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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

AvDaBr

Pat has been espousing the virtues of border control, states' rights, economic protectionism, non-interventionism, etc. for several decades now.  He has an encyclopedic knowledge of history and has served as advisor to at least two Presidents.  I do hope Trump at least makes an effort to tap into that well of advice.

CornyCrow

Quote from: AvDaBr on November 13, 2016, 03:28:45 PM
Pat has been espousing the virtues of border control, states' rights, economic protectionism, non-interventionism, etc. for several decades now.  He has an encyclopedic knowledge of history and has served as advisor to at least two Presidents.  I do hope Trump at least makes an effort to tap into that well of advice.
I want pragmatists and not religious fanatics. 
I think it was Kellyanne who brought the Trump campaign victory.  He was just treading water with the same number of votes until she came on and gave the movement more momentum.  I'm glad that he now can see women who are past their prime and not 10's can also contribute to the world. 

Quote from: zeebo on November 13, 2016, 03:10:33 PM
He should get special allowances though for putting up with Eleanor Clift all those years on McLaughlin Group.

McLaughlin, another one we lost this year.  It was a good show, had a good run.

Buchanan'a latest article http://www.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2016/11/11/memo-to-trump-action-this-day-n2244178


Quote from: Segundus on November 13, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
I think it was Kellyanne who brought the Trump campaign victory.  He was just treading water with the same number of votes until she came on and gave the movement more momentum. 

Yes, she deserves a lot of credit.  I heard Peter Thiel is also advising him.  There shouldn't be quotas, but it's good to see diversity in his inner circle.

http://prntly.com/2016/11/12/trumps-first-3-transition-dream-team-members-are-female-gay-black-liberals-are-having-a-meltdown/

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: zeebo on November 13, 2016, 03:10:33 PM
He should get special allowances though for putting up with Eleanor Clift all those years on McLaughlin Group.

Hell, for putting up with McLaughlin himself. ZEEBO, WHAT SAY YOU?  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: norland2424 on November 13, 2016, 03:19:35 PM
lol that has nothing to do with common core, and a more real history will never be taught in public schools, atleast not in our lifetimes

lol...you have no credibility and are talking out of your ass again.  ;D

Quote from: Segundus on November 13, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
I think it was Kellyanne who brought the Trump campaign victory.  He was just treading water with the same number of votes until she came on and gave the movement more momentum.  I'm glad that he now can see women who are past their prime and not 10's can also contribute to the world.


She does deserve a lot of credit.  He has put women in high places in his companies who are far from 10's so it is nothing new.  He just doesn't want to be married to one.  That is his loss of he can't see past looks.

AvDaBr

Quote from: Segundus on November 13, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
I want pragmatists and not religious fanatics. 
I think it was Kellyanne who brought the Trump campaign victory.  He was just treading water with the same number of votes until she came on and gave the movement more momentum.  I'm glad that he now can see women who are past their prime and not 10's can also contribute to the world.

With all due respect to Ms. Conway, I'll take Pat over a career Republican strategist/pollster.

norland2424

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
lol...you have no credibility and are talking out of your ass again.  ;D

its true, i was in school in thru the 1990s and i graduated HS in 2003, way before common core, and they never taught us the real history of the USA. and they never will since the bad stuff makes us look well bad.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
lol...you have no credibility and are talking out of your ass again.  ;D

Actually he is right, MD.  What is taught in schools is part of the problem but the largest part of the problem is the people we are putting in schools to teach children. Many are leftist sycophants.  Until that changes, it will be more of the same.  Don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 13, 2016, 03:41:45 PM

She does deserve a lot of credit.  He has put women in high places in his companies who are far from 10's so it is nothing new.  He just doesn't want to be married to one.  That is his loss of he can't see past looks.
He obviously has some bad actions in the past towards women, at least with regard to crude comments, but I don't think he is stupid as a businessman, or even now as a politician, and puts "gender" or "race" or "whatever" about performance or proven skill. Now, maybe like many, one might "look out for their family" but I don't think any nepotism would last long if it hurt the bottom-line.

I hate to admit liking politics sometimes but I actually can't wait to listen to "Beyond The Beltway" tonight and hear how the "experts" and "pundits" cover their predictions, react, etc. I didn't watch any of the "Sunday Shows" this AM (long, late night with football and then UFC fights, which I normally haven't gotten into or like, but, man, ouch and some crazy fights.)

http://beyondthebeltway.com/
https://www.facebook.com/beyondthebeltway

Quote from: norland2424 on November 13, 2016, 03:44:31 PM
its true, i was in school in thru the 1990s and i graduated HS in 2003, way before common core, and they never taught us the real history of the USA. and they never will since the bad stuff makes us look well bad.

