
https://youtu.be/LPGN-h3JiDg

Sir, yes SIR!

Anything else snookums?   Oops, sorry Paladin.  Got caught up in the moment and forgot my virtual flirting rule.

[Sehnzeleid]

Art, here is my advice:  hire an armed guard for a couple of weeks, and mention him OFTEN on the air and that he has a night scope on his uzi.  (Okay,... maybe not an uzi, but you see my point, I hope).

Being in Nevada, Art might as well call on the best.

[chefist]

I would like to ask for a little creative license here...

Other than IHateRadio, the largest talk format station in Phoenix is 1480 KPHX, and in Los Angeles, KNX 1070. Both of these stations are CBS owned.

Could Art be working out a deal with CBS radio?  I pick up 1480 here in Tucson very well! Can't wait to find out!

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I would like to ask for a little creative license here...

Other than IHateRadio, the largest talk format station in Phoenix is 1480 KPHX, and in Los Angeles, KNX 1070. Both of these stations are CBS owned.

KNX has always been short news segments. They've never had any shows on weekdays as far back as I can remember.

[chefist]

KNX has always been short news segments. They've never had any shows on weekdays as far back as I can remember.

Do they have sports talk too? They do in Phoenix...

Here it is a liberal talk format...Hartman n Colmes...

It would be "big" news though...

[Mind Flayer Monk]

Do they have sports talk too? They do in Phoenix...

Here it is a liberal talk format...Hartman n Colmes...

It would be "big" news though...

That might be 1150-they had LA Kings games for a few years and some liberal talk which changed to an investment advisor a few years back.

Sorry chefist, I'm wrong here. IHateMedia owns 1150 am.

[chefist]

That might be 1150-they had LA Kings games for a few years and some liberal talk which changed to an investment advisor a few years back.

What if liberal radio wanted to have a host that used to be primarily on conservative talk to go head to head with the competition? hmmmmm....

[CornyCrow]

What if liberal radio wanted to have a host that used to be primarily on conservative talk to go head to head with the competition? hmmmmm....

I hope the FBI gets involved.  Art takes a stand on some issues.  Maybe someone doesn't like that.  It infringes on our freedom of the press if the hacker/shooter has a motive other than personal.  How would a person find a good detective?  I'd imagine that, to entice him to come to Pahrump he'd have to be paid a premium.  If Art has not already done so, I'd teach his wife how to shoot.  If I were in his shoes I'd get fingerprint guns that allowed myself and my wife to shoot them.  This way they could have the guns available around the house without worries about Asia touching them, although she seems like a child who will listen to her parents and not touch them. 

[chefist]

I hope the FBI gets involved.  Art takes a stand on some issues.  Maybe someone doesn't like that.  It infringes on our freedom of the press if the hacker/shooter has a motive other than personal.  How would a person find a good detective?  I'd imagine that, to entice him to come to Pahrump he'd have to be paid a premium.  If Art has not already done so, I'd teach his wife how to shoot.  If I were in his shoes I'd get fingerprint guns that allowed myself and my wife to shoot them.  This way they could have the guns available around the house without worries about Asia touching them, although she seems like a child who will listen to her parents and not touch them.

My point was purely from the business aspect...what if liberal stations took on Art to compete with conservative IHateRadio and Dave Snoory? As a Libertarian, I would not care at all! I think it would be great! There are large portions of Art's audience that are liberal...the new agers, Dennis McKenna, etc for example...

[CornyCrow]

My point was purely from the business aspect...what if liberal stations took on Art to compete with conservative IHateRadio and Dave Snoory? As a Libertarian, I would not care at all! I think it would be great! There are large portions of Art's audience that are liberal...the new agers, Dennis McKenna, etc for example...

