When did you turn on George?

[Lunger]

The frustration of him not representing me and my unspoken logical next question, "...the alien spoke?  What did he say?"  Instead of "...the alien spoke and more about aliens speaking after the break....and it's George Noory here with XXXX talking about his alien encounter.  Tell us, XXXX, what is your website?  mmmm, yes and the title of your book?" 

And I'm clawing the radio-- WHAT DID THE F**G ALIEN SAY?

....

That is exactly right!

George has zero interview skills.  None at all.  He will miss opportunity after opportunity to get to the obvious next question.

He doesn't pay any attention is why.  He also has no curiosity unless it has to do with the upcomming death of many people.  Then he is all ears.

I remember the spit-take I did when that Idiot Norry once said on the air that he did 8 hours of show prep every day.  I would just be happy if he were to just read through his opening monologue once before airtime instead of reading it cold.

[aldousburbank]

George has zero interview skills.  None at all.  He will miss opportunity after opportunity to get to the obvious next question.

He doesn't pay any attention is why.  He also has no curiosity unless it has to do with the upcomming death of many people.  Then he is all ears.

I remember the spit-take I did when that Idiot Norry once said on the air that he did 8 hours of show prep every day.  I would just be happy if he were to just read through his opening monologue once before airtime instead of reading it cold.

Lunger,

Excellent!  I think that George should keep this post attached to his slobbery microphone.  It might help him.

[Lunger]

yeah this one's pretty over the top.  i fail to see the connection.  maybe i need to watch more footage of Alex Jones lurking in bushes and pacing around security fences outside utility buildings

Its a prophetic voice of doom!

Doooooom!

[jinwicked]

As a lifelong insomniac, I started listening to Coast to Coast AM in the late 90s.

I always loved Art. I remember crying while listening to him talk about the death of Ramona.

As he hosted the show less and less frequently, I was relatively neutral to the others, including Noory.

I think it was with the rise of the Ron Paul/Tea Party phenomenon in 2008 that I finally lost my patience.

I am so weary of the Beck-lite, pseudo-Evangelical, End Times proselytization. Gold! Seeds! E-Food!

Smugly mocking skeptics, the steady parade recently of vaccine-deniers and snake-oil pushers.

It is not entertaining anymore. This misinformation hurts people. I miss aliens and ghosts.

Also I really cannot stand Glynis McCants and her audio kissy shit with Noory.

[Mops]

The first time George interviewed Quayle.  The country was still white-knuckled over 911 but George let Quayle go into orbit unchecked and panic listeners into believing that something unthinkable - maybe several things - were about to happen at any moment that night.  Imaginations went wild and frightened listeners called one after another almost pleading for help.  At the peak of the fear mongering, George let out a self-satisfied laugh and said, "It's just like War of the Worlds all over again!!!!" 

[JeffreyLXV]

Sure, if you become a streamlink member, now called "Coast Insiders" in a transparent appeal to vanity, you can listen like I do--without commercials and whenever I please.  Plus I have an organized library to share.  For bumper music, I play arts, which Mike put up on one of his websites and it's terrific.

http://www.mikevandeven.com/

Thanks Anagrammy...  I look forward to listening to the music    

...Red Rubber Ball sux's to the nth degree...  I didn't think that way a few years ago...  Noory is like a cancer.

[Roger]

Well, I can relate to some of these threads hereinabove.

Yet, I didn't see any reference to that night when Art Bell most
insistently asserted "George gets it".

I had already begun to really lift my eyebrow at Art Bell in a kind of
final manner.

It, my eyebrow, was already rising ere then due to the way he interrupted
guests in mid-sentence.  This was especially irksome when they were in
the process of divulging some unpublished but personal experience.

Then after Art's digression or side comment, he'd tell the guest: we'll
get back to that after the break.  The ever interrupting break.

And usually the return from the break resulted in a completely new
trend of discussion.

Some of these divulsions by guests are not going to be found in any book.

I'm not some star-eyed adorer of Art Bell.  Far from it.  He had something
going that he literally threw down to the ground.

Or shall we say, who promoted him had something going, and he or she or
they cast down?

I could understand Bell wanting out of the press of that, and that
what he was doing really was WORK.  He did his work, and his work had
not a little amount of facility, or 'art' in it.

