Art Bell

[WhiteCrow]

I hope that's true for his daughter's sake.  Only Art can say if that's the case and I don't really think he should be posting anything about it anyway.  I just think blindly following anyone is foolish.   I was merely trying to point out that Art is a human being, flawed like the rest of us.   If he comes back, I will listen.  I might even subscribe again.  I was never mad about the situation.  Shocked, yes, but not mad.  I didn't put all the hours in that many of his fans did.   

The only problem I had with Art leaving is that he didn't immediately refund and unsubscribe everyone from his show archives.   To leave everyone subscribed to Heather seemed a little snakey to me, knowing full well that many people would not really know how to unsubscribe or maybe miss the email - like I did - in fact, I didn't even get it.   

No Hoodie for you.

[Auslandia]

As long as we don't get 2 hours of "Roswells Art" or "Its so great to hear your voice" I'll be tuning in.  If it turns into a barrage of zombie callers like the first week Art was on the air, I'll probably tune out.  Callers screw up everything.  The guy yelling at his dog should make an appearance though.  Maybe a couple of braaaps and people who have not extinguished their devices just to keep it nostalgic.

[Inglorious Bitch]

So what does asking the same questions here ad nauseam accomplish? You'll ask these questions of Bellgabbers but not Art Bell himself? Seems like your interest is not in answers at all.

When people here discuss the answers to the "questions", it is speculation. So we don't have the real answers. Art has had multiply opportunities to answer the many questions that are asked here. He apparently lurks 24/7, I'm sure he's seen everything asked and discussed. Asking Art the tough questions won't get us truthful answers, either. So we are back to square 1, which is to discussing it amongst ourselves. Do do realize that, don't you? Or are you naive enough to think that he will suddenly answer questions that he has refused to answer until now. Even now, he is saying that there are some things that he can't discuss.

[WhiteCrow]

Sadly, I dont- my memory sucks and I distinguish posters visually based on their avatar in most cases. Since you fuckers switch avatars around here like CIG switches TOS's I lose track of whos who and am just left to assume that I wont be receiving Christmas cards from very many of you around here.

Suffice it to say I have I pretty good idea what your affections are for me and I dont think ill be getting you into a gimp suit anytime soon. If you guys would quit playing musical avatars we might get somewhere- But noooooooo...Too much to ask in this fucking case.

Anyhow, my dog loves me sometimes-And that good enough for me.

You are amazing. You're a Psychiatrist!

I'll send you a "This is White Crow" Christmas Card.
No worries, friend!

[Jackstar]

Even now, he is saying that there are some things that he can't discuss.

Could it be angels?

[Jesus Undercarriage]

Oh, because actually trying to do something to help Art is terrible? what have you done besides lick nuts? Forget my motives, if the stalker IS real I am offering a way to resolve this issue at no cost to Art. this is a win/win.

If I had a stalker I wouldnt give a shit about the motives of someone who was willing to do all the legwork for me, get me a PI and help me get back to work or life or whatever...

I'm putting up a legitimate offer. Art didnt use his 20k "reward" to hire a PI (and for 20K  you could get a team on that shit) so I assume the idea of parting with money over this isnt 'worth the peace of mind' to Art. So we (the fans) can fund the investigation.

I dont see a problem. I'm actually the only one offering a valid solution.- What do you suggest ?

In general you've been a total cock since you joined the forum, and I already gave you my suggestion.

[RealCool Daddio]

I've always been an Art Bell Fan, and I always will be an Art Bell Fan.

Try substituting "Art Bell" with "Gary Glitter", or "Bill Cosby", and you will understand why your kind of fandom is worrisome.

[Coffeeman]

As long as we don't get 2 hours of "Roswells Art" or "Its so great to hear your voice" I'll be tuning in.  If it turns into a barrage of zombie callers like the first week Art was on the air, I'll probably tune out.  Callers screw up everything.  The guy yelling at his dog should make an appearance though.  Maybe a couple of braaaps and people who have not extinguished their devices just to keep it nostalgic.

