President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

What, that somebody planted that two-page addendum to give CNN cover to report on it?  Been thinking that for a week now.

I think Trump has, or suspects he has, a problem with some aligned interest, officially connected to his campaign or not, working with Russian hackers.  The leaks were too precisely targeted and timed to be anything else.  I think you're seeing the outer defense, outright denial, weakening.  You will recall this is the question that CNN reporter was trying to ask when Trump shut him down.

Ockham's razor, my son. I find it easier to believe in Bigfoot.  :

[Kidnostad3]

When I see somebody like Pence acting weaselly I worry.

He's acting like he should act.  Have you ever seen a Vice President throw himself and his boss under the bus on a Sunday News Program.  He weighed his words carefully and gave as much information as he thought Prudent. In a perfect world he would be totally forthcoming and cop to every true thing.  If he were testifying under oath he probably would be more direct and candid but he is being watched by millions of Americans half of whom want Trump's scalp. Some call it spin.  Ask yourself what you would do under the same circumstances.   

Just Sayin'.

[PB the Deplorable]

Yeah, sure, question everything.  I get it.

But Trump surrogates concocting the lie about HRC having a child sex slave ring?  That ended rather dangerously.  We had a Trump staffer ON THE AIR blaming Obama for invading Iraq and Afghanistan (hint: he did not, that was GWB).  I can see why people on the Right would be wary of NYT or whatever, but Trump has told 100 outright lies for each discrepancy from the Left.

How can you possibly believe all of Trump lies, EMPIRICALLY PROVEN FALSEHOODS, yet pretend to call bullshit on CNN?  It's absurd.

I've already asked you when I've ever posted anything about any HRC child slave ring, and haven't gotten a response -  unless this is it. 

I'm pretty sure I've never accused Obama of invading Iraq or Afghanistan, although after eight years of policy failure he's certainly responsible for much damage there and elsewhere.  Tell me which other ''Trump lies and falsehoods'' you think I've posted about and we can go over them.  Please be specific.

I don't need to go over every lie ever told by everyone, when my current interest in the Democrat Fake News Media, and I'm certainly not responsible for every comment or opinion out there you don't agree with.  He's not even president yet - if and when he goes off the rails, Trump's turn will come.

[Kidnostad3]

I dunno, I can only assume you guys are like 16 or 18yo, because I remember the 8 years BEFORE Obama.  We had two failed invasions which bankrupted the country.  Tax cuts for the rich and deregulation which resulted in a recession and stock market crash (that one stung).  We had people talking about BREAD LINES at the end of Bush Jr.  Don't forget that shit. 

So where have I been the last 8 years?  Enjoying relative peace and prosperity.  YES, old White guys like me are sorta getting our comeuppance as nature/justice takes it's course, but I was relieved be NOT embarrassed of our leader for a change when I would travel abroad.  I took that for granted...

Yeah we know all that.  You are comparing bad acts with other bad acts.  You still haven't told us why you are 100% convinced that Obama's figures are accurate whereas we have told you why we don't trust them unambiguously and repeatedly.   Other than to tell us that you don't approve of the actions of the Bush Administration you have told us nothing.  Please elucidate.

[Kidnostad3]

What, that somebody planted that two-page addendum to give CNN cover to report on it?  Been thinking that for a week now.

I think Trump has, or suspects he has, a problem with some aligned interest, officially connected to his campaign or not, working with Russian hackers.  The leaks were too precisely targeted and timed to be anything else.  I think you're seeing the outer defense, outright denial, weakening.  You will recall this is the question that CNN reporter was trying to ask when Trump shut him down.

I think you might have something here.

[PB the Deplorable]

... why deflect unless you are reluctant to answer?

Because he's seen the Fake News ''Got'cha'' Media in action before?  You know, where any comment can be twisted into something else entirely.

Ask Sarah Palin.  Or any non-''Progressive''

[PB the Deplorable]

Wallace asked him three times because he wasn't answering the question.

Without seeing it, I'm guessing he wasn't answering it the way Wallace wanted it answered.  You know, to give him something useful to smear him with.

The Trump Administration shouldn't even be talking to the Fake News outlets AT ALL, nor inviting them to any press conferences.  And tell the American people why.

They want to lie, smear, mischaracterize, discredit, carry on their little war on behalf of the Ds, let 'em do it on their own time.

[Yorkshire pud]

Because he's seen the Fake News ''Got'cha'' Media in action before?  You know, where any comment can be twisted into something else entirely.

Ask Sarah Palin.  Or any non-''Progressive''

How can it be twisted if its a direct answer to a direct question? Palin whines because she's stupid and doesn't think before opening her mouth.

[Yorkshire pud]

Without seeing it, I'm guessing he wasn't answering it the way Wallace wanted it answered.  You know, to give him something useful to smear him with.

The Trump Administration shouldn't even be talking to the Fake News outlets AT ALL, nor inviting them to any press conferences.  And tell the American people why.

They want to lie, smear, mischaracterize, discredit, carry on their little war on behalf of the Ds, let 'em do it on their own time.

