President Donald J. Trump

[SredniVashtar]

Take your time.  I've got some plans and won't be back on line until tomorrow.

Take MD with you. Sitting in your underpants crouched in front of a screen all day must take it out of the poor dear.

[Dr. MD MD]

Now that DT has saved an imaginary billion on Air Force One, maybe Pence will finally get around to opening the investigation, announced three weeks ago, into the three to five million imaginary illegal votes cast in the election.

Your argument is bogus. The articles stated that the Air Force couldn't account for it but if you read further it states, "The White House Military Office, not the Air Force, will set the aircraft’s requirements for advanced security, communications and accommodations, Ryder said." So, they're not overseeing the project and would have no way of accounting for it. You're being disingenuous.

[starrmtn001]

Just cuz I luvz ya, YP & SV. 
AMAZING: Nigel Farage Speaks at CPAC 2017.  2.24.17.

https://youtu.be/ayXYqH1LaBo

[Dr. MD MD]

Take MD with you. Sitting in your underpants crouched in front of a screen all day must take it out of the poor dear.

When queenie comes a trollin'. Speaking of shitty underpants is your Muslim boyfriend finished with you for the day so soon? I guess you're used to the punishments. <shrugs> 

[Dr. MD MD]

Just cuz I luvz ya, YP & SV. 
AMAZING: Nigel Farage Speaks at CPAC 2017.  2.24.17.

See, not everyone in Britain is a complete tool. 

[SredniVashtar]

When queenie comes a trollin'. Speaking of shitty underpants is your Muslim boyfriend finished with you for the day so soon? I guess you're used to the punishments. <shrugs> 

It's worth bearing in mind that the eighteen hours (minimum) per day you spend on here provides the only validation you get from the outside world. We're the closest thing you have to 'friends', and we all think you're a cunt. 

[starrmtn001]

See, not everyone in Britain is a complete tool. 

[Dr. MD MD]

It's worth bearing in mind that the eighteen hours (minimum) per day you spend on here provides the only validation you get from the outside world. We're the closest thing you have to 'friends', and we all think you're a cunt. 

Stop! You've wounded muh feelz. 

[mikuthing01]

Kid does let his emotions get the better of him sometimes as do I.  When he is not in attack mode,  I find his posts to be intellectually stimulating.  Meister does like to post some questionable things and it is no wonder she gets some nasty retorts sometimes.  Maybe if she posted fewer memes and stated her opinions in a coherent manner which she has done once or twice during the past few days then she would gain more respect.

Meister is a woman? At least physically?

I assumed Meister was some old San Fran Queen.

I think I read a post where she was of the feminine persuasion but she could be a queen.  I will refer to her as a she until she tells me otherwise.  I would say her posts indicate femininity though.

Now it makes sense

[Dr. MD MD]

See, Starr still likes me, you sanctimonious faggot! 

[TigerLily]

Kid. I doubt you have much concern for my views. But I do want to say this is an excellent commentary on the state of politics, the media bias and the sad state of our deeply entrenched ideologies. If you don't mind I will add my, hopefully, also thoughtful and thought-provoking commentary.

author=Kidnostad3 link=topic=2284.msg1014160#msg1014160 date=1487898967]
I get my news from all the usual places.  The question you should be asking is how do I evaluate the validity of what is being reported. 
I doubt your "usual places" are my usual places. Full disclosure, I do rely to an extent on mainstream news sources like AP, Reuters and also (gasp) on Wall Street Journal, NYTimes, and Washington Post. My experience has been the latter two get a lot of breaking news and corroborated insider leaks (leaks are good). For hard news, not editorials, commentaries, or opinion pieces. The latter two also seem to coincide with the actual facts which are often borne out later. I also use fact checking sites and also look for the actual quotes from the people involved.  I had never heard of Breitbart before I started hanging out here. I seriously researched and fact checked many articles that didn't seem to coincide with the actual facts as I understood them. It was easy to discover the distortions and downright lies in the articles I researched. Now I wouldn't even line my birdcage with Breitbart. I feel even more contempt for Info Wars, Drudge, News World Daily if they pass on opinions as "news". I also never bother with Mother Jones, Huffington Post, MSNBC, etc.

The networks are owned by corporations who have a vested interest in controlling the narrative and fostering globalism.  If one fails to see the pro right bias in the reporting of FN and the consistently pro left slant in the tone, tenor and arguments of news and commentary on virtually all other networks, one has given himself over completely to his cognitive biases.  If nothing else, the fact that all the commentators on those leftist news outlets told us that Hilliary was a sure bet right up until election night and that they were visibly crestfallen when she lost says it all.  Moreover, they continue their war against Trump with a vengeance.  The print media is similarly biased with Carlos Slim owning the NYT and Jeff Besos owning the WP.
Televised and radio "news" is clearly biased. Yes, I can see how Trump supporters would see a war on Trump by the "leftist" media. Are you going to say there wasn't a similar "war" on Obama and Clinton by the "rightist" media? I discount wild-eyed  propagandists and apologists. I applaud efforts to hold Power accountable to the people. For uncovering the truth and reporting the facts. To me, that is the number one job of a free press.

