President Donald J. Trump

[21st Century Man]

Which is most likely where he'll end up.

I don't dispute that either.

[FightTheFuture]

Wikileaks has revealed that Hillary Clinton was terrified of having ANY OTHER candidate get the GOP nomination....other than Trump. It was a tremendous relief for the Clinton campaign when Trump won the nomination.

Again, thank-you, humpers! You nominated the worst presidential candidate in the history of this Republic!

[theONE]

If you say so Quincy, MD. Glad you finally cracked the case. Now, if you could just figure out how a partial birth abortion like you has managed to live for so many years I'm seeing a possible Nobel in your future. 

hahaha
Top Right Corner

[136 or 142]

I just don't get why they're so fanatical about this?

I can admit I'm not happy about Trump, I think it's pathetic these two are in the elections and I detest Republicans and conservatives. Yet they can't admit a single fault with her or the political establishment in this country. They are daily confronted with evidence of the most insidious political crimes we've whispered about since the beginning of the internet. Yet they can't accept any of it and they're willingly going over the cliff to select that as their future. It's fucking sick.

Look at them run back to their mass media created safe space. Muh Polls.

1.As if you wouldn't post the L.A Times poll if it showed your hero still ahead.

2.Being secretive and accepting campaign donations from people who expect favors in return is actually pretty normal for virtually every politician, there really are no credible allegations against Hillary Clinton other than those.

3.The funny thing is you think you're cynical and smart, but you've really just exposed as an easy mark because you seem to actually believe that Donald Trump cares about people like you and is somehow going to fix the system.  He doesn't care about you (or anybody else except himself) and he has no interest in being President except to further enrich himself.  If he actually had some idea on how to fix the system, he'd tell us about them, unless this is something else that he lies that he needs to keep a secret because he doesn't want to alert the enemy.

[RealCool Daddio]

I don't dispute that.  I said today that he is probably going to lose but he will get far more than 20% of the vote.

I agree, both candidates get about 35% just for showing up - to paraphrase Trump, even shooting someone on camera won't change that fact.  It would seem he successfully fired up that 35% last night, but I don't know there was ever any doubt that they would show up.  They clearly hate Hillary with a deep passion.

The thing is - even more people hate Trump, with the same burning, visceral passion.  I don't see how he did anything at all to change that fact last night, and may well have made it worse by being...himself.

[FightTheFuture]

Donald "Cosby" Trump


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJa-3wjz3ls

[GuerrillaUnReal]

I agree, both candidates get about 35% just for showing up - to paraphrase Trump, even shooting someone on camera won't change that fact.  It would seem he successfully fired up that 35% last night, but I don't know there was ever any doubt that they would show up.  They clearly hate Hillary with a deep passion.

The thing is - even more people hate Trump, with the same burning, visceral passion.  I don't see how he did anything at all to change that fact last night, and may well have made it worse by being...himself.

That same energy did give him the most primary votes in history. I thought he did a good job of reaching out to Bernouts last night and making the allegations him against look ludicrous. The crowd pop he got when he said "I'm a gentleman" was glorious. But opinions and assholes man.

[theONE]

And don't forget the nasty "Arkansas Blood Scandal"

Hypocrisy of some people who give today so much weight to "pussy grabbing" by Trump but many of them didn't give any weight
when they were voting for this 'artist'.

For those of you who are not familiar with this very tragic story please explore and contemplate.

Clinton Involved In Arkansas 'Blood Scandal'

Factor 8: The Arkansas Prison Blood Scandal (2005)
Plot Summary (documentary movie)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0O_MVuYT0A

A shocking expose of a prison blood donor program during the Clinton governorship in Arkansas.
Infected prisoners slipped through the cracks and tainted blood made it into pharmaceuticals sold to patients in Canada, Europe and Asia,
infecting them with the deadly diseases hepatitis C and AIDS.

For more than two decades, the Arkansas prison system sold blood plasma from inmates infected with viral hepatitis and AIDS.
Thousands of unwitting victims who transfused a product called Factor 8 made from this blood died as a result.
Follow along as filmmaker Kelly Duda uncovers a tragedy many consider a crime.

