President Donald J. Trump

[Juan]

The problem with citing "scientists" is that many scientists talk about subjects not within their field.  The old joke is that an intellectual is someone who is an expert in one field but who talks endlessly in others.  Paul Ehrlich, for instance, was an expert in butterflies.  Then he stepped outside of his field, wrote The Population Bomb and predicted mass starvation for the mid1970s. He was stunningly wrong.
Tyrants advocate politicizing everything, and now science has been politicized.  Actually it's been religionized. 

[CornyCrow]

The problem with citing "scientists" is that many scientists talk about subjects not within their field.  The old joke is that an intellectual is someone who is an expert in one field but who talks endlessly in others.  Paul Ehrlich, for instance, was an expert in butterflies.  Then he stepped outside of his field, wrote The Population Bomb and predicted mass starvation for the mid1970s. He was stunningly wrong.
Tyrants advocate politicizing everything, and now science has been politicized.  Actually it's been religionized.

Sure, and scientists can be bought off by their colleges getting huge grants for certain study results.  There's all sort of corruption, which is why we are often much better off getting a majority consensus rather than the fluky opinions of stragglers on the edges. 

Individuals can be paid off in some way, but I've not heard of anyone having enough money to buy the majority. 

[The King of Kings]

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/806478228600881152

[21st Century Man]

I mentioned INTERNATIONAL scientists and politicians, not only our domestic guys - or do you REALLY think there is an international conspiracy? 

We are seeing droughts and streams drying up and fires and erratic weather patterns and oceans rising.  Frankly, I would not want to roll the dice on such an issue, in the hopes that just maybe the trifling minority of scientists are correct, as well as the Koch brother propaganda machine.

I think wishful thinking and a wait and see attitude in this case just might be our demise.  Ok, those of us who have stockpiled a certain amount of wealth might just come through and manage to grab what little livable land there is, but poor people the world over are already suffering because of these changes.  It's half a world over and not us, but it's a warning.

I'm talking about scientists throughout the world as well.  As far as droughts and streams drying up.  That has been going on since the beginning of the world.   The climate has always been changing.  I'm sure once upon a time, the Sahara was a far more hospitable place than it is now.  You've really bought into the chicken little fearmongering that people like Gore are pushing.  Sure let's look for ways to minimize our pollution and try to get away from fossil fuels.  However, you also have to remember we have better technologies to make it easier to burn such fuels with minimal pollution.  Instead of reducing our carbon footprint, I think we  should broaden our ambition and reduce our pollution footprint. Real pollution is a greater danger to the Earth and its people than carbon.
The Earth is going to be fine.  There is no point getting caught up in a religious fervor proclaiming doom is on our doorstep.  Barring a nuclear war, we are going to be ok.

[Jackstar]

wEEberJacky!

Fat, drunk & stupid is no way to go through life, Son.

[Jackstar]

As far as droughts and streams drying up.  That has been going on since the beginning of the world.

What's different now?

[Taaroa]

So cute

https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/806392956789882884

[Yorkshire pud]

So cute

https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/806392956789882884

You can't blame them for trying! Enterprisng. 

[ItsOver]

So cute

https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/806392956789882884

"It could be yuge!"

[Yorkshire pud]

"It could be yuge!"

I think that is one of a kind though. 225?

[Yorkshire pud]

Before Trump gets too carried away ( yeah, right) he might like to read this analysis of what he's facing, and the pitfalls.



Trump: Five political minefields facing president-elect

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38227937

[Yorkshire pud]

AF 1: the end of the Trump state visit to Australia, taking off from Canberra. Hold full of his wife and daughter's duty free shopping.

https://youtu.be/ThoZNxy2JZk

[SciFiAuthor]

The problem with citing "scientists" is that many scientists talk about subjects not within their field.  The old joke is that an intellectual is someone who is an expert in one field but who talks endlessly in others.  Paul Ehrlich, for instance, was an expert in butterflies.  Then he stepped outside of his field, wrote The Population Bomb and predicted mass starvation for the mid1970s. He was stunningly wrong.
Tyrants advocate politicizing everything, and now science has been politicized.  Actually it's been religionized.

Ya just had to go and mention Ehrlich and get my blood boiling lol.

I always recommend that to see the aura of BS that surrounds climate science, one only needs to read the scientific papers. If you look at the papers that come out in response to other papers in physics you see a healthy world of professional debate where ideas are bounced around, debunked, lauded etc., in other words everyone knows that what's being presented are theories and ideas, nothing more, and no idea or theory is sacred. Just the opposite. To this day, no one is afraid or gets offended when someone suggests that Albert Einstein might have gotten something wrong. Instead, they get intrigued.

It's the polar opposite within climate science. They *have* a sacred idea, and have proven that science is not immune to group-think by condemning any and all scientific opposition as dangerous. I've even seen venerable scientists like Freeman Dyson get absolutely trashed over the slightest amount of skepticism towards the consensus that's developed within climate science. Um, skepticism is a foundation of good science and should always be the last thing you reject.