The political class is solely interested in maintaining the status quo and getting elected/reelected with the help of monied interests.  In other words, politicians are tools of special interests whether it's the Koch Brothers or Soros or any other major financial or commercial entities.  They pay homage to unions and social group advocates ( i.e. NAACP, various Latino groups, the LGBT community, etc.) but the big corporations are their main benefactors and call the shots.
No arguments here. Ask 21 how I feel about money in politics. So far, from my point of view, Trump is adding to the swamp, not draining it.

What you, the MSM and pols fighting Trump fail to realize is that it isn't about republicans versus democrats nor is it necessarily about left versus right.  It's about Americans against big government and corporate globalism and for economic nationalism and national integrity and sovereignty.  The steady nit picking and gotchas will not advance the cause of those opposing Trump.  It will just make them look increasingly petty and obstructionist.
There's quite a bit of generalized ideology in this statement but I agree nitpicking and gotchas should be the purview of sites like this, not news media. Investigation and fact finding are.

How I judge the veracity of reporting is how it comports with what I know to be the facts, the accuracy of reporting when viewed with the benefit of hindsight and what my senses tell me about the person delivering the news or opinion in terms of their level of emotion and body language and how they couch their arguments.  In other words, what my experience with people has taught me over the years.  Most intelligent people do not want to be told what their opinion should be.  Others want to be told.
All of us have our judgments colored by our own experiences and viewpoints and personal opinions. That doesn't make them the truth or factual.

Thus endeth the tome of the TigerLily. Let the sniping begin

[GravitySucks]

😎

[starrmtn001]

See, Starr still likes me, you sanctimonious faggot! 

Easy, Doc.  I like SV and YP also.

[TigerLily]

Easy, Doc.  I like SV and YP also.

And I love my Sister Starr 

[SredniVashtar]

And I love my Sister Starr 

The Trump thread is no place for nauseating displays of comity and togetherness. You Commie stooge!

[TigerLily]

The Trump thread is no place for nauseating displays of comity and togetherness. You Commie stooge!

SV! May I cover you in kisses now?  SredniVashtar

[Dr. MD MD]

what I know to be the facts

This is the crux of the biscuit these days. It's hard to find pure facts without slant, spin or opinion being attached to them. 

[mikuthing01]

😎

>Dat Dragunov

[starrmtn001]

And I love my Sister Starr 

I love my Sister TigerLily.

[starrmtn001]

The Trump thread is no place for nauseating displays of comity and togetherness. You Commie stooge!

SV! May I cover you in kisses now?  SredniVashtar

Oh!  Me too!    SredniVashtar     

[21st Century Man]

The Trump thread is no place for nauseating displays of comity and togetherness. You Commie stooge!

I find myself needing to get away from it now and then.  I find myself getting caught up in the shit posts after a while and it is simply not good for my soul.  I feel like a new man today after being away from it for 48 hours.  I respect anyone who thinks for themselves whether they are on the right or left.  Too often, many get caught up in the right, left, Trump, AntiTrump bubbles and just parrot talking points from whatever sources they like.  I don't exclude myself from doing that at times thus the need to get away for a bit.

[21st Century Man]

Kid. I doubt you have much concern for my views. But I do want to say this is an excellent commentary on the state of politics, the media bias and the sad state of our deeply entrenched ideologies. If you don't mind I will add my, hopefully, also thoughtful and thought-provoking commentary.

author=Kidnostad3 link=topic=2284.msg1014160#msg1014160 date=1487898967]
I get my news from all the usual places.  The question you should be asking is how do I evaluate the validity of what is being reported. 
I doubt your "usual places" are my usual places. Full disclosure, I do rely to an extent on mainstream news sources like AP, Reuters and also (gasp) on Wall Street Journal, NYTimes, and Washington Post. My experience has been the latter two get a lot of breaking news and corroborated insider leaks (leaks are good). For hard news, not editorials, commentaries, or opinion pieces. The latter two also seem to coincide with the actual facts which are often borne out later. I also use fact checking sites and also look for the actual quotes from the people involved.  I had never heard of Breitbart before I started hanging out here. I seriously researched and fact checked many articles that didn't seem to coincide with the actual facts as I understood them. It was easy to discover the distortions and downright lies in the articles I researched. Now I wouldn't even line my birdcage with Breitbart. I feel even more contempt for Info Wars, Drudge, News World Daily if they pass on opinions as "news". I also never bother with Mother Jones, Huffington Post, MSNBC, etc.