This documentary follows the story of how tainted blood was sold to patients in Canada and other parts of the world while Bill Clinton was governor.
It offers an unsettling look at the complex issues surrounding prison corruption, blood safety and government oversight.
Factor 8 also raises tough questions about public accountability. Did leaders knowingly sell a dangerous product for profit?
Criminal investigations and class-action suits in Canada, Europe and Japan over tainted blood infections underscore the global significance of this issue.
Families are still grieving.
Victims are still dying. Yet while the rest of the world looks to America for answers, the story remains largely untold.
- Written by Kelly Duda

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factor_8:_The_Arkansas_Prison_Blood_Scandal


http://www.rense.com/general68/scadd.htm
Kelly Duda, an Arkansas native, should blow the lid off Clinton's dirty past with his new film.
It should also make the former President's own blood boil, even more than being caught having sex in the White House.

By Greg Szymanski
11-28-5

Ever since Bill Clinton left the White House, he has been "buddy-buddy" with Daddy Bush, the pair appearing at political rallies
and on television like the "Bobbsey Twins."
It's obvious now Clinton is just another neo-con snake in the grass, his so-called "Bridge in the 21st
Century" Presidency used as a diversion but nonetheless used to simply advance the New World Order's horrific agenda.

Recently, Washington D.C. journalist, Jim Tucker, who has written extensively about the New World Order and its ruling group
called The Bilderburg's for over two decades, told the Arctic Beacon Clinton was a guest at a secret Bilderburg meeting
the year before being elected, apparently getting his marching orders and final stamp of approval from the worldwide financiers
who pull the Washington political strings.

Looking back, Clinton turned out to be an integral part of the shadow government's game plan, now forging full-steam ahead after 9/11.
While Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Rove are now grabbing headlines, the truth is finally starting to surface
about Clinton's two-faced Presidency.
One of Clinton's first acts as President in 1993 was to terminate, for no apparent good reason,
a Justice Department investigation into 'Iraq Gate' and "Daddy Bush's" alleged involvement in selling WMD to Iraq.

Remember a book written in 1991 by Deborah Mathis, an obsessive Arkansas journalist who was one of the lone wolves,
allegedly pinning Clinton with complicity to Latin American cocaine transports on U.S. military planes in isolated regions of northwest Arkansas.

Although most journalist's were enamored by the Clinton's charisma, Mathis stuck to her guns, writing the book which also documented
the mysterious deaths of two teen-agers believed to stumble across an Arkansas cocaine drop.
But Mathis' allegation and persistence concerning Clinton's dirty past was little match for the supportive nature of most of the media,
many of whom couldn't see past their noses when it came to Clinton's dirty past as Arkansas Governor.

And now surfacing in a long overdue documentary seven years in the making, the real truth about the Clinton's disgusting past
should finally blow the lid off what remains of his clean image and probably make his Arkansas blood boil like never before.
The documentary called "Factor 8: The Arkansas Prison Blood Scandal," written and produced by Arkansas native Kelly Duda,
made it's debut two weeks ago at the prestigious American Film Festival Institute.
Duda's documentary deals with fresh evidence about the Arkansas prison blood scandal where officials knowingly sold AIDS tainted blood
for a huge profit, then deliberately shipped to thousands in Europe and Canada who unknowingly contracted AIDS and hepatitis.

Duda's documentary shows how senior officials in the Arkansas prison system paid inmates to donate AIDS tainted blood
while at the same time altering prisoner medical records to make it look like they were not carrying the deadly virus.
The filmmaker said he made an attempt to tie Clinton to the prison blood racket, but was thwarted and stopped every step
of the way when he tried to unseal old Arkansas state records.

"When I went looking for Clinton's governor papers relevant to the blood investigation, I was told that 4,000 boxes had been hidden away.
In private storage and couldn't be located," said Duda in a recent interview prior to the film festival release.
"When I went to the Arkansas State Health Department to request records regarding disease rates at the prison and anything
about the plasma program, I was stonewalled.

"I actually had to sue the state agency just to get access to its files that by law are supposed to be a matter of public record.
When I went to the Arkansas State Police Headquarters, key documents had disappeared. When complete strangers showed up
out of the blue asking me what I was doing and with whom did I work for, I had to ask myself, 'What's going on here?'"

Duda was first made aware of Clinton's involvement in the scandal based on various news reports in the early 90's,
reporting Clinton while governor of Arkansas in the 1980s being at the center of the AIDS tainted blood scandal.

