Art Bell

[The General]

Maybe there should be an "air your grievances" thread.

[Marc.Knight]

Here here! TY (Redacted) and "Dittos" as they say. BTW, OMG Rush is down 1/100% point from july last year. Whatever will we do?

Wow.  Old Dave is right up there with Doug Stephan.

[Marc.Knight]

Maybe there should be an "air your grievances" thread.

This is it.

[MV/Liberace!]

Wow.  Old Dave is right up there with Doug Stephan.

how hannity is only one tick behind rush is beyond me.  he's the worst form of conservative talk radio.

[PathoJen]

Dave Ramsey gives great financial advice...he's a benefit, Dave on the other hand...

Yea, I was caught up in the moment. I'm ok now.

[Marc.Knight]

They both look like they are being told that 1 + 1 = 2.

[Marc.Knight]

how hannity is only one tick behind rush is beyond me.  he's the worst form of conservative talk radio.

The result of low information Republicans.

[PathoJen]

Maybe there should be an "air your grievances" thread.

No, because then the Art Bell thread will wither away. 

[chefist]

Maybe there should be an "air your grievances" thread.

you're probably right...I just have two simple questions that sum up Reps and Dems...Q to Rep, "What are you forcing me to buy?" Q to Dem, "What are you forcing me to think?"

[paladin1991]

Then you are aware that the suicide rate for gay teens is horribly high, and that using the term in a denigrating manner, just as saying the word Ni**er causes hurt.  You aren't gay, so you don't understand.  Do you have any idea how hard it was for my son to come out?  When I finally encouraged him to not be ashamed but instead be proud, because I was VERY proud of him, he bawled on the phone for hours after we talked and he came out.  He was terrified that his straight parents would accept him, in spite of us being liberal and VERY caring.  You had a roomate.  Ok, so?  I dated black women, had a GF even, but I'm not black.  I know how hard it is to SOME extent for being black, but I'm not in the skin, I can escape to my whiteness.

I used to think that Bellgab was a place with intelligent and evolved people.  From the response I am getting, there are a number of us, and likely many remaining silent for fear of retribution, over the denigrating manner this is still being handled.  You're a leader.  Leaders are counted on to keep an group safe/comfortable.  Some things are just way out of line and NOT funny.

We might have gay members here keeping silent for fear, and they should never be made to feel that way.  We are evolved or we aren't.

Unless you expressly WANT to chase away those of us that aren't in lockstep with a certain politics or ideal...

Well shit.  This sensitive shit again.  Everybody is fucking special.  He's a jew, he's a nigger, he's a queer....  All this diversity shit has us fragmented and empowers dumbasses to use words to fuck with us.  By being weak and allowing others to have power over us, with words,not even a fucking gun to our head..... we bring the pain on ourselves. 

All I can say is toughen the fuck up.  Words.  They have no power if you don't let them have power. 
I'm sorry the world isn't all lollipops and unicorn rides.  Really, I am.  I'd like a fucking unicorn, a cheeseburger and a Scotch.  I'd like nothing more than to take my little girl for a unicorn ride through the park.  But you know sure as shit there is gonna be some douchebag that didn't bring his unicorn, or doesn't have one and figures that he could take mine.
Not happening.  I wouldn't let him take my unicorn anymore than I would let him take my honor, my pride or my duty.  There will be a fight.

I don't care what color you are.  I don't care if your son sucks dick or eats the box lunch.  All I care about is will he, and you dad, stand with me when the shit hits the fan.  An earthquake levels SoCal, are you going to turn to and help or wait for help, for somebody to do something?  If TPTB or will be, send the cattle cars for the queers, the Christians, the left handed, will you stand with me?  If not, get the fuck out of my field of fire and hide until it's all over or TPTB come for you and your son.

If you can't do those things then you should pray that I and a small handful of others are enough to stand between you and 'them.'  Whoever 'them' might be.  The assholes on the street corner, the dipshits in the black and white, the bigot at the ball park.  We are few, but determined. 