Get TuneIn rocking on every device you have (minimum of 9, stream multiple instances of VLC if you have to) then call in. Extra points if you turn on an electric razor and set it on a tile floor, output each stream to multiple speakers of varying crappy quality, and add extra delay.

[BellBoy]

When people here discuss the answers to the "questions", it is speculation. So we don't have the real answers. Art has had multiply opportunities to answer the many questions that are asked here. He apparently lurks 24/7, I'm sure he's seen everything asked and discussed. Asking Art the tough questions won't get us truthful answers, either. So we are back to square 1, which is to discussing it amongst ourselves. Do do realize that, don't you? Or are you naive enough to think that he will suddenly answer questions that he has refused to answer until now. Even now, he is saying that there are some things that he can't discuss.

As true as that is IB, there will be value in simply having had the questions asked. Art will then have an opportunity to be forthcoming and answer the questions, like a man... or he can go the other way and come off as an evasive little prick. Sometimes the way a question isn't answered, speaks louder than anything.

[CornyCrow]

. . .
The only problem I had with Art leaving is that he didn't immediately refund and unsubscribe everyone from his show archives.   To leave everyone subscribed to Heather seemed a little snakey to me, knowing full well that many people would not really know how to unsubscribe or maybe miss the email - like I did - in fact, I didn't even get it.   

From day one he was pushing Heather on us.  Where we are now may be exactly where he WANTED to end up. 

[Jackstar]

From day one he was pushing Heather on us.  Where we are now may be exactly where he WANTED to end up.

Heather's ascension was inevitable, and those of you who haven't grokked this fundamental truth aren't even qualified to be a part of a discussion about it.

[creepygreenlight]

Anyone else believe that Trump will in fact appear at the debate?

When I watch the Presidential race coverage I feel like I'm living inside The Truman Show. Trump is the guy trying to "cross the bridge"... he's the one trying to break the system down and cause the robots to short circuit, I love it.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

sublime

[Uncle Duke]

Anyone care to suggest a reason why Art will not answer straight forward questions about the reward he offered for information on the stalker?

[SredniVashtar]

I apologize in advance for the tone of this post, I have been weeping for your plight again.

Man up, bitch! Still, all that girly whimpering does bring out your natural colouring, which I find both pathetic and - yes, I admit it - sexy. You look so vulnerable I probably wouldn't even need the pills and duct tape this time, although you always say you prefer it that way.

Consistency in that everything Art's said on the matter has been consistent. I haven't seen anything contradictory that would lead me to believe I was being fed a bullshit story. It just looked to me like Art was a guy stuck in a bad situation making hasty, bad decisions.

It's consistent in that none of it is really checkable or independently verifiable. You only have to go through what he has said recently - it's mostly assertions that we can't find any evidence for: for example, he sees a figure but can't make out a face; someone fires shots and drives off, but we don't get a licence plate; no shell casings can be identified etc etc. It's fine to take him on his word, but be aware that that is all that you are really doing. You are putting the cart before the horse: you think he's right because you see no reason for him to be wrong. I don't think that's good enough.

It's completely consistent with someone backpedaling from misstatements and trying to minimize the damage. While I will say that I believe Art's telling the truth, I think the decisions made in response to the threat were ill-thought-out and needlessly damaging. 

Isn't backpedalling from misstatements another way of saying that he was inconsistent? You might want to reform this position, it's up to you.

In light of Art's clarification about the phone threat today, you may want to reform this position. Up to you.

I can't remember what I said, but I would assume it was both wise and deeply learned. I shall stick by my default position, that I am always right.

Well, actually, he hit the TV interview circuit and shelled out a bunch more novels in the aftermath of that. That was one hell of a lucrative fatwa. If he was as scared as you suggest, the response is not to maintain a high public profile, but get yourself as far off of the Shi'ite radar as you can. If I were him, I'd have been living in fucking Greenland with the Inuit and no one would have ever heard a word out of me again until I dropped dead from a heart attack from all the seal blubber.