Are there radio stations that you could classify as liberal?  I live near NYC.  Most of our stations carry Rush, Sean, Levine, and Savage.  Geraldo, if you consider him liberal, but I'd classify him as centrist.  Savage can be interesting when he's not getting too angry.  They actually have made it a policy of getting rid of hosts that are "fair".  I bought an internet radio and KKSF seems to be a decent station, but it's in San Fran.  I like Art because he'll voice concern for the environment and big business interference and on the other hand will say good things about Trump and take a serious position against gun control. 

Strict Libertarians want the government OUT of all our endeavors, siting their only valid position being defense of the country.  I cannot see how that would stop companies from polluting and think of the public services on which I rely, the post office and fire dept and police and trash pickup and schools.  How about Social Security and unemployment? 

I wish the Fairness Doctrine were still in effect.  At least, then, there was a signal to people that there were other points of view AND there were more honest discussions of issues. 

I suppose Libertarians see nothing wrong in Citzens United. 

Frankly, there is no party platform with which I am in total comfort.  Art is right - the US used to do great things, and now we are mediocre. 

[chefist]

Are there radio stations that you could classify as liberal?  I live near NYC.  Most of our stations carry Rush, Sean, Levine, and Savage.  Geraldo, if you consider him liberal, but I'd classify him as centrist.  Savage can be interesting when he's not getting too angry.  They actually have made it a policy of getting rid of hosts that are "fair".  I bought an internet radio and KKSF seems to be a decent station, but it's in San Fran.  I like Art because he'll voice concern for the environment and big business interference and on the other hand will say good things about Trump and take a serious position against gun control. 

Strict Libertarians want the government OUT of all our endeavors, siting their only valid position being defense of the country.  I cannot see how that would stop companies from polluting and think of the public services on which I rely, the post office and fire dept and police and trash pickup and schools.  How about Social Security and unemployment? 

I wish the Fairness Doctrine were still in effect.  At least, then, there was a signal to people that there were other points of view AND there were more honest discussions of issues. 

I suppose Libertarians see nothing wrong in Citzens United. 

Frankly, there is no party platform with which I am in total comfort.  Art is right - the US used to do great things, and now we are mediocre.

KPHX is liberal radio...and is a CBS radio station...

Citizens United is the same as unions supporting Democrat political campaigns...IMO....

[PB the Deplorable]

Are there radio stations that you could classify as liberal?...

NPR

[Daggit]

NPR

He said liberal not bleeding heart liberal. Or is that one and the same?

[CornyCrow]

KPHX is liberal radio...and is a CBS radio station...

Citizens United is the same as unions supporting Democrat political campaigns...IMO....

That's a good point, but I would have public funding of elections and no private or other organizational money involved, in an ideal world.  It's true that unions are notoriously corrupt and do not always reflect the will of their membership. 

When I was looking for a radio station, I took those which carried Coast to Coast (sorry) and checked out the schedule of many of the larger ones, and most seem to be very conservative.  You have one little outpost in Arizona, and I don't think of that as a liberal state, which strikes me as odd because NYC is liberal and the two main radio stations are right wing. 

[Mind Flayer Monk]

NPR

I think the pledge drive during an Art Bell show would be hilarious.

What's up with NPR wanting so much money anyway? They want more money than Sirius radio charges me.

KPHX is liberal radio...and is a CBS radio station...

Great idea-the AM station both mom and dad can agree on!

[Eddie Coyle]

What's up with NPR wanting so much money anyway? They want more money than Sirius radio charges me.

   The local neo-hippie/folkie station pleading that they're in steep danger of going off the air if we can't help them TODAY. This is about the 24th October in a row I've heard that spiel from them.

