President Donald J. Trump

[Jackstar]

the MSM going on about "Fake News"

Fake news is nothing but a conspiracy theory. Just ignore it.

[Yorkshire pud]

I know this is a little off thread topic, but I'm very upset about this.
Does anyone find it ironic that Hillary is on the MSM going on about "Fake News", while ironically, they interpret the law to allow MSM to lie?

http://projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

I don't see the problem. If, as we're led to believe, all msn is lies, most of the time, what is wrong with making it legal?  That way at least, its more honest, as it were.

[Jackstar]

all msn is lies

[ItsOver]

I know this is a little off thread topic, but I'm very upset about this.
Does anyone find it ironic that Hillary is on the MSM going on about "Fake News", while ironically, they interpret the law to allow MSM to lie?

http://projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Ha, the "Fake News" talking about "Fake News."

[Lilith]

I don't see the problem. If, as we're led to believe, all msn is lies, most of the time, what is wrong with making it legal?  That way at least, its more honest, as it were.

The cause of my upset, is with Hillary on the News, ranting about "Fake News" as though the "alternative media" is guilty of something that main stream media is NOT guilty of.  Maybe I didn't explain that well enough...

my bad 

[Lilith]

Ha, the "Fake News" talking about "Fake News."

Finally, SOMEBODY understands me. 

[Inglorious Bitch]

Ha, the "Fake News" talking about "Fake News."

It's all very Orwellian. Doublespeak. Up is down and down is up.

[ItsOver]

It's all very Orwellian. Up is down and down is up.

"Thuh Ministry of Troooth!"

[Inglorious Bitch]

The cause of my upset, is with Hillary on the News, ranting about "Fake News" as though the "alternative media" is guilty of something that main stream media is NOT guilty of.  Maybe I didn't explain that well enough...

my bad 

I trust the alternative media more than I trust the bought and paid for media whore spokes models that deliver the (cough) "news".

[Inglorious Bitch]

"Thuh Ministry of Troooth Turmeric!"

FIFY

[FightTheFuture]

Fake news is nothing but a conspiracy theory. Just ignore it.

Negative, sir!

It`s an enigma, wrapped in a lie and deep fried in conspiracy. Bon appétit, amigo!

[Lilith]

I trust the alternative media more than I trust the bought and paid for media whore spokes models that deliver the (cough) "news".

Me too!  Especially the alternative news available on UFOship.com.

[Lilith]

"Thuh Ministry of Troooth!"

Or maybe The Ministry of Tooth:

Bull. I went to my dentist 6 or 7 times and they kept xraying my tooth and kept telling me there was nothing they could find.
It wasn't until both I and Kathy went in and raised hell about their incompetence that a new doctor finally found the abcess and pulled the damned tooth.
And my penis working or not is irrelevant.
As one ages one may have problems in that area for any number of reasons.
Bringing it up is bullshit and has little to with the above.
I gained weight because I was bedridden and vomiting up mucus for up to and including 23 hours a day non stop.
I raised hell with the administration office of the hospital here because I was NOT receiving adequate treatment. Kathy went into the hospital official's office with me as well to tell him what she had to do to assist me including driving me to the er on multiple occasions.
They got the doctor I had been seeing to re-examine me and he made his diagnosis.
It has nothing to do with being LAZY.
I was gravely ill. What can't you comprehend about that ?
Or do I have to stack up my medical record files in a video for all to see and my xrays, cat scans, etc.? I still have copies of those xrays and cat scans here.
I wasn't always fat either.
So shut the hell up about it.
I weighed 260 when I fell on the escalator on BART and used to walk 3 miles a day on a regular basis until I wound up on crutches because my knee injury was never treated properly. And had been losing weight with all the walking. I favored my left knee and it had been previously injured as well . I was on the way to see my Mother's doctor and my doctor in San Francisco when I fell. I do not know how my shoe got caught in the moving tread of the escalator. All I know I went sudenly flying forward and landed on both kneecaps and had to get help and when I got to my doctor my right knee was swollen about 3-4 times normal size and the kneecap was fractured.  She had me xrayed and confirmed it but she is a gp and not a surgeon. I was standing on the escalator step as it went under the inspection plate.
And I did go to doctors about that as well.
You have no idea what my treatments are or were and are just speculating about it.
I lived the conditions and suffered the pain.
Ask Drone or Kathy about how I've screamed at slight movements.
The interior of my right knee has small cartiledge chips floating inside of it. That causes fluid to build up in and around my kneecap and renders me unable to put weight on the leg.
Not my words alone but my knee surgeon's. No one did anything about it for 11 years util I saw a new doctor last year who examined me last year in front of Kathy and he told me and her that I need knee surgery. He referred me to the orthopedics department.
Once I lose weight which I intend to do THIS year my kneecap will be replaced.

[Yorkshire pud]

Me too!  Especially the alternative news available on UFOship.com.

He he he he. Lolololol...Good one Brig. Wait!? You're serious? 

[Inglorious Bitch]

Me too!  Especially the alternative news available on UFOship.com.

Praise MV. He should do a news show.

[Jackstar]

Negative, sir!

It`s an enigma, wrapped in a lie and deep fried in conspiracy. Bon appétit, amigo!

Fake theory is nothing but conspiracy news. Just ignore it.

Praise MV. He should do a news show.

I have no response to that.

[GuerrillaUnReal]

With you about a 1,000,000,000% Brig. The MSM and Hillary campaigning against "Fake News" is like Ol' Country Buffet campaigning against obesity.

[chefist]

With you about a 1,000,000,000% Brig. The MSM and Hillary campaigning against "Fake News" is like Ol' Country Buffet campaigning against obesity.