I reserve the right to say it wasn't graceful, but it was skilled.

Any 'grace' that ever happened was accidental, obviously, or he wouldn't have
said "George gets it" as he 'handed over the reins'.

I don't know, but doesn't anyone but me think he wasn't 'handing over the
reins' but having the reins taken from him?

Well, George would tell us that 'God' was doing it.

And George is very careful to say he doesn't compare to Art.

Yet now we have times when a 'producer' reads questions from listeners
as if queries to a 'guru'.

Insult upon insult is when this circumstantial positioning of a figure
is positioned in a 'documentary' as if he were an expert or 'scholar'
due to popular notions.

I'm sorry, that wouldn't have had to be said, except someone, maybe innocent
took the bait of a very 'clever' and duplicitous proposition.

It is encumbant on friends to tell friends about their being 'played'.

To say nothing would be, while anyone is aware, nothing short of being
complicit.

Then the question will be: who is being complicit?

A 'host', producers, or listeners?

When something is unjust and yet survives by purchase, what is the bottom
line?

Who, having an exit, stays in a gas chamber?

What does 'Boycott' mean?

What does 'embargo' mean?

No doubt suggestions of these powerful and non-violent methods of change
have engendered to like 'geniuses' as these behind this tripe the typical
threats and perhaps even acts of violence.

It is not unknown.

There is little more powerful than radio and the printed media for those
who enjoy profit due to popular hypnosis. That 'little' is self-awareness.
Awareness of what we like, what we dislike, and abstaining from expenditure
to what we dislike.  That is very powerful.

No matter what, even more powerful than any threat will be: turn it off,
kill your tv, tend to your own ideals, shut their propoganda out. Dispute
it. Excoriate it. Shine the glaring light of exposure or public consciousness
on it.

Do a 'lens' on it.

Nothing dishonest can stand the light of examination.

When it comes to the UNKNOWN, those who pretend to have any certainty
about it have only two choices: to admit: don't know, don't understand;
or assert that they know and it is only a matter of time when all will
know as they do.

This, our principle of self-government, isn't about 'certainty' except
about freedom to make enquiry about all things.

Business, ability to make, do and feed and eat subserved this freedom,
wasn't the foundation of this freedom.  Yet where business was restricted
by so-called 'class' or privilege or caste or genetic lineage, that urge
for freedom asserted, and so this country cut itself off from the old
world.

I contend that the basis here was uncertainty and recognition of a great
and gloriously black UNKNOWN.  Every little spark of light or new-found
understanding was a 'star'.  Tiny, but comforting. Yet we seemed to realize
that such little insights could never engulf the greater back-drop:
ignorance.  We are ever ignorant.  We must explore and be willing to
know: wow, what's out there, it is so big, so strange.  Our basic
goodness in us prompts a faith: it can't be all bad.  Yet we would be
unwise not be hesitant and rush headlong in that way.  We dip our toes
in the waters.  Might be dangerous, could be good.  We don't know. Not for
sure, till we go.

[Roger]

Oh, and by the way, 'business' can never help us away or out into outer
space, since business is a matter of diversity.  It will take a global
will, irrespective of regular business or competition, martialing all
such diverse arts and sciences to a general curiosity to get far and
beyond.  If I were an advanced alien, I would do everything in my power
to restrict privitized extention beyond the limits of any globe, since
it would be a form of an expanding takings.  Curiosity isn't like that.

Business can follow afterwards maybe. The leading thing isn't
takings or tradings.  Reception.

Curiosity expands even after the stomach is full. It is a higher kind
of thing, a higher love. Maybe not even a giving. Definitely, though,
not an issue of takings. It is a higher love. A different form
of hunger. Just to move. A going.

[George sucks]

The reasons for "turning on" George are well stated and comprehensive in this thread. To reiterate something already demonstrated previously, something I find particularly egregious, is his failure to ask the obvious question when needed. I mean, if you can't grasp the obvious c'mon. Get the hell out and let someone willing to do the job right do it.

Even when it is dropped squarely in his lap, when the guest is begging him to ask the question with their final statement before handing it back to George to talk, he still resorts to his cue cards. And then asks some irrelevant, mundane question. And he asks it in his overblown, sappy, fake style to try to make the question sound important.