While governor, he awarded a contract to Health Management Associates, a company involved in the scandal that
provided medical care to state prisoners. News reports also uncovered the president of the company was a long-time Clinton friend
and confidant, later appointed to a cushy political position on the Arkansas Industrial Development Commission
and a member of his 1990 statewide election team.

Clinton was then tied to knowing about the blood scandal when Michael Galster, who treated Arkansas inmates,
said he had personal knowledge of Health Management official's knowingly selling tainted blood for profit to a number of foreign countries,
as well as personal knowledge that Clinton was aware of the scam and profited financially.

An old article, written in Salon.com, described in detail the specifics behind the inner-workings of the Arkansas scandal:
"At the Cummins Unit of the Arkansas penal system during the 1980s, while President Clinton was still governor,
inmates would regularly cross the prison hospital's threshold to give blood, lured by the prospect of receiving $7 a pint.

"The ritual was creepy to behold: Platoons of prisoners lying supine on rows of cots, waiting for the needle-wielding prisoner orderly
to puncture a vein and watch the clear bags fill with blood.
Administrators than sold the blood to brokers, who in turned shipped it to other sates and to Japan, Italy, Spain and Canada.

"Despite repeated warnings from the Food and Drug Administration, Arkansas kept its prison plasma program running until 1994
when it became the very last state to cease selling its prisoners' plasma."
Throughout the seven year process of making the documentary, Duda claims his life had been threatened on numerous occasions being,
as well as being followed, warned to lay-off the project, hauled into court, burglarized and having his car tires slashed.

Regarding the making of the controversial document, he added:
"Prior to the making of Factor 8, I never considered myself an investigative journalist. In fact,
I had never written a newspaper article before in my life. I was an aspiring filmmaker who had a story thrown into his lap.

"Actually, it wasn't even a story at the time but a series of events that allegedly took place in my home state in the 1980s.
It was a tale I didn't want to tell, but the more I looked into it, the more I found.
It didn't take long before I realized that regardless of the cost and sacrifice, the story you're about to see which is a complicated one had to be told.
There where quite literally lives at stake. I felt a moral responsibility, a civic duty to do something."

During the making of the film, Duda interviewed prison officials, high-ranking Arkansas figures, foreign victims,
former employees and inmate blood donors.
The film debuted at the prestigious film festival two weeks ago, but was actually delayed for two years after its premier
was blocked by a Park City, Utah, federal judge right before it was set to open in 2004.

[136 or 142]

That same energy did give him the most primary votes in history. I thought he did a good job of reaching out to Bernouts last night and making the allegations him against look ludicrous. The crowd pop he got when he said "I'm a gentleman" was glorious. But opinions and assholes man.

1.He got the most Republican primary votes.  He's about 3.5 million short of the votes Obama received in 2008.

2.The crowd laughed at him over some idiotic thing he said as well.  There were a lot of partisans in the crowd.

[onan]

Now THAT is wishful thinking.  He's polling between 35%- 40% as it is now.

I won't shy away from not wanting any part of Trump as president. But I do think 538 gets it right a good deal more often than not.

[onan]

And don't forget the nasty "Arkansas Blood Scandal"

How come you never mention the Red Cross and Liddy?

[theONE]

Basically he stated he'd be accuser, judge, jury and jailer? Not totalitarian dictator then? Stalin, Saddam Hussain, any number of other despots had/ have a similar philosophy. Be careful what you wish for bubba.

What's wrong with your brain.
Is that grey pudding mass between your ears is turning into a calcified mass of gelatin.

Trump said that he will appoint a special prosecutor to deal with Hillary,here is his quote:
"I didn’t think I’d say this and I’m going to say it and I hate to say it. … If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general
to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation because there has never been so many lies, so much deception," Trump said.

So your comment is a sign of a senile dementia settling inside your scull Yorkshire pud

se·nile de·men·tia
noun
severe mental deterioration in old age, characterized by loss of memory and control of bodily functions.

[SciFiAuthor]

I just don't get why they're so fanatical about this?

It's because people, in general, hate reevaluating their own politics. Politics and religion are the two areas in life where people tend to believe that their own thinking is unequivocally correct and everyone else is wrong if they don't agree. Why it's those two specific subjects, I have no idea. Maybe it's because subconsciously people realize that those are two areas where one is *always* on shaky ground, so they consciously react by pouring concrete.

