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3OctaveFart

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 26, 2018, 03:31:34 PM
If you were a non partisan, why would you care if I voted for Reagan?  Christ, are you transparent.
Some of us had the character to make a choice rather than abstain and whine incessantly about the results.  Why don’t you tell us how much better off the country would now be if Hilliary were elected.
You chose between bone and colon cancer. Either one's eventually going to kill you, with varying agonies.

I abstained from the choice. You chose the American Nero. Don't think people will forget it either, as you failed the greatest test of your civil life.

Assuming that all the monkeying around with the election had no effect on the congressional races, Mrs. Clinton would have been impeached, or at best, a one-termer.

We would have been rid of the two of these terrible candidates, the decks cleared for 2020. A good flush was all that ever was needed.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: 3OctaveFart on January 26, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
You chose between bone and colon cancer. Either one's eventually going to kill you, with varying agonies.

I abstained from the choice. You chose the American Nero. Don't think people will forget it either, as you failed the greatest test of your civil life.

Assuming that all the monkeying around with the election had no effect on the congressional races, Mrs. Clinton would have been impeached, or at best, a one-termer.

We would have been rid of the two of these terrible candidates, the decks cleared for 2020. A good flush was all that ever was needed.

You must be kdding.   If Hilliary was elected there would be no investigation and the corruption would have never been revealed.   That was the assumption of all who participated in the whitewash of Hilliary’s many crimes, the development of a bullshit dossier to use as probable cause for spying on Trump and the lies and manipulations that led to the appointment of a special prosecutor who himself was involved in the perversion of justice to benefit of Clinton and Obama.

Your ignorance of the facts is stunning as is your preposturas rationalization for abdicating your responsibility as a citizen.  The American Nero that you so detest is doing what he was elected  to do and the average American is better off than he was a year ago by every measure.  Trump will be elected for a second term and all who participated in the conspiracy to exonerate Hilliary and prevent Trump from being elected and later to unseat him will be held accountable.  No doubt when that happens you will still be the nihilistic cynical cop-out that you are and still be lurking on the edges. 


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 3OctaveFart on January 26, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
You chose between bone and colon cancer. Either one's eventually going to kill you, with varying agonies.

I abstained from the choice. You chose the American Nero. Don't think people will forget it either, as you failed the greatest test of your civil life.

Assuming that all the monkeying around with the election had no effect on the congressional races, Mrs. Clinton would have been impeached, or at best, a one-termer.

We would have been rid of the two of these terrible candidates, the decks cleared for 2020. A good flush was all that ever was needed.


You're slowly suffocating from having your head so far up your ass.

GravitySucks

The Senate has made a formal request to Podesta about what he and Hillary knew about the dossier

https://www.scribd.com/document/370089125/Chuck-Grassley-Letter-to-John-Podesta

Up All Night

Regarding "Dreamers", when asked who should be deported, Sheriff Joe's answer was....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBKXu3Kg4yg
;D


"A lot of these Dreamers have a good education and all that and they can go into [their home] country and be ambassadors and talk how great America is and also see their country. And maybe some of them don’t want to come back -- who knows, if they get a big job -- but if they want to come back ,let them come back like everybody else, and let them come into our country and do what everybody else does that comes into our country, with a green card," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sheriff-joe-arpaio-details-plan-dreamers-deport/story?id=52640992

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Gd5150 on January 26, 2018, 03:08:55 PM
Oh boy another dumbfuck cliche leftwinger:


You are such a pussy.  Have you got a wet twat between your legs?  Trump dialed it back so far at Davos.  Plus he sounded like a robot.  It probably was a stunt double who could read a teleprompter.

PaulAtreides

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 26, 2018, 03:12:17 PM
Have you ever knowingly had a conversation with anyone without you coming across as a thoroughly obnoxious and utterly disagreeable insecure little shit?

He's the only boy at his high school who hasn't been laid yet.  It's damaged his psyche.



analog kid

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2018, 09:47:38 PM

You're slowly suffocating from having your head so far up your ass.