The most recent example I've heard was when he had the guest on regarding the recently discovered codexes. The guests position was that they were fakes. The guest made the statement, "There are many reasons I believe they are fake." Does George ask "What are those reasons?" No. He asks "Why would someone do that?" For the money! Inability to grasp the obvious.

[Roger]

Finding thesep pages is a relief. So it's getting better perusing here when
after moving the dial up and down and sometimes stopping at C2C, hoping
there is some stand-in host only to find the drivel continues.

Yet tonight, was a potentially interesting guest.  Yet, somehow it wasn't
interesting.  When a caller called in about the claims of Corso and
'backwards engineering' and 'innovations' of things from supposedly
alien visitors, the guest put forth a pretty interesting reply.

My thoughts raced back to how Art might have taken this guests' reply,
and his ability
in prefacing a comment I could sense a THOUGHT PROCESS happened
right in the moment there, and simultaneously a musing of some
kind was developing right there on the radio.  There was an
entrainment of thinking going on
and not just between Art and a guest, but within me suspending all mental
noise of personal thought so as to key into what was developiny in that
instant.

'Course, that didn't happen tonight.  It was, as has been noted here numerous
times, it was as if the feeling was: 'ah, good got that out of the way,
here's an new tangent.'

No reflection on that call, the reply . . . nothin'.

I think I found the perfect word to describe this method: compartmentalization.

It's a bee-hive platform: one cell whose contents have no direct contact with its' neighbors,
no continuity of mood or trend of interest.  No chance at the end anyone
can say: 'whew! what an intriquing show, how fascinating!'

I think habitual listening to this is brain-damaging.

Lest personal consciousness should habitually be entrained into
that hyper-active, attention-deficit, shallow
fashion of thought.

Damn. What a waste. The night is gone. Gone!

[rkowna]

Finding thesep pages is a relief. So it's getting better perusing here when
after moving the dial up and down and sometimes stopping at C2C, hoping
there is some stand-in host only to find the drivel continues.

Yet tonight, was a potentially interesting guest.  Yet, somehow it wasn't
interesting.  When a caller called in about the claims of Corso and
'backwards engineering' and 'innovations' of things from supposedly
alien visitors, the guest put forth a pretty interesting reply.

My thoughts raced back to how Art might have taken this guests' reply,
and his ability
in prefacing a comment I could sense a THOUGHT PROCESS happened
right in the moment there, and simultaneously a musing of some
kind was developing right there on the radio.  There was an
entrainment of thinking going on
and not just between Art and a guest, but within me suspending all mental
noise of personal thought so as to key into what was developiny in that
instant.

'Course, that didn't happen tonight.  It was, as has been noted here numerous
times, it was as if the feeling was: 'ah, good got that out of the way,
here's an new tangent.'

No reflection on that call, the reply . . . nothin'.

I think I found the perfect word to describe this method: compartmentalization.

It's a bee-hive platform: one cell whose contents have no direct contact with its' neighbors,
no continuity of mood or trend of interest.  No chance at the end anyone
can say: 'whew! what an intriquing show, how fascinating!'

I think habitual listening to this is brain-damaging.

Lest personal consciousness should habitually be entrained into
that hyper-active, attention-deficit, shallow
fashion of thought.

Damn. What a waste. The night is gone. Gone!

Beehive sums it up perfectly.  And your theory about listening causes brain damage is spot on also.  A coule nights ago a listener wanted to say documentary.  He said, phonetically, docuemn-terry.  George is the human stump.  He is a scouge on humanity. 

[rkowna]

That is exactly right!

George has zero interview skills.  None at all.  He will miss opportunity after opportunity to get to the obvious next question.

He doesn't pay any attention is why.  He also has no curiosity unless it has to do with the upcomming death of many people.  Then he is all ears.

I remember the spit-take I did when that Idiot Norry once said on the air that he did 8 hours of show prep every day.  I would just be happy if he were to just read through his opening monologue once before airtime instead of reading it cold.

Spot on.  Years ago in Chicago there was a guy who the police would call in when there was a hostage situation because the guy was so good with interviews criminals would request him.  His name was Russ Ewing and he could talk his way out of anywhere.

