President Donald J. Trump

[Richard Groyper]

I know.  People are being ridiculous.

Transsexual Art Bell leading the revolution to make frogs gay! Life comes at you fast, my dudes.

[Yorkshire pud]

It's the left talking Civil War now because they have their panties tied in a wad.  Expect even less follow through from them.  For the record, I never heard of this "American Spring" you are mentioning and I had no desire to participate in such an event.

Do you think the Republicans openly saying that Trump; correction, Bannon has lost the plot, are leftists then?

This isn't a left/right thing. This is Trump's group (Stephen Miller apparently wrote the Muslim ban EO!) of despots attempting to change the fundamental laws of the USA. You really think this will stop with Muslims or brown people in general? If you do, you're incredibly naive.

[21st Century Man]

Do you think the Republicans openly saying that Trump; correction, Bannon has lost the plot, are leftists then?

This isn't a left/right thing. This is Trump's group (Stephen Miller apparently wrote the Muslim ban EO!) of despots attempting to change the fundamental laws of the USA. You really think this will stop with Muslims or brown people in general? If you do, you're incredibly naive.

It is only in the last 50 years that we have allowed everybody into this country.  We used to have restrictions and I'm for restoring those restrictions.  This is a freaking temporary ban for 4 months so take a chill pill.

[K_Dubb]

Art bell has a better chance of hosting C2Cam again then an American civil war kicking off over this left and right bs.

Damn!  I was going to get out my accordion and practice.

[Yorkshire pud]

Isolationism isn't good for most businesses. And the message from business leaders is coming in loud and clear: This ban hurts business. CEOs of major American companies like Netflix (NFLX, Tech30), Google (GOOG) GE (GE), Goldman Sachs (GS) and Ford (F) quickly decried the order.


"American business and the American president are now at odds. It is impossible to be a successful global corporation with the 'Trump Wall,'" wrote Peter Atwater, president of Financial Insyghts in his note Sunday.
Here's a rundown of how bad it could get for the U.S. economy if Trump pushes forward with an isolationist agenda.



1. Loss of top talent -- America wins in business because it has been able to attract a lot of the top talent from around the world. Companies like Apple (AAPL, Tech30), eBay (EBAY) and Oracle (ORCL, Tech30) were founded by immigrants or the children of immigrants from countries that are part of the Trump immigration ban.
Friday's ban is already preventing PhD students, doctors, researchers and business leaders from returning to the U.S. or traveling abroad. Google (GOOG), for example, says at least 100 of its employees are impacted. Beyond the immediate impact, the ban might cause talented young people who were to go elsewhere. Canada has been quick to put out the welcome mat.

2. Big American brands and tourism could take a hit -- Goldman Sachs has already sent a note about the "growing risks to global trade." The bank recommends that clients invest in companies that are smaller and doing most of their sales in the U.S. Translation: America's big global brands could suffer.
A company like Apple has over 200 suppliers around the world, according to Macworld. Anything that prevents the flow of goods or people across borders will cause upheaval.
On top of that, tourism makes contributes about $1.5 trillion a year to the U.S. economy (roughly 8% of GDP), according to the World Travel and Tourism Council and U.S. government data. Friday's ban and the ensuing chaos at U.S. airports over the weekend could cause foreigners to book trips elsewhere.

3. A trade war -- No foreign country will send a thank you note to Trump if he enacts tariffs on foreign goods coming into the U.S. They will retaliate. Mexico is already talking tough about a rapid response, and China's army went as far as to warn the risk of war as "more real" over the weekend.
This is exactly what Republican business executives like Mitt Romney and Meg Whitman warned about almost a year ago. They said Trump could send the U.S. into a recession if he cut America off from the rest of the world with walls, tariffs and severe immigration restrictions.
It hasn't happened yet, but the possibility is growing that it will.
This could have a swift impact on American jobs. For example, 6 million U.S. jobs depend on trade with Mexico alone, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. And experts are already warning that costs will go up for many goods if Trump implements a tariff (another word for a tax).

[Yorkshire pud]

It is only in the last 50 years that we have allowed everybody into this country.  We used to have restrictions and I'm for restoring those restrictions.  This is a freaking temporary ban for 4 months so take a chill pill.

Its a 'temporary' ban that is affecting American citizens, today. Americans with foreign born spouses. Important employees of American companies.

How would your life be affected if you couldn't go to work for four months, or see your wife and children because a diktat from a child working for the President said so?

[norland2424]

Transsexual Art Bell leading the revolution to make frogs gay! Life comes at you fast, my dudes.

Making big tits great again !!!

[21st Century Man]

Its a 'temporary' ban that is affecting American citizens, today. Americans with foreign born spouses. Important employees of American companies.

How would your life be affected if you couldn't go to work for four months, or see your wife and children because a diktat from a child working for the President said so?

That is why we have courts to straighten out the kinks.  I will concede the point that if what you are saying is true then the order was poorly written.

[ItsOver]

Transsexual Art Bell leading the revolution to make frogs gay! Life comes at you fast, my dudes.

"Dancing queen, dancing queen...."

[Dr. MD MD]

Its a 'temporary' ban that is affecting American citizens, today. Americans with foreign born spouses. Important employees of American companies.

How would your life be affected if you couldn't go to work for four months, or see your wife and children because a diktat from a child working for the President said so?

[Yorkshire pud]

That is why we have courts to straighten out the kinks.  I will concede the point that if what you are saying is true then the order was poorly written.