SredniVashtar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 26, 2018, 09:21:46 PM
You must be kdding.   If Hilliary was elected there would be no investigation and the corruption would have never been revealed.   That was the assumption of all who participated in the whitewash of Hilliary’s many crimes, the development of a bullshit dossier to use as probable cause for spying on Trump and the lies and manipulations that led to the appointment of a special prosecutor who himself was involved in the perversion of justice to benefit of Clinton and Obama.

Your ignorance of the facts is stunning as is your preposturas rationalization for abdicating your responsibility as a citizen.  The American Nero that you so detest is doing what he was elected  to do and the average American is better off than he was a year ago by every measure.  Trump will be elected for a second term and all who participated in the conspiracy to exonerate Hilliary and prevent Trump from being elected and later to unseat him will be held accountable.  No doubt when that happens you will still be the nihilistic cynical cop-out that you are and still be lurking on the edges.

There will never be any prosecution of Hillary. For the simple reason that it sets a bad precedent, and nobody in power wants to think they will be gone after once out of office. Assuming Trump isn't dragged out in cuffs by then anyway. Hillary is much more useful where she is, giving the baying mob something to howl at.

This supposed bullshit dossier gains credibility by the day. Even the racier stuff becomes more plausible now we see this alleged germaphobe likes to boff professional skanks. And Trump was the one who brought on the Special Prosecutor by firing Comey, as is repeatedly pointed out to you. And only someone in the grip of terminal hysteria could portray Mueller as Che Guevara.

I don't think you realise how robotic you sound (although a robot would have better spelling). I never read an original thought, it's all slight variations on a handful of themes. Reading all these comments makes me realise how tenuous democracy really is, because you are willing to toss out nearly everything just for the sake of short-term political advantage.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 27, 2018, 04:48:56 AM
There will never be any prosecution of Hillary. For the simple reason that it sets a bad precedent, and nobody in power wants to think they will be gone after once out of office. Assuming Trump isn't dragged out in cuffs by then anyway. Hillary is much more useful where she is, giving the baying mob something to howl at.

This supposed bullshit dossier gains credibility by the day. Even the racier stuff becomes more plausible now we see this alleged germaphobe likes to boff professional skanks. And Trump was the one who brought on the Special Prosecutor by firing Comey, as is repeatedly pointed out to you. And only someone in the grip of terminal hysteria could portray Mueller as Che Guevara.

I don't think you realise how robotic you sound (although a robot would have better spelling). I never read an original thought, it's all slight variations on a handful of themes. Reading all these comments makes me realise how tenuous democracy really is, because you are willing to toss out nearly everything just for the sake of short-term political advantage.

FYI,  the United States is a republic not a democracy.

“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams

“Well, Doctor, what have we gotâ€"a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.” - Ben Franklin.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 27, 2018, 04:48:56 AM
There will never be any prosecution of Hillary. For the simple reason that it sets a bad precedent, and nobody in power wants to think they will be gone after once out of office. Assuming Trump isn't dragged out in cuffs by then anyway. Hillary is much more useful where she is, giving the baying mob something to howl at.

This supposed bullshit dossier gains credibility by the day. Even the racier stuff becomes more plausible now we see this alleged germaphobe likes to boff professional skanks. And Trump was the one who brought on the Special Prosecutor by firing Comey, as is repeatedly pointed out to you. And only someone in the grip of terminal hysteria could portray Mueller as Che Guevara.

I don't think you realise how robotic you sound (although a robot would have better spelling). I never read an original thought, it's all slight variations on a handful of themes. Reading all these comments makes me realise how tenuous democracy really is, because you are willing to toss out nearly everything just for the sake of short-term political advantage.

You really don’t keep up with events do you.

A. Bullshit.  Several cabinet level officials have been indicted in recent times and Hilliary will be the next.

B.  Au contraire.   The dossier has lost all credibility in light the Strzok-Page texts and Ohr and his wife conspiring with Fusion GPS.  Even the MSM is backing off from it.