I am no denier of climate change. It's changing. I'm also no denier that human activity could be contributing, carbon dioxide is an insulating gas and by raising its levels we will eventually, if we haven't already, cause warming of the atmosphere. That said, there are about 20 or 30 conceptual ways to fix that technologically. From artificial carbon sequestration to raising the earth's albedo, there are no shortage of ways to stop atmospheric warming in its tracks. This will not be what causes the human race's extinction.

But, we're not allowed to talk about those kinds of solutions because the focus has been set by those with political agendas on reducing emissions as the sole method of tackling the problem even though every attempt at reducing emissions thus far has amounted to only token reductions in carbon emissions long-term. It's much the same with alternate energy, green energy people are taught by the pop culture to support things like solar panels, which aren't very green when you dig into how they're manufactured, but protest things like ITER and fusion energy to the point that nuclear scientists are scared to use the word "thermonuclear" in relation to fusion for fear that it will spark a protest movement that might result in politicians defunding the program.

It's time for the politicization of science and the scare tactics used to promote it to end. Science is not religion, and the distinction must be made. Only then can climate change be rationally addressed.

[ItsOver]

I think that is one of a kind though. 225?

Yes, sir.  It's hilarious, though, to visualize a 225 Air Force One customized for the Trumpster.  I can see an interior along these lines.





"Lot's of gold, baby!" 



What was that about Boeing being too expensive? 

[Jackstar]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38227937

pointing to the journalism of Great Britain

[chefist]

So cute

https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/806392956789882884

he he....that's a good sales person!

[ItsOver]

AF 1: the end of the Trump state visit to Australia, taking off from Canberra. Hold full of his wife and daughter's duty free shopping.

https://youtu.be/ThoZNxy2JZk

Ha!  Like watching a blue whale, after an all-you-can-eat buffet, trying to fly.

[Taaroa]

I think that is one of a kind though. 225?

Not quite, there is a second airframe that was never finished and is probably still in their possession.

[SciFiAuthor]

I think that is one of a kind though. 225?

It's the plane without a function. It was designed to ferry the Buran Soviet space shuttle around. Buran is long gone, its hanger collapsed on it years ago and was a total loss. But they're still stuck with the 225 trying to figure out what to use it for lol.

[chefist]

LOLZ...environmental wackos triggered over this one. I love it.

https://twitter.com/verge/status/806607364312932352

[Yorkshire pud]

LOLZ...environmental wackos triggered over this one. I love it.

https://twitter.com/verge/status/806607364312932352

Ivanka won't like that. Not one bit.

[Dr. MD MD]

Before Trump gets too carried away ( yeah, right) he might like to read this analysis of what he's facing, and the pitfalls.



Trump: Five political minefields facing president-elect

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38227937

An analysis from the media who've gotten it consistently wrong. Yeah, he should pay attention to them.  :

[Yorkshire pud]

An analysis from the media who've gotten it consistently wrong. Yeah, he should pay attention to them.  :

Hey sweetcheeks! Where you been? We missed your erudite and reasoned points. Well, Jack has.

[Juan]

Wrasslin' at the SBA

[chefist]

Wrasslin' at the SBA

Lolz saw that too...

[CornyCrow]

I'm talking about scientists throughout the world as well.  As far as droughts and streams drying up.  That has been going on since the beginning of the world.   The climate has always been changing.  I'm sure once upon a time, the Sahara was a far more hospitable place than it is now.  You've really bought into the chicken little fearmongering that people like Gore are pushing.  Sure let's look for ways to minimize our pollution and try to get away from fossil fuels.  However, you also have to remember we have better technologies to make it easier to burn such fuels with minimal pollution.  Instead of reducing our carbon footprint, I think we  should broaden our ambition and reduce our pollution footprint. Real pollution is a greater danger to the Earth and its people than carbon.
The Earth is going to be fine.  There is no point getting caught up in a religious fervor proclaiming doom is on our doorstep.  Barring a nuclear war, we are going to be ok.

You've drank the Kool-Aid.  So, you think the entire world is in on this conspiracy.  Makes no sense.  You're just burying your head in the sand and hoping for the best.  How much have they paid Stephen Hawking?  Or, is he just another mislead scientist? 

[Jackstar]

Or, is he just another mislead scientist?

There are numerous citations from his peers in the time when he could still walk and chew gum that mentioned that they were all somewhat less than blown away by the man's intellect before.

I am sure that Hawking's circumstance gives his intellect a unique edge, but let's not forget, this guy can't figure out...

HAWKING: Women. My PA reminds me that although I have a PhD in physics, women should remain a mystery.

He also thinks that all--all, mind you--extraterrestrial life is coming to destroy us. The guy's a fringe nutter.

[Dr. MD MD]

He also thinks that all--all, mind you--extraterrestrial life is coming to destroy us. The guy's a fringe nutter.

Source?

[Juan]

You've drank the Kool-Aid.  So, you think the entire world is in on this conspiracy.  Makes no sense.  You're just burying your head in the sand and hoping for the best.  How much have they paid Stephen Hawking?  Or, is he just another mislead scientist?

That's exactly what I was talking about.  Stephen Hawking is a physicist.  How is he an expert on climate?

[norland2424]

Source?

http://www.space.com/34184-stephen-hawking-afraid-alien-civilizations.html