Hug your son, I hug mine.  Hope for a better world.  Go ahead, hope.  I'll wait.  Done hoping?  Good.  Because this is the world we got.   And it ain't perfect by a long shot.  There are a lot of ppl out there who will fuck with you just because they can.  And you have a smaller percentage of ppl who will fuck with you because of who and what you are. I got nothing for either of those groups. 

People are like sheep.  All they want is to be left alone to graze and move through this life with the ppl they know or love.  Fine.  That makes most of you different fm me.  That's cool.  But don't think any of you are more special than anyone else.  Because I don't see it.

I know.  I don't understand.  I couldn't know.  I'm insensitive.  I'm an asshole, dammit.  Okay, if you say so.  But I refuse to let you or anyone else decide how I am going to feel today, about myself or anything else.  Your words have no power over me.     

As Americans we need to toughen the fuck up and hold tight to our self respect.  That first before we can expect it fm anybody else.  Even third graders know that sticks and stones break bones, but words will never...  oh wait.


https://youtu.be/7fVkwltV1_I   

https://youtu.be/g2M4ilVaAmI


I don't mean to come down heavy on you laser.  Hell I like you, I think.  And I don't know you beyond your posts. I'm sure your kid is a great kid and the apple of your eye.  Mine are.  And I want to thank you for speaking up.  Too many won't.

[lasertron]

Funny ^ "words mean nothing!" -male proverb

I have two on-topic points!

1. My company is advertising on MITD and our whole team is losing its mind--we've been playing old Art shows in the office for weeks now. Makes for some awesome lunch break discussions.
2. KOIL in Omaha has expressed interest in carrying the show, but it's just 5,000 watts. I'm having lunch with the 50,000-watt KFAB programming director this week and I'm going to try to tempt him to get Art Bell back on their overnight.

[PathoJen]

Based on what?

I don`t find that to be true at all based on my personal observance at fund raisers he attended.

meh....

[MV/Liberace!]

No, because then the Art Bell thread will wither away. 

heh heh

[Skunk Ape]

how hannity is only one tick behind rush is beyond me.  he's the worst form of conservative talk radio.

You don't like a high pitched voice yelling over the callers and repeating the same thing over and over?

You'll hate Levin. lol

[paladin1991]

I model for Guns N Ammo...i recently acquired a S&W SD40...smooth action...do they still allow you to own firearms in Cali?

Funny. 
The Peoples Republic of California still allows ownership.  Though you obviously are a throwback if you think you need one in this workers paradise. 

[Skunk Ape]

1. My company is advertising on MITD and our whole team is losing its mind--we've been playing old Art shows in the office for weeks now. Makes for some awesome lunch break discussions.

I literally have no one in my office to whom to express my excitement. None of my friends outside of work have the interest in podcasts/talk radio that I do either..

You are a very lucky person with a very cool office.

[chefist]

All I can say is toughen the fuck up.  Words.  They have no power if you don't let them have power. 
I'm sorry the world isn't all lollipops and unicorn rides.  Really, I am.  I'd like a fucking unicorn, a cheeseburger and a Scotch.  I'd like nothing more than to take my little girl for a unicorn ride through the park.  But you know sure as shit there is gonna be some douchebag that didn't bring his unicorn, or doesn't have one and figures that he could take mine.

I don't mean to come down heavy on you laser.  Hell I like you, I think.  And I don't know you beyond your posts. I'm sure your kid is a great kid and the apple of your eye.  Mine are.  And I want to thank you for speaking up.  Too many won't.

WURD Marine!

[lasertron]

I literally have no one in my office to whom to express my excitement. None of my friends outside of work have the interest in podcasts/talk radio that I do either..

You are a very lucky person with a very cool office.

current company obsession: MKUltra

[paladin1991]

By that reasoning, "Allahu Akbar" is similarly offensive. 
Yet I doubt that you would have a problem with someone saying it on a podcast.
Whether the intent was to offend or not.

Maybe we need a new thread for this if people aren't done waving their butthurt flags around.
This is the Art Bell thread, and we've been talking about this non-event for almost a week now.