Flash forward to George.  A hostage situation, similar to Russ. Whereas Russ had focus, George would say, the police cut off power to the building.  I bet you guys wish you had a hand crank radio and some survival food.  Then after 10 minutes of commercials he would come back, ask the hostages if they saw any UFO's during the break, and go to Richard Hoagland who has important news from a conference he chaired at a Hampton Inn in Des Moines, Iowa.   

[b_dubb]

A hostage situation, similar to Russ. Whereas Russ had focus, George would say, the police cut off power to the building.  I bet you guys wish you had a hand crank radio and some survival food.  Then after 10 minutes of commercials he would come back, ask the hostages if they saw any UFO's during the break, and go to Richard Hoagland who has important news from a conference he chaired at a Hampton Inn in Des Moines, Iowa.

LOL


Richard would probably rant about the continental breakfast being laced with alien mind control dna

[Roger]

Heh heh. If DNA has commercial value, you can be sure George will be
hawking it.  I would guess the lead-line will be: do you have enough
DNA? (Some commercial interest) has it for you! Trust me, I've tried
this product, and my DNA has vastly improved! Just mention 'George'
and get the discount!

[Roger]

Wisdom bends chance so as not to compel, and time bends
wisdom so all ends well.

Every hoper looks to an above.

Patience bearing on, enduring all:

time, then, must be love.

[rkowna]

I went to the Cubs game tonight had a few beers, and this headline grabbed me.  George won't admit it but I turned George on when I skyped him with leather chaps with the ass cut out while I was singing More than this by spandeu ballet.  I saw his moustache twitch

[morphiaflow]

My turn was gradual and preceded by apathy. His first few years, I'd say even up to about 2006, he didn't seem to betray as much bias or incompetence as he has since displayed. I think he was honestly making a genuine effort at that time and that his props to Art were not just lip service. And he wasn't as politicized as he has since become.

I only listened intermittently in 2007-08 because I had a lot going on, but by the time I started listening regularly again, it was clear the shift had occurred. Repetitious guests and topics, same old questions and answers, and an increasingly anti-intellectual tone.

This was coupled with an obviously rising allegiance to a certain political/religious mentality--I've dubbed it elsewhere the "Birther and Young Earther" mindset. Abiotic oil, environmental denial, a fundamentalist/evangelical take on the inevitable apocalypse (all those "mark of the beast" shows with Katherine Austin Fitts!), all the border and middle east paranoia with Jerome Corsi, and just a generally increasingly fringe-right mentality, WITHOUT any balance or levity whatsoever. And fewer and fewer esoteric, metaphysical, occult or paranormal topics--and when they DID come up, he would find a way to politicize THEM!

When it became clear that by this time it was Coast in name only, and Art was only doing 10-15 episodes a year, and the Noory had basically become a tool of the nascent Tea Party, I begged off. And when Art called it quits once and for all, so did I.

I'll still tune in if I'm in the car at night, but if it's a Noory night, I seldom leave it on long. It's a bad sign when you can anticipate everything the host is going to say!

I'll listen to Knapp anytime, and Punnet some of the time, and I'll gladly tune in should Art ever return in some form or forum, as we all would I think. But Mr. Noory's best and most listenable days, such as they were, are a half decade in the past and fading fast.

[RealCool Daddio]

My turn was gradual and preceded by apathy. His first few years, I'd say even up to about 2006, he didn't seem to betray as much bias or incompetence...

I think 2006 is about when I stopped listening to him as well.  I was never really a fan, but I seem to remember him being a bit more engaged earlier in his tenure.  The odd time I catch him now, always by accident, it's just... I don't know...dire.

Seems like Knapp is dropping in quality, too.  His last show with Cotterel was the pits.  We used to be able to count on him to be the most journalistic of the bunch, but he let this Maurice guy spew nonsense unchallenged for the whole show.  In the first quarter, the guy claimed to have discovered gravity, for crying out loud!  He later claimed that the reason he could't get published in scientific journals was because they required too much math. No kidding, math huh?  Elitist bastards!

How Knapp could let him get away with it is beyond me.  Maybe the producer's are clamping down on any hint of challenging the guests, I don't know. 

