President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

I said the Muslims that go crazy not all Muslims.  You get an F for reading comprehension.

Oh I was paraphrasing Trump. He asked Giuliani to draft a proposal to ban Muslims without specifically saying so. As I said, Apple. MS, and several universities and so far four states are taking him to task, and now taking him to court over it.

[K_Dubb]

Tillerson just signed some stuff in the Oval Office in front of what looked like a bust of Lincoln.  How many busts can you put in there anyway?  I think they're playing move-the-busts to troll the press.

[Dr. MD MD]

No; its illogical to make the assumption that all Muslims are criminals. They're not. Any more than suggesting that all Mexicans are rapists (as Trump did). It just panders to the paranoid hard of thinking.

What the idiotic ill thought out and unconsulted EO has done is scare legitimate workers and students from going to work in the USA. Or have Google, MIT, Microsoft, Tesla, Apple and Netflix got it wrong?

But facts don't come easily to Trump unless he agree with them. Or he invents them.

Of course not all Muslims are terrorist, you simpleton. However, these days most terrorists turn out to be Muslim (excluding this recent Canadian one, I guess). Anyway... :

[albrecht]

No; its illogical to make the assumption that all Muslims are criminals. They're not. Any more than suggesting that all Mexicans are rapists (as Trump did). It just panders to the paranoid hard of thinking.

What the idiotic ill thought out and unconsulted EO has done is scare legitimate workers and students from going to work in the USA. Or have Google, MIT, Microsoft, Tesla, Apple and Netflix got it wrong?

But facts don't come easily to Trump unless he agree with them. Or he invents them.

All Trump did, like Obama, Carter, Bush, etc is say "hold on" let's make sure the people, especially Muslims, coming in as "refugees" (green-card holders were not effected) or travelers coming in from lands of violence and mayhem are checked, screened, or vetted. Since they aren't (as proven in various attacks) let's figure out how to do a better job. Now, if it were me, I wouldn't allow most of them in. And the ones I did would allow in would not be allowed to overstay their VISAs, have proof of income and self-responsibility, and if working, or studying, in certain fields be extra-vetted and/or surveilled.

Far too much threat of violence and demographic disruption. And outsourcing/giving our codes, manufacturing, technology, and access to critical infrastructure to "students" and "workers" from potential enemy countries, including China and Russia, is insane. Why should we be training nuclear engineers (insert other examples) to return home with knowledge how to better their programs? But Trump is not stopping it, only saying a small percentage (I don't know, exactly how many ISIS members are working IT for Google and those companies, but I doubt it is a high number): hold on, who are you, where have you been, what are your intentions, etc.

In short, yes, Google, Microsoft, Tesla, Apple, and Netflix have got it wrong. They have no allegiance to the US or indeed the idea of a nation-state at all. They willingly use slave labor and willing allow censorship by their programs and services by more authoritarian, even despotic, governments but, at the same time, in our countries, will allow ISIS videos, bullying, or online streamed suicides by kids because "doesn't violate code of conducts." Fine free speech etc but don't assume they are looking to do public good or care a whit about any of our countries- past a paycheck or investment. They also, depending on the situation and contract $$, will work willing against our citizens abridging our civil rights and laws. If the money is right. They look only to their bottom-line, which as a company, they should. It is up to the people, via their governments, and shareholders, via their investments, to curtail them when they do wrong, are a public threat, or use corrupt business practices and up to governments to determine the laws- not some high-tech companies (or other companies.) Hey, I sounded almost like some BLM or Occupy protestor there. haha.   

[JesusJuice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ludIRX2Qqv8

[Luka Megurine]

Of course not all Muslims are terrorist, you simpleton. However, these days most terrorists turn out to be Muslim (excluding this recent Canadian one, I guess). Anyway... :

99.99% are terrorists the rest are porn stars

[Yorkshire pud]

Tillerson just signed some stuff in the Oval Office in front of what looked like a bust of Lincoln.  How many busts can you put in there anyway?  I think they're playing move-the-busts to troll the press.

As long as Pamela Anderson doesn't take root in bronze, it will be fine.

[Yorkshire pud]

All Trump did, like Obama, Carter, Bush, etc is say "hold on" let's make sure the people, especially Muslims, coming in as "refugees" (green-card holders were not effected) or travelers coming in from lands of violence and mayhem are checked, screened, or vetted.

They have been for years. Trump didn't invent vigilance. He might like you to think he did; but he really didn't.