I can admit I'm not happy about Trump, I think it's pathetic these two are in the elections and I detest Republicans and conservatives. Yet they can't admit a single fault with her or the political establishment in this country. They are daily confronted with evidence of the most insidious political crimes we've whispered about since the beginning of the internet. Yet they can't accept any of it and they're willingly going over the cliff to select that as their future. It's fucking sick.

It's just conditioning. They can't process that an establishment can create a narrative and sell it for decades for the benefit of people with political careers and then all of a sudden it can go into the toilet when reality asserts. People don't like to be shown that they are wrong and that's really what this election is about.

The Republican establishment shattered during the primaries. The "conservatives" now realize that all that narrative shit about free trade is good and abortion is bad and all the other wedge issues their bullshit artist politicians used to get elected but never did anything about was false. As a result they're in "does not compute" mode not realizing that their fake, contrived narrative-based ideology wasn't solid.

The Democratic establishment is next. It will shatter during Hillary's presidency and no amount of putting one's hands over their ears and yelling in order to avoid the bad stuff will help. They know she's a disaster, that's why they've been lashing out here on bellgab all morning, but it doesn't matter. It only matters that they can continue to delude themselves into thinking they are right for as long as possible.

In short, the Democrats and Republicans are obsolete. If the parties implode, which has happened in the past to political parties in the US, then we can reorder things and survive. If they don't implode and blind support of establishments continues, then we're sunk.

Look at them run back to their mass media created safe space. Muh Polls.

That's the one that scares me. There is no such thing as a safe space and the media has too much power over the narrative. People are far too comfortable these days, they expect stability and safety forever and no longer expect to be confronted with reality. This is actually true of both sides. We're becoming a snowflake society, as you yourself point out. Fragility means easily broken.

[theONE]

How come you never mention the Red Cross and Liddy?

Yes there is way more 'chain' events from it.
That tinted blood was declared as "illegal" to be used in the USA but was sold to many countries all over the world.
Many thousands of people died directly from it.


quote from this web site:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/clinton-scandal-you-may-not-have-heard-of-arkansas-prison-blood-scandal-cummins-state-prison-was-knowingly-harvesting-hiv-and-hep-c-tainted-blood-from-prisoners-for-international-export-by-hma/

Clinton scandal you may not have heard of, “Arkansas Prison Blood Scandal” â€" Cummins State Prison was knowingly
harvesting HIV and Hep C tainted blood from prisoners for international export by HMA, run by Clinton crony
Submitted by IWB, on May 18th, 2016
This story is absolutely incredible. Kind of a holy shit moment for me.
Arkansas was the origin of the Bayer/Baxter HIV/Hep C infected blood conspiracy, and it was by Clinton’s friends.

I found out about this “Arkansas Prison Scandal” while reading Edward Klein’s book, “The Truth about Hillary”, that I found at a thrift store for a dollar.
Here’s an illuminating excerpt from page 22:
/book quote:/
"One of the worst messes involved the notorious Arkansas penal system, which had awarded a lucrative contract to
Health Management Associates (HMA), a company run by Leonard Dunn, a Clinton crony.

When Michael Galster, who held an orthopedic clinic in Cummins state prison once every two weeks,
discovered that HMA was harvesting tainted blood from prison inmates by paying them $7 a pint, he threatened to blow the whistle.
He was prepared to testify that the blood, some of which was infected with Hepatitis C and the HIV virus,
was being sold with the knowledge of prison authorities and Governor Clinton to brokers,
who in turn shipped it to several foreign countries, including Canada.[1]

“Vince Foster was then-Governor Clinton’s liaison on prison issues”, Galster told the author of this book.
“One day, Foster came to visit me at my office in Pine Bluff. One of the prisoners was threatening to sue HMA over a non-blood issue,
and Vince wanted me to get involved and convince the prisoner not to sue. bot those HMA doctors were hacks, and I refused to get involved.”[1]

“Vince started bullying me,” Galster went on. “He said, ‘You know what your noncooperation means as far as the state’s renewing
your othopedic contract, don’t you, Mike?’

“And I said, ‘Yes, I know what you’re talking about.’ And he said, ‘It’s going to be hard for you to maintain your contract with the prison system.’
And I said, ‘I know.’ And he said, ‘I just want to make sure you know how things work.’ And, sure enough, they fired me.
And knowing how close Hillary was to Vince, I never had any doubt that she knew all about it.”[1]

After he came to Washington, Vince fell into a suicidal depression once he realized that Hillary, as First Lady, could no longer
be his intimate friendâ€"and that he, in turn, could no longer protect her from scandal and her flagrant disregord for the law. He was right.
The night of his death, Hillary launched one of the most shamefulâ€"and illegalâ€"cover-ups of her entire career.