Or with his injury, maybe he was just all hopped up on pain meds and pudding.

[Quinn]

I'd say the last straw came around the time of that whole ouija board ordeal when Snoory was just agonizing over whether or not he would use a ouija board on-air or not.

He had all sorts of guests and listeners "weighing in" on why he should or shouldn't do it (for WEEKS. It was absolute torture having to listen to it every night), and finally on the night he was set to actually do it BAM! "I've decided NOT to do it. For the sake of my listeners. It's their safety that I'm concerned about. I don't want any energies coming through and harming them."

Gee, thanks George. Could you have maybe spared us all the build-up to nothing?

[b_dubb]

george is such a child. a fake child.  cause he doesn't really give a shit about his listeners.  but he wants them to think he cares.  what a fake fake fuck

[Treading Water]

Slowly, very slowly.  I think when I started listening, Art was already on his way out.  So I wasn't too disappointed in GN....I really had nothing to compare him to.  Can't come up with an "exactly when".  And I'm not very angry about it, just feel sort of "eh".

However, I'm becoming increasingly angry with GK.  This Sunday he's set to have a guest who has a WEBSITE, imagine that.  I clicked the link...............I DON'T KNOW WHY!!!!!!!......This asswipe is selling the secret to survival for $29.99 a year.  Good to know he thinks there will be YEARS to come.  And I don't know why I'm so upset over this guy's site.  After all, Linda and the rest also charge for info.  There's just "something" about this one.

Anyone else see it yet?  Am I overreacting?  Am I just being a douche? 

I think I'll take a nap.  Maybe I'll be in a better mood when I wake up..........

[b_dubb]

i too want to slap the guy who yells FIRE in a crowded theater.  which is basically what these doomsayers are doing.  except they're charging $$$ to get out

[Quinn]

And there you have it. Coast to Coast has changed from being an informative, entertaining show wrapped in mystery to yet another program obsessed with profits. I think that is the basic difference between Bell and Noory.

Bell has a background in radio and is interested in keeping the show compelling. Noory has a background in broadcast journalism. Therefore, Noory's philosophy is "get as many listeners as we can so we can get the highest ratings." How do you get more listeners? Dumb down the show so the masses can comprehend it. I still remember one time when J.C. called in and Noory told him, "Well, I expect you would be listening - it's a highly rated show!" Ugh.

[HorrorReporter]

Anyone happen to hear the caller do an impression of Art Bell during open lines Friday night? After the impression Noory added in mocking tone 'let's go to break hah' .. I say the guy's got nerve or no common sense.. But I think too his callers are really getting to him when they bring up Art

[fysisist]

I wasn't an avid listener when the change occurred.  I knew AB was back and forth from retirement, there were various guest hosts, but then it seemed like one day I turned on the show and there he was, some guy name George Noory.  Never heard of the schmuck. 

At first he seemed like a hapless but likeable type of fellow, clearly out of his element.  Didn't take long to catch on, though.  He gives less than a sh!t about the show if you can go by his totally obvious lack of preparation.  That plus the fact that the call screener only puts GN sycophants on the air.  I've never tried to call, but I imagine that they have a vast caller ID database that shows any call who has ever even hinted at a disparaging comment.  AB had some weird ideas and was clearly somewhat of an ego-maniac but he was a fearless and engaging interviewer and a true on-air personality.  Noory couldn't lift Art's jockstrap.  I hope the bastard chokes on all the free e-food and diet supplements he must be swimming in.  He's a life support system for that ridiculous mustache. 

[Roger]

IF you can get through all the screening, and actually get on the phone
with george, it could go like this:

"AM I ON?  Oh, gosh! Okay, okay: first time listener, long time caller . . .
no! No, wait! er LONG time caller, first time LISTEn....NO! Long time
listner . . . I'm a little nervous! FIRST TIME CALLER. Art? Art, we just
love . . . wait, what??!!!

George? George who now?

This isn't Art? Art Bell . . . I'm calling
Art Bell.  Isn't this Purump Nevada? Art BEll?

Oh, am I still being screened?

Wait, is this a joke?

I'm trying to reach Art Bell.  I've been listening to your show
Somewhere In Time all evening!  What a great show!

What? George Noorie?  Who the hell are you?