The good and the bad needs to be taught in schools and then let the students make up their minds.  Contrary to the kids protesting in cities across America, many are actually quite smart and can think for themselves.

zeebo

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
Hell, for putting up with McLaughlin himself. ZEEBO, WHAT SAY YOU?  :D

Ah man I'm gonna miss that guy and his theatrical style.  Also his show was interesting as it took a broader contextual view of issues than the typical cable news stories on whatever shocking thing happened ten mins. ago. 

albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 13, 2016, 03:45:04 PM
Actually he is right, MD.  What is taught in schools is part of the problem but the largest part of the problem is the people we are putting in schools to teach children. Many are leftist sycophants.  Until that changes, it will be more of the same.  Don't expect it to happen anytime soon.
Which is actually, oddly, why we need to encourage teachers by paying a better salary (performance and other criteria based,) "reform" some of the rules/conditions in schools that encourage teachers to quit, get the illegals or gangmembers out of our schools, and encourage people retiring from business, the military, and other jobs to become teachers or, at least, subs. Or people out of work in the Obama Economy to teach/sub while they find another job. It shouldn't all be "education degree" teachers teaching our children.

norland2424

Quote from: 21st Century Man on November 13, 2016, 03:47:54 PM
The good and the bad needs to be taught in schools and then let the students make up their minds.  Contrary to the kids protesting in cities across America, many are actually quite smart and can think for themselves.

and thats the problem, they dont actually encorage indepent thoughts in our schools, and they dont even spend time teaching valuble work skills, any schooling before college just ends up being daycare  :-\

3OctaveFart

Neither Trump, Preibus nor Bannon has ever worked in government. That is not a real great formula for administrative success.

norland2424

Quote from: albrecht on November 13, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
Which is actually, oddly, why we need to encourage teachers by paying a better salary (performance and other criteria based,) "reform" some of the rules/conditions in schools that encourage teachers to quit, get the illegals or gangmembers out of our schools, and encourage people retiring from business, the military, and other jobs to become teachers or, at least, subs. Or people out of work in the Obama Economy to teach/sub while they find another job. It shouldn't all be "education degree" teachers teaching our children.

lol thats the problem, alot of teachers, more so the ones on tenure get paid to much money so they get lazy and complacement , lol and illegals in schools are a non factor.

albrecht

Quote from: zeebo on November 13, 2016, 03:50:03 PM
Ah man I'm gonna miss that guy and his theatrical style.  Also his show was interesting as it took a broader contextual view of issues than the typical cable news stories on whatever shocking thing happened ten mins. ago.
It was no Firing Line but a different format and you are right. Beyond the Beltway is sort of like McLaughlin group without his style (though I've only listened to it on radio and not tv. Which is nice because you don't need to see whatever guests or hosts. Some people have a face for radio.)

Quote from: albrecht on November 13, 2016, 03:50:09 PM
Which is actually, oddly, why we need to encourage teachers by paying a better salary (performance and other criteria based,) "reform" some of the rules/conditions in schools that encourage teachers to quit, get the illegals or gangmembers out of our schools, and encourage people retiring from business, the military, and other jobs to become teachers or, at least, subs. Or people out of work in the Obama Economy to teach/sub while they find another job. It shouldn't all be "education degree" teachers teaching our children.

Couldn't agree more.

Quote from: norland2424 on November 13, 2016, 03:50:23 PM
and thats the problem, they dont actually encorage indepent thoughts in our schools, and they dont even spend time teaching valuble work skills, any schooling before college just ends up being daycare  :-\

Exactly.

albrecht

Quote from: norland2424 on November 13, 2016, 03:52:07 PM
lol thats the problem, alot of teachers, more so the ones on tenure get paid to much money so they get lazy and complacement , lol and illegals in schools are a non factor.
Not here. In some schools/grades illegals are a majority. We now are actually having to pay for DINNER, not just breakfast and lunch. Now, granted, this comes from Federal grants etc. But the sad thing is schools care more attendance (no matter the status of the child since by law/court decisions illegals must be allowed in school) because attendance is how they get their money from the State/Feds which add into the money they get from our local property taxes. But the school performance goes down (hard to teach US history to a class that isn't even fluent in their own language(s) and so those that can leave and go to another school district or go private/religious to get a decent education. Now less tax-payer basis to support the schools and less attendance and so less budget, so facilities suffer. Bring in illegals or whatever in attempts to get more funds. Cycle-and-Repeat.