Well, he had a bodyguard assigned to him by the government for many years, so they seemed to take it seriously. As years went by there were grumblings about public money being spent on some bloody scribbler. As far as I know, you don't have to write novels on stage in front of a live audience, so I don't think you can blame the man for continuing to write in private.

I think he stuck his head out the door, looked around, decided the threat was minimal at that time and they went out and had fun. I would have done the same thing even if I were under threat, though snow here is something we spit at and loathe. Art's a human Sredni, humans do spontaneous human things.

I can understand a spontaneous wish to gratify his daughter. It's the posting it on FB that is more of a head-scratcher. Making up a bullshit story on the spur of the moment is also a 'spontaneous human thing'. Just sayin'...

None of us here know where that "Show me" state crap came from. We all know it should be the "Meth lab state". As far as being on the jury at your murder trial, you don't want that. I would vote guilty simply on the basis of your villainous accent.

The explanation I subscribe to is that your typical Missourian is about as much use as a bag of elbows, with the intellect of a table lamp. Because it's a waste of time trying to tell them anything with words you have to point it all out to them, as you would a half-witted bonobo.

I can already tell you that this film is going nowhere. Nowhere. Just like I told you Star Wars ep. VII would go nowhere. Firstly, you're underusing your talent. You've cast Falkie as the grassy knoll. While knoll may be a strangely applicable term, I would suggest you recast him as Pahrump. Actually, fuck it, I will direct the film. We need a triple extra large shark suit, a shitload of explosives, bad ass hotrods, some marijuana, you cast as the villain, a couple fake handlebar moustaches, a Harley Davidson, a full sized mock up of a UFO and Sigourney Weaver. You want a movie, I'll make you a fucking movie. Probably won't have much to do with Art though. Well, maybe he can do a cameo water ski jumping the Falkie-Shark with explosions going off as a backdrop. That would be bad ass.

Reading this last bit back, I don't think we need too much marijuana if you are going to be on set. And stop muscling in on the Falkie action! Oh, and Weaver's too expensive. I've got Kirstie Alley - she's the size of a UFO and I think we can make it work, if she holds still enough for me to apply the spray paint. I think Falkie's miscast as a shark anyway, he's more of a manatee. In fact there's very little between the two these days, except the manatee is marginally more industrious.

[creepygreenlight]

I dont think we'll ever get real answers to much of anything

Well, they need to be fair and reasonable questions for it to be a palatable interview.  I'd be surprised if Art goes through with it if he catches wind that it'll be a bloodfest, but who knows since he really has nothing left to lose at this point. 

He knows that the gabcast audience is extremely small, not a huge risk there for public embarrassment. 

I've never even heard the show, but I'd tune in for Art.  I'm pretty sure he knows that he may be walking into the lion's den...

[CornyCrow]

Anyone care to suggest a reason why Art will not answer straight forward questions about the reward he offered for information on the stalker?

Art answers only what he wants and when he wants to.  I think some of that talent that makes him able to lead interviews/guests to interesting places - the ability that makes some people awed - can also result in him being manipulative in other relationships.  Perhaps this is fine if we are but a means to his ends and he is in control of this talent, but it's disastrous if he's only marginally aware that he does this and it bleeds through in his personal relationships. 

[SredniVashtar]

What is the point of Art appearing on the Gabcast? It's a damned-if-you-do and damned-if- you-don't situation for the host. If the host asks Art softball questions, the host will look like a Milquetoast. If he asks the "hard" questions, then he will be labeled as a "troll" by Art's ever present army of sycophants.

I don't think you can be labelled a troll if you are there talking to him and asking questions. It's not the Nuremberg Trials, and it would be just a matter of raising the questions that people want to hear about. It would be about hearing his reaction to the questions as much as the answers themselves. If they are feeble answers then that's how they come across. Nobody wants to hear him be called names or attacked, because there is not enough riding on it for that sort of approach to be worthwhile.