She sent two of her most trusted White House loyalistsâ€"Maggie Williams, the First Lady’s chief of staff, and Patsy Thomasson,
who was in charge of White House administrationâ€"into Foster’s office to retrieve embarrassing and incriminating documents
related to Whitewater and Hillary’s other personal affairs.
While White House Counsel Bernaer Nussbaum barred investigators from entering Foster’s office, Maggie Williams,
Patsy Thomasson, and Craig Livingston, Hillary’s director of White House security, removed armloads of files and loose-leaf binders.[2]
/end of quote/


It is very possible that Hillary was very aware of that tinted blood scum and if questioned today about it she might get shocked reaction on her face
that people digged out that story and her reactions and answers might be very telling....

I wish someone would question her about it and spread this on the social media for people to learn of yet another tragedy Clinton's were involved in, directly or indirectly
but they were involved in it.
They have tinted blood on their hands and lives of thousand's of people who died because of that blood....

[Jackstar]

the worst presidential candidate in the history of this Republic!

[CornyCrow]

Did anyone see Nate Silver's latest call? 

[theONE]

You don't know what you're missing.  LOL.  Seriously though, I think that is how David Carradine ended up dead.

You write some fine erotica, dude.  You should start a thread.

LOL , the only thing that stops me is to come up with the thread title

I was thinking: "BellGab fapping"
But not sure if that will ring the bell enough for people to read it

[Zetaspeak]

Pre debate polls
Jeff Gauvin ‏@JeffersonObama  8m8 minutes ago
POLLS 10/10 12PM
■NBC/WSJ: CLINTON +14
■NOLA: CLINTON +10
■RASMUSSEN: CLINTON +7
■QUIN: C+6
■PRRI: C+6
■REUT: C+7
■FDUP: C+9
■UPI: C+6

That is amazing, especially the Rasmussen & UPI numbers as they were this entire election about a 5% curve towards Trump vs. the average. Didn't on  Saturday every Trump supporters were claiming that the P-tape had no effect on polls? Which of course it silly to make any prediction just 24 hours after an event as it takes a few days to get an accurate reading on any event.

There is some serious delusion that going on with Trump supporters, from the horrible first debate and instead of focusing on the problem they try to make themselves feel better by flooding online polls and than bragging about online poll victories, which in turn did nothing for them in the REAL election race.

So here is the second debate and once again claim victory, flood online polls and have their leader tweeting about how great he did on online polls, like we DIDN"T just live through that 2 weeks ago when Trump one online polls but lost 3% on the national polls and about 16% on the betting lines.

Speaking of betting lines, after the debate not much changed on the betting lines I looked at, Maybe a percentage or two, but certainly not enough to change the neddle especially considering how low Trump was going into the debate. 

[Value Of Pi]

Amazing how many people here don't understand that any president (particularly guys like Nixon or, potentially, Trump) instructing their AG to investigate and try to jail political opponents would be grossly exceeding their authority and committing an impeachable offense.

They worry about black helicopters or a dictatorial world government, but when they meet the guy who wants to run the North American division (the way Putin would like to run Europe), they say "Right on, baby!" Then they go vote for him.

Knock, knock. There are some guys with guns at the door and they're looking for you -- baby.

[21st Century Man]

I do worry that Trump could become dictatorial but in some ways we are already living under a soft dictatorship and Hillary will be more of the same so I'll take a chance even though I might regret it later.

[albrecht]

Yes there is way more 'chain' events from it.
That tinted blood was declared as "illegal" to be used in the USA but was sold to many countries all over the world.
Many thousands of people died directly from it.


quote from this web site:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/clinton-scandal-you-may-not-have-heard-of-arkansas-prison-blood-scandal-cummins-state-prison-was-knowingly-harvesting-hiv-and-hep-c-tainted-blood-from-prisoners-for-international-export-by-hma/



I wish someone would question her about it and spread this on the social media for people to learn of yet another tragedy Clinton's were involved in, directly or indirectly
but they were involved in it.
They have tinted blood on their hands and lives of thousand's of people who died because of that blood....