[Roger]

Of course, that wouldn't happen, since 'Somewhere In Time' with Art Bell
plays on Saturdays for regular listeners in the Great Northwest. And you'd
have to adjust it for whoever that guy is on Saturdays on c2c. Some preacher.

[Roger]

"Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants â€" but debt is the money of slaves"

Hmmm.  That's an interesting dogma.

Isn't it that fullest information is sequestered by tyrants, secured by
paid violent types, and leaks are punishable by death or starvation?

Gold, silver, barterings and debts notwithstanding: information is
uppermost. The thing of importance is not caste or station: but that
information be factual, true and actionable to good ends. Such is what
throws down all tyranny and slavish devotion to so-called norms.

Collect all the gold you want, but if it stands for a lie and mean
character: dirt is better. Then worms are richer than so-called 'kings'.

[Saffy]

Not only was the content  dumbed down on an intellectual level but actually spoken in a manner similar to  how some people speak to children.  It's insulting.

A very perceptive analysis. My mother was a special education teacher for over 20 years, and one cannot talk to these children in the same way one can talk to a "normal" child. Because she spent so much of her time around children with weaker intelligences, that cadence, pronunciation and voice inflexion that you mentioned became a part of her. My mother routinely began to talk to my father, myself, her friends, even the order-taker at McDonald's in the same way she would talk to her "special" children. It really grated on our nerves, especially when my mother would over-explain even the simplest of tasks because that was what she was used to.

Therefore, when I began hearing George more often, it instantly clicked:  He talks to the audience the way my mother talks to her family or the way a special education teacher would talk to her class. It is polite to the point of condescension and extremely "milquetoasty."  Art had a much rougher edge and I enjoyed that, but George would be better served hosting Romper Room. I can see him looking through his magic mirror and saying, "Hoagland, and Dames and Linda Howell, I have a medicine that is good for your bowel!"

When did I turn on George? Fact is, I never really cared for him to begin with, and I rarely listened to weekend shows while Art was at the helm. But what clued me into the disaster that was about to unfold was how desperate Art sounded as he tried to convince us that "George is someone who gets it."  Remember that? Art was always saying that George "gets it."

Personally I think Art knew even then that George did not, in fact, "get it" and poor Art also understood that, to save his beloved show, he would have to butter our bread a little and put a spit polish on that turd. As Art gushed about George during his final months, it sounded suspiciously like he was trying to convince himself as much as the audience that George really would make a good host.

The second strike occurred when George deliberately and consistently ignored the members of the official Coast to Coast forum and heaped praise and shout-outs onto the Fantastic Forum. Way to diss your paying customers, George! I know a lot of people began to turn on Noory at this point. Quite often George would feature questions and comments posted at the Fantastic Forum but never gave the official forum even a glance. That was infuriating.

Yet I continued to listen through the years, though I was far more surgically selective in choosing which shows to listen to. At least the content and the guests hadn't changed much.

But the coup de grace came when I began to realize that the focus of the show was changing to a more mainstream format. There were tons of shows on mundane politics, global issues like terrorism and environmentalism, economics, and worse still, interviews with guests that had nothing to do with the esoteric. The show began to feel more like NPR or a television talk show. Gee, George, why are you interviewing minor or has-been celebrities about their showbiz careers?

In addition, his bias for certain subjects like conspiracies, End Times, and consciousness/spiritualism really began to affect the content of the show. If it wasn't an interview with a political talking head or an expert on economics, it was another nutjob ranting about the End Times, Revelations, the Bible, and tying every raindrop and thunderclap in with our impending doom.

I didn't unsubscribe to Streamlink or quit in a huff. I simply stopped listening little by little until I didn't even bother checking the C2C website anymore. My subscription had lapsed months ago and I never even noticed.

I recently re-upped my subscription since enough classic shows have piled up to make the $7 worth paying, but once I've exhausted the classic shows, I'll probably cancel it for another 6 months or so.

[Scully]

You nailed it, Saffy!  Great post.

I'm fascinated to hear about the special way of speaking your mother developed in her profession, and how it translates exactly to Noory's manner of addressing all us special needs people. That part of what I don't like about his on-air personna, I couldn't quite tag.  Now I know.