Yeah, that's going to go well. Trump tweeting (insert current ill informed rant) at 3am in response to perfectly legitimate concern or enquiry.

You really think that a press less Presidency is going to keep you informed?

[PB the Deplorable]

... You really think that a press less Presidency is going to keep you informed?

You really think Obama and the Democrat Fake News Media has been keeping you informed?

[PB the Deplorable]

How can it be twisted if its a direct answer to a direct question? Palin whines because she's stupid and doesn't think before opening her mouth.

Much of the dumb comments that have been attributed to her came from Saturday Night Live skits.  Much of the rest was her either too careful and ending up giving poor answers, comments being taken out of context, or flat out lies about what she said.

Every one makes dumb comments.  With the Democrat Fake News Media, the dumb things someone like Obama says are ignored, while the dumb things Sarah Palin says are made to go viral.  Ds being interviewed are given softball question after softball question, while the Rs are given tough - if not trick - question after question. 

I'm surprised you haven't noticed any of this.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I don't get why so many people here automatically assume that dislike of DT equates with a full embrace of a far left or any other kind of agenda. I've disliked him for many years because he's a crass, misogynistic blowhard with no self-control who has no ethical or moral center, and whose only core beliefs are self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement by any means necessary. I truly believe he has never given a shit about another human being except maybe his kids. Feel free to believe what you like about my politics even though almost none of you know anything about me, but don't assume they have anything to do with the disgust and loathing I feel for the president-elect. That's strictly personal.

[K_Dubb]

Without seeing it, I'm guessing he wasn't answering it the way Wallace wanted it answered.  You know, to give him something useful to smear him with.

The Trump Administration shouldn't even be talking to the Fake News outlets AT ALL, nor inviting them to any press conferences.  And tell the American people why.

They want to lie, smear, mischaracterize, discredit, carry on their little war on behalf of the Ds, let 'em do it on their own time.

Watch it and tell me what you see.  I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like I'm in good company.  I think those veteran reporters smell a new, electronic Watergate (that was a DNC break-in, too) if Trump tries to cover things up.  No wonder Pence was being careful.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-presses-pence-was-there-any-contact-between-trump-associates-and-russia/

[Yorkshire pud]

You really think Obama and the Democrat Fake News Media has been keeping you informed?

The wall to wall coverage that Trump recieved to the almost complete lack of coverage of the candidates he was up against in the primaries was a fake news (aka Dem media) plot?  If Trump so much as changed his tie it was covered by several camera crews in a helicopter.

[Dr. MD MD]

I don't get why so many people here automatically assume that dislike of DT equates with a full embrace of a far left or any other kind of agenda. I've disliked him for many years because he's a crass, misogynistic blowhard with no self-control who has no ethical or moral center, and whose only core beliefs are self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement by any means necessary. I truly believe he has never given a shit about another human being except maybe his kids. Feel free to believe what you like about my politics even though almost none of you know anything about me, but don't assume they have anything to do with the disgust and loathing I feel for the president-elect. That's strictly personal.

So, because you and your leftist buddies find him distasteful we should believe this Russia story?! 

[Dr. MD MD]

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like I'm in good company.  I think those veteran reporters smell a new, electronic Watergate (that was a DNC break-in, too) if Trump tries to cover things up.  No wonder Pence was being careful.

Yep, your thinking's all fucked up. You consider yourself in good company with veteran reporters?! 

[PB the Deplorable]

Yeah, that's going to go well. Trump tweeting (insert current ill informed rant) at 3am in response to perfectly legitimate concern or enquiry.

You really think that a press less Presidency is going to keep you informed?

There are other outlets that can be invited to do interviews and attend press conferences.  If the Ds can have their own ''journalists'', why shouldn't Trump?

Obviously that's not ideal, but for the good of the country, the one-sided, dishonest, unfair media - who are advocates and accomplices more than they are journalists - needs to be fully exposed, and hopefully either replaced, or forced to self-correct or die.  The current status of professional ''journalism'' is pathetic, disgusting, and damaging to our republic.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

So, because you and your leftist buddies find him distasteful we should believe this Russia story?! 

Believe whatever the hell you like. It's not my concern.

[PB the Deplorable]

I don't get why so many people here automatically assume that dislike of DT equates with a full embrace of a far left or any other kind of agenda. I've disliked him for many years because he's a crass, misogynistic blowhard with no self-control who has no ethical or moral center, and whose only core beliefs are self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement by any means necessary. I truly believe he has never given a shit about another human being except maybe his kids. Feel free to believe what you like about my politics even though almost none of you know anything about me, but don't assume they have anything to do with the disgust and loathing I feel for the president-elect. That's strictly personal.

I'm pretty much with you on most of that. 

Job One was the defeat of Hilary Clinton.  He accomplished that, and in the process defeated the insufferable Republican DC Establishment.  He has the putrid Media and the rest of the real Deplorables in high distress.  He doesn't really have to do much else for the next four years to have been a successful presidency.

Control the border, end any Moslem refugee resettlement in the US, get the government out of the way of the economy, cut damaging regulations, end the abuses of ObamaCare, put our foreign policy back on a sensible course, roll back as much of Obama's BS as he can, etc, etc, and he can't help but be very popular and successful despite the flaws you reference.  This should all be a slam dunk compared to how his predecessor has operated.