The General is right.  And I hate saying that about an Officer who hasn't sought out my advice on how to handle this situation with the troops.

[MV/Liberace!]

You don't like a high pitched voice yelling over the callers and repeating the same thing over and over?

You'll hate Levin. lol

oh god.  levin.  i can't even begin to understand how a listener sits through that for three hours.  in my opinion, if you want conservative talk radio, you listen to rush and then hang it up.  no need to loiter beyond that.

[FightTheFuture]

https://youtu.be/7fVkwltV1_I   

https://youtu.be/g2M4ilVaAmI

Hey, it DOES bring back some memories, doesn`t it, brother? 

[ItsOver]

How did I end up on the Politics and I'm butt-hurt thread?

[serenity]

WURD Marine!

Ooooooorah Gunny!

[paladin1991]

All I am trying to express is that, while some here, because of their politics/how they were raised/cavalier attitude, think this is about hurt feelings alone, they don't get it.  It's denigration.  At one time in Germany and Russia it was cool for some to make fun of certain religions and it soon came out of control.  And think about the suicide rate of kids suffering the stigma.  It's not a minor thing, this is a big deal, maybe not for some of you with the luxury of not being affected, but for others it is.  I have 7 good friends who are LGBT and I hear how it is for them.  Most of them grew up with me and are still friends with me unlike most other classmates, because they knew I was evolved.

Let's say you had a disfigured face and people, en masse, started referring to the disfigurement as a form of a "playful" insult.  How do you think you would feel.  You'd probably shrink and leave the site.  As it is for me, I just didn't come back here for a few days because of how it hurt.  If the goal here is to make a hostile environment, you've managed to do it.

Everyone has been falling all over themselves to suck up to Red.  That's great, but until she learns how to control such epithets she's gonna have a challenge in broadcasting.  Rush Limbaugh uses denigration on a regular basis and he's started to see him empire fail under his feet.  Like I said, kids are committing suicide over the stigma others have put on this.  Each of us are either a solution or a cause of this problem.

Just remember, what goes around comes around.

I do have a disfigured face.    Acne and shrapnel.  I am not a pretty man.  Trust me, it's an improvement over what I used to look like.

[jerry]

how hannity is only one tick behind rush is beyond me.  he's the worst form of conservative talk radio.

Agreed 100%.  Savage and Boortz were the best 

[Skunk Ape]

oh god.  levin.  i can't even begin to understand how a listener sits through that for three hours.  in my opinion, if you want conservative talk radio, you listen to rush and then hang it up.  no need to loiter beyond that.

After Obama was elected, I couldn't listen to most of talk radio. Rush and Jerry Doyle were the only two who remained entertaining to me, more so with Jerry Doyle, because he always had a cool story about his Babylon 5 days to throw in there.

Now I catch Lars Larson on the way home, and it's just awful. "First Amendment Friday" Yuck. If they were to actually open the lines on these Friday shows that would be some great entertainment.

[FightTheFuture]

Agreed 100%.  Savage and Boortz were the best 

Correction: Savage IS the best.

[paladin1991]

No sucking up is needed.  It was just a joke.  I dig MV, but the guy cannot take a compliment, so I throw in an insult to balance out any compliments I may pay him.  As a female, and as a minority myself, I have dealt with my fair share of slurs and denigration in this life.  Have learned to let it go and have a laugh.  It's the GabCast, far worse has been said on that show, but this one word is being beat to death.

I won't say it again.

Great.  Laserjock has censored you.  Just great.

[aldousburbank]

Thank you! I appreciate that a lot!

Yeah, well I don't. But rather than stink up this thread, here's a link to a recent post by someone who agrees that this hate speech drama is a bunch of horseshit.
http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,2023.msg401179.html#msg401179
Yeah, I said it- HorseDooDoo   :

[MV/Liberace!]

Agreed 100%.  Savage and Boortz were the best 

i like savage.  boortz always sounded mentally a little slow to me, and he always seemed like he had a gallon of spit floating around in his mouth.