Besides, even if you wanted to be the "dick" who asks Art any tough questions, who's to say that he would answer them? Politicians get asked tough questions all the time, but never answer them directly. They just deflect and give their practiced responses.

Art isn't a practiced interviewee. He hardly ever puts himself in the position of having to explain himself. When he tries to do that he seems to raise more questions in turn, rather than put matters to rest. When you hear someone who has had media training the results are so dull as to be not worth bothering with. Art isn't managed by anyone, and couldn't play the media game whether he wanted to or not.

Art has a platform every single night. A three hour platform. All he needs to do is call into his own show, like he has on 2 occasions already and take unscreened calls. How is a Gabcast going to be any different from that? Or maybe Heather can interview him again.

When he is taking calls on his show he will still sound like he's the boss. It would be a disappointment, and the temptation would always be there to cut people off, or for the callers to be needlessly sycophantic.

[Uncle Duke]

Art answers only what he wants and when he wants to.  I think some of that talent that makes him able to lead interviews/guests to interesting places - the ability that makes some people awed - can also result in him being manipulative in other relationships.  Perhaps this is fine if we are but a means to his ends and he is in control of this talent, but it's disastrous if he's only marginally aware that he does this and it bleeds through in his personal relationships.

Yes, I've made those points previously.  What I don't understand is why he won't address what is clearly a "real question" relative to an action he personal initiated to resolve a situation he felt put his family in danger. 

[SredniVashtar]

Anyone care to suggest a reason why Art will not answer straight forward questions about the reward he offered for information on the stalker?

I'm torn between three reasons:

1) There was no stalker.
2) There was no reward.
3) He only mentioned a possible reward to give spurious validity to a story that doesn't hold much water.

[Soylentblue]

I do not have 10 million dollars, another myth. Where does this stuff come from? Not even close!

Art

LULZ, could this be the Art Bell who has sworn off from ever posting here again.

The same Art that said that he was done w/social media?

Art, you are too funny and too predictable.

[CornyCrow]

I'm torn between three reasons:

1) There was no stalker.
2) There was no reward.
3) He only mentioned a possible reward to give spurious validity to a story that doesn't hold much water.

Yes, and if all along he'd really wanted to so the show, he would be actively taking steps to resolve this issue - but if the present situation is the ending that he'd intended all along, he would do nothing to apprehend the stalker. 

I think we all know what his decision is. 

[ponyboysunset]

Prediction:
The gabcast will be Art taking tons of calls from fans and promoting Heather. I'm withdrawing my official offering to be the detractor voice if we were still doing that. No good can come of it.So best of luck to you all I hope it is a raving success. And I truly mean that.

[Inglorious Bitch]

Prediction:
The gabcast will be Art taking tons of calls from fans and promoting Heather.

You know it.

[Jackstar]

Prediction:
The gabcast will be Art taking tons a couple of calls from fans ringers and promoting Heather.

Obligatory fixed. I ain't even mad, bro.

Wait--are you even a bro?

[Ciardelo]

Prediction:
The gabcast will be Art taking tons of calls from fans and promoting Heather. I'm withdrawing my official offering to be the detractor voice if we were still doing that. No good can come of it.So best of luck to you all I hope it is a raving success. And I truly mean that.

What happened to "2012 Bitches!"   

[ponyboysunset]

Obligatory fixed. I ain't even mad, bro.

Wait--are you even a bro?

Nope, I'm a chick. You know this Jackstar. When the war is over you just surrender and go about your business. There's no point anymore.

[Jackstar]

What I don't understand is et cetera

Uncle, I'm sorry, I forgot--tell us that story again about how where you're at on the Kennedy murders? It gets better every time!

[Jackstar]

Nope, I'm a chick. You know this Jackstar.

Dude! Chicks can be bros!

Wait--are you even a dude?

[Father Jack]

SredniVashtar and the Sci Fi Cetacean have hereby won free lifetime memberships to T.W.A.T.