Art Bell

[K_Dubb]

I hope you're right. I've also learned people with dementia go to doctor's appointments like they are trying to pass a test of normalcy instead of trying to get the help they seriously need, meaning they hide it.

Oh yes that is certainly true, and they enlist you to coach them through it once they feel the walls closing in.  Though some of that is cultural or generational:  Dad cut several toes off with the lawnmower when I was a kid and was only with difficulty persuaded to go to the hospital, insisting on driving himself.

[K_Dubb]

Oh. The girlfriend is real?  I had assumed that she was K_Dubb...

Pfft I can tell an Algonquin from an Assiniboine.

[Jackstar]

Flash backs to me trying to help my kid with her Calculus homework.

Tell her to stop using emoticons. They are trash.

[Dr. MD MD]

Tell her to stop using emoticons. They are trash.

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[Walks_At_Night]

Oh yes that is certainly true, and they enlist you to coach them through it once they feel the walls closing in.  Though some of that is cultural or generational:  Dad cut several toes off with the lawnmower when I was a kid and was only with difficulty persuaded to go to the hospital, insisting on driving himself.

"I'll just rub some dirt on it and wrap it with a towel. It'll be fine.  They'll grow back".

What is up with that? When I was a kid there were like three Dad's on the block that had done that. 
Is it like a Callan and Seraphim thing where one has to blame the wine or what?

[Dr. MD MD]

"I'll just rub some dirt on it and wrap it with a towel. It'll be fine.  They'll grow back".

What is up with that? When I was a kid there were like three Dad's on the block that had done that. 
Is it like a Callan and Seraphim thing where one has to blame the wine or what?

Lead in the water?

[Roswells, Art]

Haha smiling and waving are not out of character, but wiggling his fingers to someone who is not there certainly is.

I do not remember listening to Art and thinking he sounded old and forgetful, though, which preceded the hallucinations in my dad's case by years and years.  Maybe a lapse in judging what made entertaining radio -- the light-bulb incident, the flat earth debate -- but never an awkward segue or reaching for a word or forgetting his place in a narrative.  It would have been hard to mask those symptoms in a single hours-long show, let alone the dozens he put out before he quit.

I reread your post. People with dementia can do their lifelong job for way longer then they should because they know that shit. If you're lucky that person still keeps the same persona that you're used to, often times they don't. I recommend getting your father checked out by a neurologist, not your family doctor and tell him or her that he wiggles his fingers to people that aren't there. It couldn't hurt if he's fine but it can make a huge difference in all your lives if you don't catch it right away.

[Walks_At_Night]

Lead in the water?

In Detroit?  No way. Water was *fine*.

[albrecht]

I wonder what you have when you see shadow rodents.  Nooronia?

Is it bad of me to hope that Dave Norway is currently at his LA location. Shadow rodents and shadow homeless people trying to break into the studio for some shade. Norry fleeing the studios and knocking on Dr.Bruce Goldberg's door in Woodland Hills (121F record the other day) and Dr.Goldberg, with a large glass of wine in his hand, replying to his houseboy, "Sorry I only know Dr. Dexter Monterrey, no Dave Norway, don't let him him, but send down some tap water for the guy and send him on his way."

[Dr. MD MD]

In Detroit?  No way. Water was *fine*.

Yeah, what was I thinking?! :

[Jackstar]

some obscure player [...] the real Rubini [...] (sorry Ros)! God bless him.

[K_Dubb]

"I'll just rub some dirt on it and wrap it with a towel. It'll be fine.  They'll grow back".

What is up with that? When I was a kid there were like three Dad's on the block that had done that. 
Is it like a Callan and Seraphim thing where one has to blame the wine or what?

Haha I have no idea Dad has never touched a drop in his life.

[albrecht]

Oh yes that is certainly true, and they enlist you to coach them through it once they feel the walls closing in.  Though some of that is cultural or generational:  Dad cut several toes off with the lawnmower when I was a kid and was only with difficulty persuaded to go to the hospital, insisting on driving himself.

Seeking help is a sign of weakness. Or some say/think. Also one has to recall than in decades past though healthcare was cheaper it was often out of pocket because insurance hadn't taken over everything or was available to everyone. Or you lived somewhere far away from doctors. And with regard to mental health that was a stigma and just a sign of weakness and shame.

[Dr. MD MD]

Seeking help is a sign of weakness. Or some say/think. Also one has to recall than in decades past though healthcare was cheaper it was often out of pocket because insurance hadn't taken over everything or was available to everyone. Or you lived somewhere far away from doctors. And with regard to mental health that was a stigma and just a sign of weakness and shame.

Proof that freedom is one of the most important things to people. No one wants to lose their independence.

[Jackstar]

"Shadow People"

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and state unequivocally that I am almost, but not quite, smart enough to figure out that I shouldn't tell anyone that I figured that part out too. Years back. Hiya, you all everybody! I'm here FOREVER. Try the veal! And while you're at it, rip your shirt open and let tomorrow's veal suckle at your teats, you milksop nursemaid hoes!!!