Based on his Cabinet picks, I'm hoping he'll sort of stay out of the way and let them run things by committee while he flies around tweeting and making pointless comments that people will soon learn to ignore.

[PB the Deplorable]

The wall to wall coverage that Trump recieved to the almost complete lack of coverage of the candidates he was up against in the primaries was a fake news (aka Dem media) plot?...

You're catching on.

He was the one they wanted to run Hilary against.

[SredniVashtar]

There are other outlets that can be invited to do interviews and attend press conferences.  If the Ds can have their own ''journalists'', why shouldn't Trump?

Obviously that's not ideal, but for the good of the country, the one-sided, dishonest, unfair media - who are advocates and accomplices more than they are journalists - needs to be fully exposed, and hopefully either replaced, or forced to self-correct or die.  The current status of professional ''journalism'' is pathetic, disgusting, and damaging to our republic.

What happened to  you? You used to be fairly reasonable about Trump, but now you've gone native and turned into this splenetic blunderbuss of rage. I'm starting to think that the real PB was stolen by gypsies.

[SredniVashtar]

So, because you and your leftist buddies find him distasteful we should believe this Russia story?! 

Why don't you try responding with something other than a sneer for a change? The problem with you (well, one of them. It would take too long to list all of your problems) is that you will believe absolutely what you like. You don't allow yourself to be proved wrong, that's why you don't get any respect from intelligent people.

[PB the Deplorable]

What happened to  you? You used to be fairly reasonable about Trump, but now you've gone native and turned into this splenetic blunderbuss of rage. I'm starting to think that the real PB was stolen by gypsies.

This is all much more about our despicable Media that about Trump. 

I haven't changed my opinion of him other than I'm surprised and pleased with some of his Cabinet choices, which give me hope for his administration.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm pretty much with you on most of that. 

Job One was the defeat of Hilary Clinton.  He accomplished that, and in the process defeated the insufferable Republican DC Establishment.  He has the putrid Media and the rest of the real Deplorables in high distress.  He doesn't really have to do much else for the next four years to have been a successful presidency.

Control the border, end any Moslem refugee resettlement in the US, get the economy going again, cut damaging regulations, end the abuses of ObamaCare, put our foreign policy back on a sensible course, etc, etc, and he can't help but be very popular despite the flaws you reference.  This should all be a slam dunk compared to how his predecessor has operated.

Based on his Cabinet picks, I'm hoping he'll sort of stay out of the way and let them run things by committee while he flies around tweeting and making pointless comments that people will soon learn to ignore.

That's a pretty tall order for someone who blusters through life reflexively reacting to external stimuli with all the thought and careful consideration of a Komodo dragon.

[PB the Deplorable]

That's a pretty tall order for someone who blusters through life reflexively reacting to external stimuli with all the thought and careful consideration of a Komodo dragon.

We'll see.  It looks like a fairly low bar to me.

He has a Cabinet to do the work and put the documents to be signed on his desk, and a Congress to pass the legislation.

[Yorkshire pud]

So, because you and your leftist buddies find him distasteful we should believe this Russia story?! 

I thought you were trolling, but you really have no comprehension of what anyone says. And then try to be clever with those who you disagree with.

Its okay, don't respond.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I thought you were trolling, but you really have no comprehension of what anyone says. And then try to be clever with those who you disagree with.

Its okay, don't respond.

Yeah, but what about the queen? 

[3OctaveFart]

I'm pretty much with you on most of that. 

Job One was the defeat of Hilary Clinton.  He accomplished that, and in the process defeated the insufferable Republican DC Establishment.  He has the putrid Media and the rest of the real Deplorables in high distress.  He doesn't really have to do much else for the next four years to have been a successful presidency.

Control the border, end any Moslem refugee resettlement in the US, get the government out of the way of the economy, cut damaging regulations, end the abuses of ObamaCare, put our foreign policy back on a sensible course, roll back as much of Obama's BS as he can, etc, etc, and he can't help but be very popular and successful despite the flaws you reference.  This should all be a slam dunk compared to how his predecessor has operated.

Based on his Cabinet picks, I'm hoping he'll sort of stay out of the way and let them run things by committee while he flies around tweeting and making pointless comments that people will soon learn to ignore.

Nothing in this fool's four decades in public life suggests he'll "stay out of the way."

[paladin1991]

As long as you are doing your job and not bringing the business into disrepute they don't have any right to interfere in the lives of their employees. This sort of creeping authoritarianism can work its way into other areas of life too. It's the principle that's at stake, not the details of a particular case. If you start privileging people's  beliefs in that way then you'd be obliged to respect anyone's crazy ideas. We give far too much respect to religion simply because it's always been there, not because it has any justification in fact.

Wait.  Are you talking about Mormons or Muslims?

[Yorkshire pud]

Yeah, but what about the queen? 

Brenda is anointed. She needs no help from me in her reptilian adventures. Your erudite and comprehensive mauling of Trump's character reminded me of the old times, pre Flomax.