C.  Fuck ewe and your cheap shots.

D.  Sure, it’s a well known fact that holding the rich and powerful accountable for their crimes is a threat to democracy.  Equal justice under the law is a very dangerous thing.  All  those involved in the criminal conspiracy to exonerate Clinton and discredit and defeat Trump should be promoted. 


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 27, 2018, 06:38:41 AM
FYI,  the United States is a republic not a democracy.

“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams

“Well, Doctor, what have we gotâ€"a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.” - Ben Franklin.

For now; Trump would love it if he was the monarch. It runs on democratic (small d) principles though-to an extent.

Jackstar


Jackstar

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 27, 2018, 04:48:56 AM
This supposed bullshit dossier gains credibility by the day.

Your inane stupidity has reached a new low.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 27, 2018, 06:38:53 AM
You really don’t keep up with events do you.

A. Bullshit.  Several cabinet level officials have been indicted in recent times and Hilliary will be the next.

B.  Au contraire  The dossier has lost all credibility in light the Strzok-Page texts and Ohr and his wife’s conspiring with Fusion GPS.  Even the MSM is backing off from it.

C.  Fuck ewe and your cheap shots.

D.  Sure, it’s a well known fact that holding the rich and powerful accountable for their crimes is a threat to democracy.  Equal justice under the law is a very dangerous thing.

Do you mean, do I keep my face pressed against the TV screen counting Hannity's nose hairs? The answer is no.

A. It ain't gonna happen. And you'll have to cite some info on that one.

B. What? The 'Secret Society'?  :-* Only someone in the grip of mania could read a plot into those texts, so of course you fall for it.

C. That's why you're not allowed near farms any more.

D. Equal justice? Unless it's one of your crew, when you bend over backwards (not you specifically, I know you couldn't get back up again) to exculpate them.

Jackstar

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 27, 2018, 06:55:30 AM
Only someone in the grip of mania could read a plot into those texts

Is that how they were fired? By someone in the grip of mania? Tell us more about how you know how it went down.


SredniVashtar

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 27, 2018, 06:38:41 AM
FYI,  the United States is a republic not a democracy.

“I do not say that democracy has been more pernicious on the whole, and in the long run, than monarchy or aristocracy. Democracy has never been and never can be so durable as aristocracy or monarchy; but while it lasts, it is more bloody than either. … Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - John Adams

“Well, Doctor, what have we gotâ€"a Republic or a Monarchy?”

  “A Republic, if you can keep it.” - Ben Franklin.

Yeah, that's the first time I've ever heard that one from someone trying to score a cheap debating point. You know what I mean. And if you don't it would be a waste of time explaining.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 27, 2018, 06:55:30 AM
Do you mean, do I keep my face pressed against the TV screen counting Hannity's nose hairs? The answer is no.

A. It ain't gonna happen. And you'll have to cite some info on that one.

B. What? The 'Secret Society'?  :-* Only someone in the grip of mania could read a plot into those texts, so of course you fall for it.

C. That's why you're not allowed near farms any more.

D. Equal justice? Unless it's one of your crew, when you bend over backwards (not you specifically, I know you couldn't get back up again) to exculpate them.

A.  Just off the top of my head Vice President Spiro Agnew, Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butts and Casper Weinberger Secretary of Defense.  There are others but I have some chores to do so do your own homework. 

Yorkshire pud

Sigh:  ::)

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 27, 2018, 06:38:53 AM
You really don’t keep up with events do you.

A. Bullshit.  Several cabinet level officials have been indicted in recent times and Hilliary will be the next.

No she won't. The GOP spent millions on trying to find shit on her and her husband, nothing. And who has been indicted in the cabinet? Flynn (ex NSA) has, but you didn't mean him did you?

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B.  Au contraire  The dossier has lost all credibility in light the Strzok-Page texts and Ohr and his wife’s conspiring with Fusion GPS.  Even the MSM is backing off from it.