[GravitySucks]

Strict Libertarians want the government OUT of all our endeavors, siting their only valid position being defense of the country.
no, they wanted limited federal government that follows the constitution

I cannot see how that would stop companies from polluting
enforce the laws that are on the books

and

You seem to have some misconceptions about what Uncle Sam actually does

think of the public services on which I rely, the post office no longer part of the federal government

and fire dept and police and trash pickup and schools.  none of these are the federal government, they are local services

How about Social Security benefit that workers have paid into - restore the trust fund that the federal government raided last century

and unemployment? local (state) "benefit" which is funded by employers paying unemployment insurance 

I suppose Libertarians see nothing wrong in Citzens United.  as long as entities like Media Matters exist, Citizens United is a necessity, but if you limit federal government, neither of these would have the impact they do now

Frankly, there is no party platform with which I am in total comfort.  Art is right - the US used to do great things, and now we are mediocre. totally agree - see, we have common ground

[Robert]

I wish the Fairness Doctrine were still in effect.  At least, then, there was a signal to people that there were other points of view AND there were more honest discussions of issues.

Actually it was more like no discussions of issues.

[CornyCrow]

Strict Libertarians want the government OUT of all our endeavors, siting their only valid position being defense of the country.
no, they wanted limited federal government that follows the constitution
Actually, Ayn wanted NO government services, except military, which the constitution allows for.  I've known some Libertarians and attended lectures.  Those who are strict Randists want ALL government out of their lives.  ALL means if you don't pay your fire dept bill, your house is allowed to burn down.   

I cannot see how that would stop companies from polluting
enforce the laws that are on the books
And how would that stop the tearing down of rainforests and the nuclear waste disposal problem and would it stop the coal and oil industries?  If we did not have so many businesses interfering with government, maybe more could be done in this area.  Look at our price for many drugs compared to that of other countries - all due to government supporting industry, look at all the countries that label GMO foods, but ours does not - all due to corporate influence against the population. 

You seem to have some misconceptions about what Uncle Sam actually does

think of the public services on which I rely, the post office no longer part of the federal government
and fire dept and police and trash pickup and schools.  none of these are the federal government, they are local services
Yes, and the Libertarians with whom I am familiar want to eliminate ALL government, including local, and only allow that government that is Constitutionally allowed, meaning military.  If you cannot afford to pay for your kids' education, don't have them.  If you do and they have no place in society, that's your problem. 
The Libertarians whom I have met would have each of us draw up a private contract with all the functions that we need to survive as a civilized people.  There would be no local government function but for police. 

how about Social Security benefit that workers have paid into - restore the trust fund that the federal government raided last century
The point is, there would be no SocSec with a true Libertarian government.  The Paul family is off the mark, in that abortion would be readily available to a Randist.  They wish to maximize individual liberty and curtail government.  They also are atheists.

and unemployment? local (state) "benefit" which is funded by employers paying unemployment insurance
That's not the point.  There would be no mandate that companies contribute to the unemployment fund.  Corporations are free, in her utopia, to do exactly what they wish, including child labor.  The only way to stop what you don't like is to afford a good lawyer and take them to court and even then there would be no law created to regulate business, which is sacred, but to adjudicate on a case by case basis.  The richer you are, the more rights you have. 

I suppose Libertarians see nothing wrong in Citizens United.  as long as entities like Media Matters exist, Citizens United is a necessity, but if you limit federal government, neither of these would have the impact they do now
Rand's two main principles were to maximize the freedom of the individual and to unshackle businesses.  If you think that business and the wealthy are running things now, it would be much, much, worse in a Libertarian world. 

Frankly, there is no party platform with which I am in total comfort.  Art is right - the US used to do great things, and now we are mediocre. totally agree - see, we have common ground

I seem to run the opposite of what is commonly believed to happen, I used to believe in certain of these Libertarian principles when I was young and poor and clawing my way into a good job.  When my fortunes changed and now that I am older I often see the system in another perspective. 
I think our economic system requires ever expanding markets and our social system requires an ever expanding base of workers to pay for benefits.  This is unsustainable.  Part of our wrecking the environment is due to commercialization but another part is our sheer numbers.  We have to devise another system that does not depend on a growing population.  It will be a very different world.   