There was a documentary called "Factor 8" but it is almost impossible to find. There also were some protests in Britain and Canada because those places bought the infected blood, and people were infected, from the blood that Clinton allowed his pals to sell on the global market.
In keeping with Clinton tradition the files in the UK were "destroyed" in a "regrettable" accident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4608134.stm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0782849/

[Value Of Pi]

I do worry that Trump could become dictatorial but in some ways we are already living under a soft dictatorship and Hillary will be more of the same so I'll take a chance even though I might regret it later.

What we have now would become "the good old days." Are you ready for that?

[21st Century Man]

What we have now would become "the good old days." Are you ready for that?

Our country is going to shit and changes need to be made.  We can't keep going as we are.  The border needs to be secured. Our country can't take another decade of illegal immigration and a 40 trillion dollar national debt.  Business as usual is not an option at all.

[theONE]

There was a documentary called "Factor 8" but it is almost impossible to find. There also were some protests in Britain and Canada because those places bought the infected blood, and people were infected, from the blood that Clinton allowed his pals to sell on the global market.
In keeping with Clinton tradition the files in the UK were "destroyed" in a "regrettable" accident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4608134.stm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0782849/

I guess you miss my post few posts ago where I posted link to it... 

look at this post of mine, link to that movie is there:

And don't forget the nasty "Arkansas Blood Scandal"

[theONE]

There was a documentary called "Factor 8" but it is almost impossible to find. There also were some protests in Britain and Canada because those places bought the infected blood, and people were infected, from the blood that Clinton allowed his pals to sell on the global market.
In keeping with Clinton tradition the files in the UK were "destroyed" in a "regrettable" accident.
X===> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4608134.stm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0782849/

I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED if Clintons applied pressure on UK and arrange for destruction of those documents.
I would love to hear Trump bringing this blood scandal up in next debate and ask Hillary what she knew about it, and was she in any way
involved in cover up.
Would pay big money to watch her facial expressions answering those questions.

[theONE]

There was a documentary called "Factor 8" but it is almost impossible to find. There also were some protests in Britain and Canada because those places bought the infected blood, and people were infected, from the blood that Clinton allowed his pals to sell on the global market.
In keeping with Clinton tradition the files in the UK were "destroyed" in a "regrettable" accident.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4608134.stm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0782849/

Yes, Britain, Canada and Japan as well, and some other countries were sold that "clinton's tinted blood"

[albrecht]

What we have now would become "the good old days." Are you ready for that?

Yes. Especially, compared to the situation today and what the future holds under an open-border, riots in the streets, crime spikes, racial and class division and violence, bankruptcies, attacks on police, gun grabs, failed schools, more white and rich "flight" from cities and areas, unelected international bodies over-turning our laws and regulations, and radical Muslims, claiming to be "refugees" bent on terrorism and rape to be imported over here and given government aid and housing.

[albrecht]

I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED if Clintons applied pressure on UK and arrange for destruction of those documents.
I would love to hear Trump bringing this blood scandal up in next debate and ask Hillary what she knew about it, and was she in any way
involved in cover up.
Would pay big money to watch her facial expressions answering those questions.

Nobody ever brings it up and the acclaimed documentary is very hard to find. Trump should pay for the rights and release it to the public or show for free on youtube etc. But the scandal shows how craven and evil the Clintons are. Taking infected plasma from prisoners and allowing it to be sold to other people, thereby infecting them? Talk about a vampire or something evil.

[Dr. MD MD]

I won't shy away from not wanting any part of Trump as president. But I do think 538 gets it right a good deal more often than not.

Alright then but at least try to sell me on why you think Hillary would make a good president? Honestly, I'd like to know what you see in her other than she's not Trump. Maybe I'm missing something about her.

[Value Of Pi]

Our country is going to shit and changes need to be made.  We can't keep going as we are.  The border needs to be secured. Our country can't take another decade of illegal immigration and a 40 trillion dollar national debt.  Business as usual is not an option at all.

This is the election that might have changed the status quo, but it won't because of the will of millions of Republican primary voters and the brain drain in today's politics. The needed agent of positive change wasn't even in the race -- and I include Sanders here, who positioned himself this way (unlike wrecking-ball Trump).

Still, things are not as dire as you make them out to be. I see you being comfortably retired but still posting on a future BellGab that disaster is just around the corner.