Okay okay...let's not mix stuff up and throw in ridiculous non sequiturs shall we? The 'dossier' was initially commisioned by Trump's rivals before the primaries. It was done to find shit on Clinton and on Trump by his GOP rivals.. After he won the primary the funding was taken over by the Dems. The commisioning company sub contracted Christopher Steele, ex MI6 and the guy who found enough evidence to launch the conspiracy indictments on the FIFA officials who were arrested by the FBI..
He had a very good reputation because of his years in the service and his ability to uncover information. The press sat on the knowledge the information he discovered existed let alone what it contained until after the election. Then and only then because Buzz feed released it so there was no point sitting on it any longer. The CIA have said that it only confirmed what they already knew. It must have some legs because two Russian cyber officials have gone missing since it was released, one being literally hooded and dragged out of a meeting in Moscow. To say it has no credibility is nonsense.Simpson, the boss of the firm was questioned for over 20 hours about it. The GOP members on the committee were very selective on what they made public, which is why Feinstein released the lot to put it in context...Read it yourself over a coffee..https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/3/9/3974a291-ddbe-4525-9ed1-22bab43c05ae/934A3562824CACA7BB4D915E97709D2F.simpson-transcript-redacted.pdf

Strzok-Page texts: Two FBI employees had an affair and texted. They also texted criticism of Clinton, her husband and daughter Chelsea, Bernie Sanders, both Dem and Rep candidates and pretty much anyone else they wanted to dig at. The GOP are again very selective on what they bitch about. As soon as Mueller found out (about 45 days after he was appointed by Trump appointed Rod Rosenstein) he took Storzok off the case. Page had already moved on to other duties several weeks before. Is the suggestion that all FBI employees must have no political affiliations? Would the GOP be as apoplectic if they did an investigation on Clinton and found disparaging texts about Clinton in the texts of two FBI agents having an affair? Somehow I doubt it. As for the missing texts, they've been recovered; As too have the many thousands that many thousands of other FBI agents had lost due to the changing of official smart phones. Again, the GOP 'forget' to mention that it wasn't just those two it had affected. Hannity is the Trump mouthpiece/feeder, you really shouldn't take what he says as the full story. As for the laughable 'secret society'...Yeah sure, because its well known secret societies are mentioned by the members, unless wait!! The classic double double bluff, or something.

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C.  Fuck ewe and your cheap shots.

Such as posting photos and making 'cheap' remarks about the physical appearance of Page you mean?

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D.  Sure, it’s a well known fact that holding the rich and powerful accountable for their crimes is a threat to democracy.  Equal justice under the law is a very dangerous thing.

Then Trump will have no difficulty in not trying to hamper Mueller will he? I wonder how he will respond to the question; Mueller: "Tell me Mr President, did you instruct the WH lawyer Mr McGhan to instruct DAG Mr Rosenstein to fire me last June?"

Trump has two possibilities. Say no and perjure himself or say yes and put himself in very grave danger of admitting to attempting to interfere with an investigation of which he is the principal subject. He could of course plead the fifth, but that would be political suicide. He can't in all seriousness say he can't remember because in his own modest estimation he has the best memory in the world.

Edit: I will add that its frightening that there is no move by the GOP to investigate or counter the fact that the Russians did and continue to attack the west and particularly the USA by cyber attacks. Nothing. How is it almost all European governments are taking it seriously but the GOP isn't? When do they see it as a problem?

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Jackstar on January 27, 2018, 06:57:28 AM
Is that how they were fired? By someone in the grip of mania? Tell us more about how you know how it went down.

They were fired, O wise one, because the investigation has to be above suspicion, like Caesar's wife. So anything that looked even slightly odd had to be rooted out.

Jackstar

So you agree that it looks odd.

I guess you're in the grip of mania.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on January 27, 2018, 06:57:28 AM
Is that how they were fired? By someone in the grip of mania? Tell us more about how you know how it went down.