norland2424

Quote from: albrecht on November 13, 2016, 03:56:19 PM
Not here. In some schools/grades illegals are a majority. We now are actually having to pay for DINNER, not just breakfast and lunch. Now, granted, this comes from Federal grants etc. But the sad thing is schools care more attendance (no matter the status of the child since by law/court decisions illegals must be allowed in school) because attendance is how they get their money from the State/Feds which add into the money they get from our local property taxes. But the school performance goes down (hard to teach US history to a class that isn't even fluent in their own language(s) and so those that can leave and go to another school district or go private/religious to get a decent education. Now less tax-payer basis to support the schools and less attendance and so less budget, so facilities suffer. Bring in illegals or whatever in attempts to get more funds. Cycle-and-Repeat.

who gives a shit if children are being fed? i mean i always see you moan about that and i never understand why its such a negative thing that kids dont go hungry?

Quote from: Segundus on November 13, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
I want pragmatists and not religious fanatics. 
I think it was Kellyanne who brought the Trump campaign victory.  He was just treading water with the same number of votes until she came on and gave the movement more momentum.  I'm glad that he now can see women who are past their prime and not 10's can also contribute to the world.

That's just silly.  Pat Buchanan is hardly a 'religious fanatic'.  But this stuff is just another example of why the Ds lost, continually insulting the rest of America.

Now Muslims, if it's 'religious fanatics' you want, look no further.  Yet the Ds can't bend over backwards enough for this group.

Try thinking for yourself.



theONE

Quote from: Meatie Pie on November 13, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
Neither Trump, Preibus nor Bannon has ever worked in government. That is not a real great formula for administrative success.

This actually might be the best formula,..country is a big -huge business-
good businessman/President will have his people who are experts in various fields to do their job,
he will supervise them and make final crucial decisions, President doesn't need to know exactly all the details
how the administration works he has more important things to worry about,..he has some idea how the administration works
and that is enough

...but you are not looking at the bright side of this you are stuck in anal canal of Hillry's ass and you are bitter that
she got destroyed ..and that's only the beginning I sincerely hope...I hope one day we will be re'posting pictures from
her jail cell or from her insane asylum room...
because she might listen to her lawyer and claim insanity to avoid jail cell --- hehehe

3OctaveFart

I wouldn't have voted for Broomhilda if she were the last nuclear cockroach. Try again, champ.

albrecht

Quote from: norland2424 on November 13, 2016, 04:00:36 PM
who gives a shit if children are being fed? i mean i always see you moan about that and i never understand why its such a negative thing that kids dont go hungry?
I only bitch about it, not moan. Because give-aways like this encourage more illegals to come, help ruin our schools, drain our tax-money, etc. And we already give many millions in US aid (government and charitable) to their countries. Let the children eat their "free" meals there instead if their parents won't even bother to feed them dinner. Sometimes charity begins at home. Once all the CITIZENS, including children and adults, and even some vets, aren't hungry why give it away to illegals?

Ha, Bruce from BTB played a clip in which he said "Hillary, Rubio, and Trump could pull it off" and the Dem guest was saying "Trump no way"
http://youtu.be/uUmr_0uM9TA

theONE

Quote from: Meatie Pie on November 13, 2016, 04:06:28 PM
I wouldn't have voted for Broomhilda if she were the last nuclear cockroach. Try again, champ.

so who did you voted for 'smaller' champ ?


norland2424

Quote from: albrecht on November 13, 2016, 04:08:05 PM
I only bitch about it, not moan. Because give-aways like this encourage more illegals to come, help ruin our schools, drain our tax-money, etc. And we already give many millions in US aid (government and charitable) to their countries. Let the children eat their "free" meals there instead if their parents won't even bother to feed them dinner. Sometimes charity begins at home. Once all the CITIZENS, including children and adults, and even some vets, aren't hungry why give it away to illegals?

no kid should go hungry, and lol wtf are you on, illegals will come here regardless of your districts lunch and dinner program. i rather trump stop all forigen aid programs then take away shitty school lunches that are worst quality then the chow prisoners get in prisons.

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