Just a suggestion. Them calves are hawngry, tho. DO YOUR PART, LIGHT-WORKING PEOPLE

[K_Dubb]

I reread your post. People with dementia can do their lifelong job for way longer then they should because they know that shit. If you're lucky that person still keeps the same persona that you're used to, often times they don't. I recommend getting your father checked out by a neurologist, not your family doctor and tell him or her that he wiggles his fingers to people that aren't there. It couldn't hurt if he's fine but it can make a huge difference in all your lives if you don't catch it right away.

Oh yes honey he has been treated for it for years now.  Shoulder hug and a kiss kiss.

[Jackstar]

No one wants to lose their independence.

Or, be reminded that they never really had it. Where did that air you're breathing come from, Mister Independent? You buy that at Wal-Mart bunyip?

"Independence" is a pipe dream. We are all of us, instead: interdependent. At least, we ought to be... some people have not figured this out yet.

Hopefully they're not waiting for their spouse to explain it to them. Yeesh. That could take years of passionate ambivalence.

[K_Dubb]

Seeking help is a sign of weakness. Or some say/think. Also one has to recall than in decades past though healthcare was cheaper it was often out of pocket because insurance hadn't taken over everything or was available to everyone. Or you lived somewhere far away from doctors. And with regard to mental health that was a stigma and just a sign of weakness and shame.

Yes, and also that calamity was a sign of moral failure/God's wrath/just plain being unlucky so must be minimized.  I still practice denial if I get a scratchy throat and most of the time it works, and that old superstition sometimes referred to as "naming calls".

[Dr. MD MD]

Or, be reminded that they never really had it. Where did that air you're breathing come from, Mister Independent? You buy that at Wal-Mart bunyip?

"Independence" is a pipe dream. We are all of us, instead: interdependent. At least, we ought to be... some people have not figured this out yet.

Hopefully they're not waiting for their spouse to explain it to them. Yeesh. That could take years of passionate ambivalence.

While there is truth to what you’re saying no one really wants to be relegated to having all their decisions made by a committee for them.

[K_Dubb]

We are all of us, instead: interdependent. At least, we ought to be...

Commie faggot.

INB4 doc

[Roswells, Art]

Oh yes honey he has been treated for it for years now.  Shoulder hug and a kiss kiss.

He's been treated for dementia for years? That would have been good information like five posts ago!

BTW, I thought the shoulder hug and kiss was always implied.

[Dr. MD MD]

Commie faggot.

INB4 doc

I was tempted to go there but Jack make a legit point, just one that doesn’t translate well into real life.

[Dr. MD MD]

BTW, I thought the shoulder hug and kiss was always implied.

I figured that too. OK, you’ve hugged me long enough now.

[Jackstar]

Commie faggot.

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[Jackstar]

Jack make a legit point

*mic drop*

[albrecht]

Yes, and also that calamity was a sign of moral failure/God's wrath/just plain being unlucky so must be minimized.  I still practice denial if I get a scratchy throat and most of the time it works, and that old superstition sometimes referred to as "naming calls".

Scratchy throat? I just gargle salt water and toomeric, then take 10 packs of Tangy Tangerine, and scarf down a few dozen eggs- soft boiled. 
Yeah like naming: "The Big C," if it is even mentioned at all.
I also like phrasing like "his heart attacked him," as if the heart has separate agency and decided to go after the host. I recall Art had some show about some people who took the nature of people who 'donated' an organ to them.

[chefist]

Oh yes that is certainly true, and they enlist you to coach them through it once they feel the walls closing in.  Though some of that is cultural or generational:  Dad cut several toes off with the lawnmower when I was a kid and was only with difficulty persuaded to go to the hospital, insisting on driving himself.

Sorry to hear about your pops...any type of mental disease with our loved ones is a purgatory that many cannot understand.

[K_Dubb]

Sorry to hear about your pops...any type of mental disease with our loved ones is a purgatory that many cannot understand.

Thank you cheffy

[Roswells, Art]

He certainly appeared to be losing his grip, but we mostly know him from when he was married to Ramona, who sounded like she acted as his handler and channelled his instincts. Married to that child bride it's no wonder he wandered off the reservation. He also led a very sedentary life for a long time and it can't help your mental acuity if you spend most of your life shuffling between your double-wide and ham shack. For what it's worth, I think there was a kernel of truth (at least in his mind) to the shooting incident but he blew it way out of proportion. He was clearly looking to stop doing the show and it was a convenient pretext. Also, his COPD can't have helped his decision-making.

I used to have a link to a guys website whom wanted to get on the air with Art. He posted the entire transcript on his website that actually made him look like a douche, not Ramona. It did show that Ramona was very adept at vetting guests and also wouldn't put up with any bullshit. First, he was trying to get onto Art's Dreamland show which had a lot less listeners than Coast to Coast and he might have had a chance until he started trying to charm Ramona by saying "RA" means something important in ancient Egyptian. Then he tried to elbow is way into being on Coast to Coast instead of Dreamland, and at that point Ramona said something along the lines of "I don't think we can use you on either show, Goodbye"

[Silphion]

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