So much food, so little flavor.

[Yorkshire pud]

With you about a 1,000,000,000% Brig. The MSM and Hillary campaigning against "Fake News" is like Ol' Country Buffet campaigning against obesity.

Serious question: What critical thinking protocols are being put in place to determine that all msn is false, and all none msn news is true? Are Breitbart and Alex Jones the standard by which others are judged? And who judges that standard? 

[Juan]

Serious question: What critical thinking protocols are being put in place to determine that all msn is false, and all none msn news is true? Are Breitbart and Alex Jones the standard by which others are judged? And who judges that standard?

How can an expectation of critical thinking protocols here be serious?

[GuerrillaUnReal]

Serious question: What critical thinking protocols are being put in place to determine that all msn is false, and all none msn news is true? Are Breitbart and Alex Jones the standard by which others are judged? And who judges that standard?

I just spent a year being told by the MSM that Hillary has over a 90% chance of winning. I was told that a terrorist attack resulting in the death of Americans was because of a Youtube video. I've been told the reason Obama is so discredited right now is because of those EBIL RACISTS!!! I've been told the Russian government hacked our elections despite zero evidence of that. I've been told gender and race are social constructs. I've been told climate change is the biggest threat to society. BLM... This is just off the top of my head.

Am I supposed to take any of this shit seriously?

[Lilith]

Praise MV. He should do a news show.

Absolutely, even a regular weekly half hour "Week in Review" would cheer me up significantly.

[Lilith]

Absolutely, even a regular weekly half hour "Week in Review" would cheer me up significantly.

MV would put to shame, Mark Dices' editorial on Hillarys "Fake News" rant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBDedvplyTQ

[Yorkshire pud]

I just spent a year being told by the MSM that Hillary has over a 90% chance of winning.

Welll. Strictly no. Various news outlets appoint pollster firms to erm, poll people. That isn't the fault of the news outlets if the pollsters are crap.
FWIW, I have been cynical about polls for years. I think they can influence too much. Happens here. It can make a party's supporters they're home and dry and not bother voting. 

I was told that a terrorist attack resulting in the death of Americans was because of a Youtube video. I've been told the reason Obama is so discredited right now is because of those EBIL RACISTS!!! I've been told the Russian government hacked our elections despite zero evidence of that.

Hmm. The first two are dubious agreed. The third the Russians have admitted to. But lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater, and default to saying all msn is lies and all non msn is empirical truth, eh?

I've been told gender and race are social constructs. I've been told climate change is the biggest threat to society. BLM... This is just off the top of my head.

Am I supposed to take any of this shit seriously?

See above. 

[whoozit]

That isn't the fault of the news outlets if the pollsters are crap.

I got one call that amounted to: "If the elections were held today would you vote for Hillary Clinton or the choice of the KKK, Hitler approved scumbag, Donald Trump."  I can't see how that would possibly skew the results.

[pyewacket]

The cause of my upset, is with Hillary on the News, ranting about "Fake News" as though the "alternative media" is guilty of something that main stream media is NOT guilty of.  Maybe I didn't explain that well enough...

my bad 

You expressed yourself well and clearly, Brig. Many of us feel the same way. What some people have forgotten is that we need to have a FREE press if we are to remain a free country.

If we are not careful we will become more like the old Soviet Union. I remember relatives making this joke-

“There is no pravda in Izvestia, and no izvestia in Pravda.”
(’There is no truth in news, and no news in truth.")

The Soviet Union had two important propaganda newspapers. Pravda ("truth") was the communist party newspaper and was published between 1912 and 1991. Izvestia ("news") was the government newspaper and was published between 1917 and 1991.

A little something from one of those 'forbidden' sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I

[Yorkshire pud]

You expressed yourself well and clearly, Brig. Many of us feel the same way. What some people have forgotten is that we need to have a FREE press if we are to remain a free country.

If we are not careful we will become more like the old Soviet Union. I remember relatives making this joke-

“There is no pravda in Izvestia, and no izvestia in Pravda.”
(’There is no truth in news, and no news in truth.")

The Soviet Union had two important propaganda newspapers. Pravda ("truth") was the communist party newspaper and was published between 1912 and 1991. Izvestia ("news") was the government newspaper and was published between 1917 and 1991.

A little something from one of those 'forbidden' sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I

The supreme irony being that many anti Clinton/pro Trump 'news' credits, were linked to RT. Which is directly answerable to Putin.

It begs the question as I asked earlier; What is the protocol for establishing that 'fake' isn't and  msn news is false ? Gut feeling? Tea leaves? Runes?

[pyewacket]

The supreme irony being that many anti Clinton/pro Trump 'news' credits, were linked to RT. Which is directly answerable to Putin.

It begs the question as I asked earlier; What is the protocol for establishing that 'fake' isn't and  msn news is false ? Gut feeling? Tea leaves? Runes?

You tell us- you express your feelings on the subject repeatedly.

[pyewacket]

Absolutely, even a regular weekly half hour "Week in Review" would cheer me up significantly.

Maybe this will help a little bit, Brig. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA&feature=youtu.be

[albrecht]

From 'fake news' sources:
https://www.cyberscoop.com/georgia-hack-dhs-brian-kemp-jeh-johnson/
"Georgia’s secretary of state has claimed the Department of Homeland Security tried to breach his office’s firewall and has issued a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson asking for an explanation."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/election-cyber-security-georgia-

Obama launches inquiry into possible voter hacking.
http://kxan.com/2016/12/09/obama-orders-review-of-election-season-hacking/
"The White House said lawmakers and relevant state officials will be briefed on the report."--> why not release the report, or at least the redacted report, to the voters?