The networks are owned by corporations who have a vested interest in controlling the narrative and fostering globalism.  If one fails to see the pro right bias in the reporting of FN and the consistently pro left slant in the tone, tenor and arguments of news and commentary on virtually all other networks, one has given himself over completely to his cognitive biases.  If nothing else, the fact that all the commentators on those leftist news outlets told us that Hilliary was a sure bet right up until election night and that they were visibly crestfallen when she lost says it all.  Moreover, they continue their war against Trump with a vengeance.  The print media is similarly biased with Carlos Slim owning the NYT and Jeff Besos owning the WP.
Televised and radio "news" is clearly biased. Yes, I can see how Trump supporters would see a war on Trump by the "leftist" media. Are you going to say there wasn't a similar "war" on Obama and Clinton by the "rightist" media? I discount wild-eyed  propagandists and apologists. I applaud efforts to hold Power accountable to the people. For uncovering the truth and reporting the facts. To me, that is the number one job of a free press.

The political class is solely interested in maintaining the status quo and getting elected/reelected with the help of monied interests.  In other words, politicians are tools of special interests whether it's the Koch Brothers or Soros or any other major financial or commercial entities.  They pay homage to unions and social group advocates ( i.e. NAACP, various Latino groups, the LGBT community, etc.) but the big corporations are their main benefactors and call the shots.
No arguments here. Ask 21 how I feel about money in politics. So far, from my point of view, Trump is adding to the swamp, not draining it.

What you, the MSM and pols fighting Trump fail to realize is that it isn't about republicans versus democrats nor is it necessarily about left versus right.  It's about Americans against big government and corporate globalism and for economic nationalism and national integrity and sovereignty.  The steady nit picking and gotchas will not advance the cause of those opposing Trump.  It will just make them look increasingly petty and obstructionist.
There's quite a bit of generalized ideology in this statement but I agree nitpicking and gotchas should be the purview of sites like this, not news media. Investigation and fact finding are.

How I judge the veracity of reporting is how it comports with what I know to be the facts, the accuracy of reporting when viewed with the benefit of hindsight and what my senses tell me about the person delivering the news or opinion in terms of their level of emotion and body language and how they couch their arguments.  In other words, what my experience with people has taught me over the years.  Most intelligent people do not want to be told what their opinion should be.  Others want to be told.
All of us have our judgments colored by our own experiences and viewpoints and personal opinions. That doesn't make them the truth or factual.



Thus endeth the tome of the TigerLily. Let the sniping begin

Nothing to snipe away about.  I would never subscribe to the NYT or Washington Post but I'll read something from them every now and then.  I'd rather read AP. I do like the Drudge Report.  All they do is post links to stories they favor and that includes links to stories from the NYT and Washington Post.  Sometimes they are interesting, sometimes not.  Yes, Drudge tilts heavily to the right but I don't think he is far, far right. Besides they like to post stories on fringe topics.  Drudge usually posts a story about exorcism every few days from some part of the world. I stay away from Breitbart for the most part.  If Drudge links to a story on Breitbart or someone here does, I'll read it and pass it on to folks here if I think it is worthy.  Most times I do not.  Everyone here knows what I think of Alex Jones so I view anything Infowars posts with a skeptical eye.  I try to check Huffpo every now and then but it ends up nauseating me.

I check out the network news about every six months usually ABC.  I shake my head usually 5 or 6 times during a broadcast and then stay away from the network news for another 6 months.

[starrmtn001]

LIVE 🔴 CPAC 2017 President Trump Meeting with Peruvian President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski 2-24-17.

https://youtu.be/XXpMcFqBKCk

[starrmtn001]

Say, SV and YP, do you have one of these?  If not, then you can take ours.  PLEASE!
Nancy Pelosi Is An Idiot!!!  2.24.17.

https://youtu.be/4eT5bSV-t5Y

[Yorkshire pud]

Just cuz I luvz ya, YP & SV. 
AMAZING: Nigel Farage Speaks at CPAC 2017.  2.24.17.

Ahh Little Nigel, the runaway. He's another one who chased a car and didn't know what to do when he caught it. Then he made his excuses and left the shit pile he'd made. But its good he found refuge in a room full of kindred deluded fools. 

[starrmtn001]

Ahh Little Nigel, the runaway. He's another one who chased a car and didn't know what to do when he caught it. Then he made his excuses and left the shit pile he'd made. But it's good he found refuge in a room full of kindred deluded fools. 

I knew you'd love it.

[Yorkshire pud]

I knew you'd love it.

I wouldn't piss on the twat if he was on fire.

[starrmtn001]

I wouldn't piss on the twat if he was on fire.

And I'm sure he would afford you the same accommodation. :

[Yorkshire pud]

And I'm sure he would afford you the same accommodation. :

The difference is, he needs to be loved. Not as much as Trump does, but its there.

[starrmtn001]

The difference is, he needs to be loved. Not as much as Trump does, but its there.

As does every human being.