Presumably you've more of a direct knowledge,, does it have anything to do with JFK and chemtrails?

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Jackstar on January 27, 2018, 07:22:49 AM
So you agree that it looks odd.

I was going to say 'ambiguous', but wanted to save you the trip to find a dictionary.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on January 27, 2018, 07:13:53 AM
A.  Just off the top of my head Vice President Spiro Agnew, Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butts and Casper Weinberger Secretary of Defense.  There are others but I have some chores to do so do your own homework.

You call those 'recent'? Seriously, you're shoe-horning in Spiro Agnew now and think you ought to be taken seriously?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on January 27, 2018, 07:17:49 AM
Sigh:  ::)

No she won't. The GOP spent millions on trying to find shit on her and her husband, nothing. And who has been indicted in the cabinet? Flynn (ex NSA) has, but you didn't mean him did you?

Okay okay...let's not mix stuff up and throw in ridiculous non sequiturs shall we? The 'dossier' was initially commisioned by Trump's rivals before the primaries. It was done to find shit on Clinton and on Trump by his GOP rivals.. After he won the primary the funding was taken over by the Dems. The commisioning company sub contracted Christopher Steele, ex MI6 and the guy who found enough evidence to launch the conspiracy indictments on the FIFA officials who were arrested by the FBI..
He had a very good reputation because of his years in the service and his ability to uncover information. The press sat on the knowledge the information he discovered existed let alone what it contained until after the election. Then and only then because Buzz feed released it so there was no point sitting on it any longer. The CIA have said that it only confirmed what they already knew. It must have some legs because two Russian cyber officials have gone missing since it was released, one being literally hooded and dragged out of a meeting in Moscow. To say it has no credibility is nonsense.Simpson, the boss of the firm was questioned for over 20 hours about it. The GOP members on the committee were very selective on what they made public, which is why Feinstein released the lot to put it in context...Read it yourself over a coffee..https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/3/9/3974a291-ddbe-4525-9ed1-22bab43c05ae/934A3562824CACA7BB4D915E97709D2F.simpson-transcript-redacted.pdf

Strzok-Page texts: Two FBI employees had an affair and texted. They also texted criticism of Clinton, her husband and daughter Chelsea, Bernie Sanders, both Dem and Rep candidates and pretty much anyone else they wanted to dig at. The GOP are again very selective on what they bitch about. As soon as Mueller found out (about 45 days after he was appointed by Trump appointed Rod Rosenstein) he took Storzok off the case. Page had already moved on to other duties several weeks before. Is the suggestion that all FBI employees must have no political affiliations? Would the GOP be as apoplectic if they did an investigation on Clinton and found disparaging texts about Clinton in the texts of two FBI agents having an affair? Somehow I doubt it. As for the missing texts, they've been recovered; As too have the many thousands that many thousands of other FBI agents had lost due to the changing of official smart phones. Again, the GOP 'forget' to mention that it wasn't just those two it had affected. Hannity is the Trump mouthpiece/feeder, you really shouldn't take what he says as the full story. As for the laughable 'secret society'...Yeah sure, because its well known secret societies are mentioned by the members, unless wait!! The classic double double bluff, or something.

Such as posting photos and making 'cheap' remarks about the physical appearance of Page you mean?

Then Trump will have no difficulty in not trying to hamper Mueller will he? I wonder how he will respond to the question; Mueller: "Tell me Mr President, did you instruct the WH lawyer Mr McGhan to instruct DAG Mr Rosenstein to fire me last June?"

Trump has two possibilities. Say no and perjure himself or say yes and put himself in very grave danger of admitting to attempting to interfere with an investigation of which he is the principal subject. He could of course plead the fifth, but that would be political suicide. He can't in all seriousness say he can't remember because in his own modest estimation he has the best memory in the world.

Claims not to support Hillary but defends her at every turn. ::) ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 27, 2018, 07:42:15 AM
Claims not to support Hillary but defends her at every turn. ::) ;D

I cannot be held accountable for your lack of comprehension.

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