Trump hasn't followed the law; the EO was stayed and Trump ignored it. Because 'he knows best'. The fact is, the EO wasn't checked by lawyers first and the relevant agencies not consulted. It was just scribbled out and implemented without warning to anyone. Airport immigration officers were telling passengers to call Trump on the matter, because they didn't know what was going on. Even the Chairwoman of the Foreign Affairs sub cmmtee (Rep) wasn't consulted. Its a fucking circus without the joke.

[Yorkshire pud]

I wish I would fuck off and die, I'm embarrassing.

So true.

[Richard Groyper]

"Dancing queen, dancing queen...."

Comrade. *tips cap*

[21st Century Man]

Trump hasn't followed the law; the EO was stayed and Trump ignored it. Because 'he knows best'. The fact is, the EO wasn't checked by lawyers first and the relevant agencies not consulted. It was just scribbled out and implemented without warning to anyone. Airport immigration officers were telling passengers to call Trump on the matter, because they didn't know what was going on. Even the Chairwoman of the Foreign Affairs sub cmmtee (Rep) wasn't consulted. Its a fucking circus without the joke.

It should have been checked by the lawyers and Homeland Security first.  I agree with that point.  Hopefully he will learn something from this experience.

[Yorkshire pud]

It should have been checked by the lawyers and Homeland Security first.  I agree with that point.  Hopefully he will learn something from this experience.

The lawyers who took him to court said the WH lawyers didn't know what their instructions were in court. The Plaintiff lawyers said they couldn't believe it, as the usual procedure would be weeks of adjournments and legal arguments. The WH lawyers couldn't present anything to defend the EO and the judge had no real option but to stay it.

Trump won't learn anything; he's far too concerned with being seen and loved. Its debatable whether its him or Bannon running things anyway.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm a dickwad shilling for a corrupt system.

So true!

[Kidnostad3]

Just to set the tone here I just heard the results of an NBC poll that says that Americans favor Trump's EO 58% to 42%.  Of course everyone knows that NBC polls are shit so it's probably more like 75% for, 15% against and 10% undecided. 

[21st Century Man]

Just to set the tone here I just heard the results of an NBC poll that says that Americans favor Trump's EO 58% to 42%.  Of course everyone knows that NBC polls are shit so it's probably more like 75% for, 15% against and 10% undecided.

Exactly.  Add at least 10 points to the Republican side in any MSM poll.

[SredniVashtar]

Just to set the tone here I just heard the results of an NBC poll that says that Americans favor Trump's EO 58% to 42%.  Of course everyone knows that NBC polls are shit so it's probably more like 75% for, 15% against and 10% undecided.

What an odd thing to brag about.

[21st Century Man]

What an odd thing to brag about.

It is no wonder your country is being taken over.  20 years from now, London will have changed its name to Londonistan.  Stop being such cucks and defend your home.  I mourn for England.

[Juan]

It took less than ten full days for Obama to begin meddling.  His feelings seem to be hurt.

[Yorkshire pud]

It is no wonder your country is being taken over.  20 years from now, London will have changed its name to Londonistan.  Stop being such cucks and defend your home.  I mourn for England.

Isn't it fortunate that Steve Job's father wasn't denied entry to the US? You'd all be using Samsungs now. 

But bragging that some of the USA would deny the very thing that almost all living Americans have to be thankful for, is depressing.

[Dr. MD MD]

It took less than ten full days for Obama to begin meddling.  His feelings seem to be hurt.

Yep, he's already meddling. Of course, Soros is pulling his strings. 

And then there's this asshole. You know, I really liked him in Stranger Things but fuck him! I'm am NOT united with you seditious freaks. Have fun selling your country out, douchebag!  :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ6Idopz1yI

[Yorkshire pud]

It took less than ten full days for Obama to begin meddling.  His feelings seem to be hurt.

Oh? Trump meddled in Obama's term. That's if you include free speech as meddling? 

[Yorkshire pud]

Yep, he's already meddling. Of course, Soros is pulling his strings. 

And then there's this asshole. You know, I really liked him in Stranger Things but fuck him! I'm am NOT united with you seditious freaks. Have fun selling your country out, douchebag!  :

Yeah BOOO!!! How dare he have an opinion different to yours or mine. BOO!!  :

[Dr. MD MD]

Yeah BOOO!!! How dare he have an opinion different to yours or mine. BOO!!  :

I'm insulted that they think this little propaganda campaign is actually going to work. They're just not trying anymore. Besides, the majority of the country clearly want this. 

[SredniVashtar]

It is no wonder your country is being taken over.  20 years from now, London will have changed its name to Londonistan.  Stop being such cucks and defend your home.  I mourn for England.

I can't believe this was written by a human being. It sounds it comes from some sort of cliche generator. Don't use the word 'cuck', it makes you sound like you're not used to speaking to adults.

[Dr. MD MD]

I can't believe this was written by a human being. It sounds it comes from some sort of cliche generator. Don't use the word 'cuck', it makes you sound like you're not used to speaking to adults.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUkscj9WOKY

[Jackstar]

I can't believe this was written by a human being.

It's an older model, but it checks out.

[SredniVashtar]

Yeah BOOO!!! How dare he have an opinion different to yours or mine. BOO!!  :

I wish they'd get cracking and have Mars ready to be colonised, then this lot can climb aboard and enjoy all the freedom they like up there. No brown people either. With the added bonus that we don't have to listen to the Trumpian whinings any more.