[AppealPlay]

The politics zoo has been leaking. :

[AppealPlay]

Keith, buddy, please update Art's affiliate list.  I think there are some errors/missing stations.

[serenity]

The politics zoo has been leaking. :

Boy do I agree with that! anyway.....

Time for the Saturday post.

Tonight starting at 8PM Central until Midnight Central ( Thats 6 to 10pm Pacific for you guys in Rio Linda ) on http://ksyl.com is: Art Bell: Somewhere in Time. When Art journeys back to August 6, 2001, when ghost investigators Brendan Cook & Barbara McBeath joined Art Bell for a scary show of audio (EVPs) that they recorded from the Other Side.
http://ksyl.com has a live stream listed on their page and they can also be found on Tune-in.
If you are local to NW Louisiana or if the propagation is right, you can hear them on 970AM,
I do not know if the show is in the archive. Jazmunda might have the info on that. However from past info, these may be the "new" classics and may not be in the archive.

For those of you with a bent for nostalgia, from 6pm to 8pm Central, ksyl plays When Radio Was, with old radio shows from the time when "Radio was King!"

Also go to Youtube and "like" all the videos! Help us trend! http://youtube.com/artbell51

Remember "Theres Magic in the Static"

[CornyCrow]

Actually it was more like no discussions of issues.

I'm sure we know folks who only watch FOX or MSNBC.  Most people come home from working all day and do not want the chore of hearing the presentation of the same issues from the differing points of view.  We get polarized in that way.  News sources USED to take pride in being impartial.  Being pushed to present the various viewpoints was better than now, when there is no attempt whatsoever and the news seems so controlled and biased. 

[Meister_000]

The politics zoo has been leaking. :

Jackstar used to pull tricks like that -- changing the thread title-- but he was booted a couple months ago. I was in the midst of trying to figure out how to fix it when your post came in correctly labeled, so I guess its fixed now, somehow.

[AppealPlay]

So it seems that KABC will air Art on a one hour delay which is also what KXL does.  Maybe Art should have chosen the 1-4 (or 1-5) Eastern time slot.

Huge news that KABC picked him up.  That's going to be amazing for the show and I imagine now that an affiliate tsunami is coming.

Love it!

[Zetaspeak]

.  I like Art because he'll voice concern for the environment and big business interference and on the other hand will say good things about Trump and take a serious position against gun control. 

That's a big reason I respect Art opinion on things. Even on things I disagree with him I give him a huge benefit of the doubt. Unlike everyone on radio Art doesn't fall in the "everybody with this political leaning has it right, everybody with this political is the enemy and is wrong". He's an actually independent thinker. Which is as rare as a bigfoot sighting in the land of talk radio.

[chefist]

Well I wasn't thinking big enough! KABC starts carrying MITD Monday! Art needs a big one in the Northeast megalopolis now!

What I love the most is the fact it is in Dave's backyard!

Another possibility for Phoenix may be KTAR...they have holes in their lineup around the time Art is on during the week...can't wait to find out!

[albrecht]

I'm sure we know folks who only watch FOX or MSNBC.  Most people come home from working all day and do not want the chore of hearing the presentation of the same issues from the differing points of view.  We get polarized in that way.  News sources USED to take pride in being impartial.  Being pushed to present the various viewpoints was better than now, when there is no attempt whatsoever and the news seems so controlled and biased.

I would throw PBS, NBC, CBS, ABC, in there also (for the news.) Sometimes PBS has good stuff (Frontline etc is excellent) but the news is pretty much government talking points these days, especially that Gwen Ifill who, if she had an integrity, would've recused herself from reporting about Obama and his administration long ago.

Though I don't use Art for news per se, I like that he has his opinions, willing to change them over time as he finds new information etc, and is diverse in his opinions- not just some Party checklist but will stick with ones, even if the political climate changes.

[AppealPlay]

What I love the most is the fact it is in Dave's backyard.

Amen!  I wonder if Dave's going to try and up his game now.