[Dr. MD MD]

They have been for years. Trump didn't invent vigilance. He might like you to think he did; but he really didn't.

Well, too many terrorists were mysteriously getting in somehow so obviously security needs tightening. You know, like how your sphincter muscle must be 24/7. 

[albrecht]

They have been for years. Trump didn't invent vigilance. He might like you to think he did; but he really didn't.

But it failed so many times in the past (and will again) and this is the first time that they were going to 'temporarily' do something and examine/refine the process that there were riots and the media, and opposition party, was so against common-sense.

I think we should dump the unvetted Muslims, the caught and released criminal illegals, and other various and assorted illegals, criminals, terrorists, and miscreants into those protesting states and 'sanctuary cities' and cut off all Federal funds to those states or cities. And have a strict-liability law that if any of those people they love so much travels to another state and commits a crime that that State/City, and political officials, are liable and must pay damages civilly (personally and corporately) to the victims and the leaders criminally liable for long imprisonment and financial penalties.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well, too many terrorists were mysteriously getting in somehow so obviously security needs tightening. You know, like how your sphincter muscle must be 24/7. 

Oh? Which terrorists from Iran, Syria, Sudan, Yemen and Somalia 'got in'? I know of 19 from Saudi Arabia and another two from Chechnya.

[Yorkshire pud]

But it failed so many times in the past (and will again) and this is the first time that they were going to 'temporarily' do something and examine/refine the process that there were riots and the media, and opposition party, was so against common-sense.

I think we should dump the unvetted Muslims, the caught and released criminal illegals, and other various and assorted illegals, criminals, terrorists, and miscreants into those protesting states and 'sanctuary cities' and cut off all Federal funds to them. And have a strict-liability law that if any of those people they love so much travels to another state and commits a crime that that State/City, and officials, are liable and must pay damages civilly (personally and corporately) to the victims and the leaders criminally liable for imprisonment.

I suggest the owners and share holders of the firearms companies who make firearms used to murder innocent people should be liable too. Oh wait; that was tried and it was a political hot potato. Can't upset the gun lobby..

[albrecht]

I suggest the owners and share holders of the firearms companies who make firearms used to murder innocent people should be liable too. Oh wait; that was tried and it was a political hot potato. Can't upset the gun lobby..

No, because it doesn't make any sense, legally or morally. Under my proposed plan, if the much beloved terrorist, illegal, or miscreant does leave the sanctuary city/state but doesn't commit a crime there would be no liability attached, criminally or civilly, to those sanctuaries. Only if they do. Likewise if a firearm is poorly made and 'shoots itself off' and hurts/kills someone or if some gun dealer sells it to a terrorist or child and they shoot someone they have a liability. Like a truck or any tool. When the Muslim drives the car into a crowd of people enjoying the afternoon it is not manufacturer's fault. Now if the truck has some kind of, cruise control, for example, that was faulty and it accelerated the driver could not stop the truck plowing into the crowd that the mfg is liable. Now if the truck was fine but the driver was drunk or tired from driving so long and plowed in the crowd the driver is liable but the difference is no malice or intent (though, I think, in some jurisdictions this is changing with regard to drunk driving) unlike the Muslim who willfully and purposely plowed into the crowd.

[Kidnostad3]

LOL.. Trump can just about write his name. 

That is just stupid.  Trump is an educated man and probably has an IQ as high or higher than yours.  You may not like him but you at least should be honest.

[Yorkshire pud]

No, because it doesn't make any sense, legally or morally.

30000 are killed in the USA per year with firearms and you think it immoral the people who make the tools for those deaths are not held accountable; but officials who have hold over a state should be?

Under my proposed plan, if the much beloved terrorist, illegal, or miscreant does leave the sanctuary city/state but doesn't commit a crime there would be no liability attached, criminally or civilly, to those sanctuaries. Only if they do. Likewise if a firearm is poorly made and 'shoots itself off' and hurts/kills someone or if some gun dealer sells it to a terrorist or child and they shoot someone they have a liability. Like a truck or any tool. When the Muslim drives the car into a crowd of people enjoying the afternoon it is not manufacturer's fault. No if the truck has some kind of, cruise control, for example, that was faulty and it accelerated the driver could not stop the truck plowing into the crowd that the mfg is liable.

Only other terrorists admire or even love terrorists. Normal people don't. More Muslims are murdered by Islamic terrorists than all other religions combined; so the mantra of all Muslims being sympathetic is stupid and irrational.

[Dr. MD MD]

I suggest the owners and share holders of the firearms companies who make firearms used to murder innocent people should be liable too. Oh wait; that was tried and it was a political hot potato. Can't upset the gun lobby..

Why stop there?! Why not sue the knife manufacturers for everyone that's been stabbed? Then we can go after the car companies for anyone who's ever been injured or killed in a automobile accident. I can't wait to see what this utopia with no sharp corners of yours looks like. Like most of your notions, it's ridiculous! 

[Yorkshire pud]

That is just stupid.  Trump is an educated man and probably has an IQ as high or higher than yours.  You may not like him but you at least should be honest.

Oh FFS. I see squirrels running up and down trees looking for nuts with a higher IQ than Trump.

[Yorkshire pud]

Why stop there?! Why not sue the knife manufacturers for everyone that's been stabbed? Then we can go after the car companies for anyone who's ever been injured or killed in a automobile accident. I can't wait to see what this utopia with no sharp corners of yours looks like. Like most of your notions, it's ridiculous! 

As is holding state officials responsible for any murder unless they instigated it. Oh wait; you mean only murders perpetrated by Muslims, yeah?

[Jackstar]

I see squirrels

That's really just your delirium tremens.

[Kidnostad3]

Oh FFS. I see squirrels running up and down trees looking for nuts with a higher IQ than Trump.

Well you have again taken a position that no one can refute since you won't volunteer your IQ and there are only bullshit estimates of Trump's (135 plus).  So I guess you are safe.  Shamelessly arbitrary, but safe.

[Yorkshire pud]

That's really just your delirium tremens.

A friend of mine has two tickets for this years FA Cup final, both box seats. He paid £2000 for each ticket, but he didn't realise last year when he bought them, that was going to be the same day as his wedding.
If you're interested it's at St Mary's church at 3 PM. Her name is Michelle, she is 5 foot six, about 135lbs, good cook and loves to cuddle. She'll be the one in the white puffy dress.
Let me know if you're interested.

[JesusJuice]

Sen. Franken made a cunt of himself at the confirmation hearing for Jeff Sessions today

The embed should start at 38:24, if not then just skip ahead.

https://youtu.be/M6exkVPEbKM?t=2304

[Luka Megurine]

30000 are killed in the USA per year with firearms and you think it immoral the people who make the tools for those deaths are not held accountable; but officials who have hold over a state should be?

60% of those are suicides and then once you factor in niggers killing each other over monkey games it drops significantly again.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well you have again taken a position that no one can refute since you won't volunteer your IQ and there are only bullshit estimates of Trump's (135 plus).  So I guess you are safe.  Shamelessly arbitrary but safe.

Jeeze. I had a test a few years ago and it was about 130-132 from memory. But IQ by itself means fuck all in everyday life. Trump is inarticulate, a narcissist and with a very limited attention span.

[Walks_At_Night]

A friend of mine has two tickets for this years FA Cup final, both box seats. He paid £2000 for each ticket, but he didn't realise last year when he bought them, that was going to be the same day as his wedding.
If you're interested it's at St Mary's church at 3 PM. Her name is Michelle, she is 5 foot six, about 135lbs, good cook and loves to cuddle. She'll be the one in the white puffy dress.
Let me know if you're interested.

So are you going to the match or the Jack's wedding?

[Yorkshire pud]

So are you going to the match or the Jack's wedding?

I don't like footie....

[Luka Megurine]

Sen. Franken made a cunt of himself at the confirmation hearing for Jeff Sessions today

The embed should start at 38:24, if not then just skip ahead.

https://youtu.be/M6exkVPEbKM?t=2304

What a faggot

[K_Dubb]

Uh-oh.  White House has a leak.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-gday-mate-on-call-with-australian-pm-trump-badgers-and-brags/2017/02/01/88a3bfb0-e8bf-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.33e0779a800c

[Kidnostad3]

A friend of mine has two tickets for this years FA Cup final, both box seats. He paid £2000 for each ticket, but he didn't realise last year when he bought them, that was going to be the same day as his wedding.
If you're interested it's at St Mary's church at 3 PM. Her name is Michelle, she is 5 foot six, about 135lbs, good cook and loves to cuddle. She'll be the one in the white puffy dress.
Let me know if you're interested.

Okay, that's some funny shit right there I don't care who you are.

[Walks_At_Night]

I don't like footie....

Jack's Best Man then?