Live Shooters Las Vegas Several Dead at Mandalay Bay

[GravitySucks]

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/10/174828/caleb-skeeter-las-vegas-shooting-gun-control-changed-mind

Once someone decides to break the law, beginning with possibly buying illegal mods or automatic weapons, breaking out windows in a hotel room with a hammer, moving to mass murder and attempted mass murder, what makes you think they are willing to be disuaded by a gun law?  You said it before. This guy was on noones radar. But it seems like he had the money to circumvent a lot of laws.

Once the wall is built, illegal immigration and smuggling brought under control, get back to me and I will still say we have enough laws. We need enforcement of existing laws.

[=Schlyder=]

There would be radial spray behind his head onto the carpet...there is none.

not necessarily.   I have had to reclaim items from a van after the driver put a bullet in his head.  No spatter to speak of on the exit side of the head.... just a large pool where the blood pumped out of his gourd, on the entry side.   It was a 9mm 

[Swishypants]

No, you're just really not worth the time and effort. You're obviously some pathetic manchild playing war. 

You make me sound like a GENERAL! LOL!

[Yorkshire pud]

Once someone decides to break the law, beginning with possibly buying illegal mods or automatic weapons, breaking out windows in a hotel room with a hammer, moving to mass murder and attempted mass murder, what makes you think they are willing to be disuaded by a gun law?  You said it before. This guy was on noones radar. But it seems like he had the money to circumvent a lot of laws.

Once the wall is built, illegal immigration and smuggling brought under control, get back to me and I will still say we have enough laws. We need enforcement of existing laws.

...The difference in murder will be negligible. Then what?

[Swishypants]

There would be radial spray behind his head onto the carpet...there is none.

Not if it was a  .22 or .380!

[Dr. MD MD]

You make me sound like a GENERAL! LOL!

What don't you understand about manchild? They don't make them generals. In fact, the whole system is defined to shit them (you) out pretty quickly.

[chefist]

well it doesn't seem to be on his neck in the photo of him leaking on the carpet.

A possibility. He was also said to be quite slovenly...as in his 2011 "fall" at the Cosmopolitan. My first thought at seeing the marks on his neck were that is was something that ran down from his mouth.

Here is an example of such putridity...

[GravitySucks]

...The difference in murder will be negligible. Then what?

You are on drugs. Add up all the homicides and include deaths due to DWIs from illegals and any drug related deaths. What do you consider negligible?  5 MS-13 members living on your street?

Now add up all the burglaries and rapes committed by illegals.

There is a reason that so many illegals are in prison. Per capita they commit more violent crime. They are not in prison for swimming the Rio Grande or using someone else’s SSN.

[=Schlyder=]

A possibility. He was also said to be quite slovenly...as in his 2011 "fall" at the Cosmopolitan. My first thought at seeing the marks on his neck were that is was something that ran down from his mouth.

Here is an example of such putridity...

so why are they cropping that photo like that? after the other has been released already.. but after the one of him post trepanation.

[chefist]

Not if it was a  .22 or .380!

Not true...a shot through the mouth offers a path for exit for a .22...straight through.

[Walks_At_Night]

A possibility. He was also said to be quite slovenly...as in his 2011 "fall" at the Cosmopolitan. My first thought at seeing the marks on his neck were that is was something that ran down from his mouth.

Here is an example of such putridity...

Ah Christ Chefist.  I just finished Supper..................

[Swishypants]

What don't you understand about manchild? They don't make them generals. In fact, the whole system is defined to shit them (you) out pretty quickly.

I'm speechless! Wait, Clone Asshole Gene's activating...

IT's NOT the fucking Boy Scouts RICHIE! Generals are made through being from the right family, falsifying data, lobbying for Defense Contractors, Playing Racketball, Swilling Scotch, and sucking your superiors cock behind a closed office door after his wife finds out about his girlfriend and he can't slip out an bang her at lunch for a quick NUT!

And "Manchild?" YOU'RE ON FUCKING BELLGAB MOTHERFUCKER! You're the most hated fat sack of shit on this forum until I came along and once you saw that I could speak Pud's fucked-up Lizard Language you started getting nervous that I may not be a temporary inconvenience to your lonesome spot-light! You're going to have to move Dr. Poopyshoes! Ta-Ta!

[Yorkshire pud]

You are on drugs. Add up all the homicides and include deaths due to DWIs from illegals and any drug related deaths. What do you consider negligible?  5 MS-13 members living on your street?

Now add up all the burglaries and rapes committed by illegals.

There is a reason that so many illegals are in prison. Per capita they commit more violent crime. They are not in prison for swimming the Rio Grande or using someone else’s SSN.

No they don't.

https://qz.com/895624/how-much-crime-is-committed-by-immigrants/

According to the Bureau of Justice Services, of the 1,574,700 prisoners detained in state and federal prisons in 2013, 73,665 were foreign-born (p.20). That makes it 4.6% of the prison population, versus a total immigrant population of 13.3%, both legal and undocumented. Further, according to an American Immigration Council analysis of Census data, 1.6% of all immigrant men aged 18 to 39 were imprisoned, while the US-born rate was twice has high, at 3.3%.

No-one saying it isn't high, but it isn't the overwhelming majority per capita. There are other sources, but you'll say its fake news because Trump didn't say it.

[Swishypants]

Not true...a shot through the mouth offers a path for exit for a .22...straight through.

GOD Damnit! Look Mr. Wizard, if there is one thing both you and I know is that "BULLETS DO WEIRD SHIT!" I'm respecting your authority, kinda, but you're a terrible hostess! Nobody is solving any mysteries on this douche-bag forum and you're suckin' out all the FUN!   It was OBVIOUSLY a .22 SHORT!

[GravitySucks]

No they don't.

https://qz.com/895624/how-much-crime-is-committed-by-immigrants/

No-one saying it isn't high, but it isn't the overwhelming majority per capita. There are other sources, but you'll say its fake news because Trump didn't say it.

I will say government statistics will always provide much lower numbers for illegal immigrants than is reality, these numbers you cite include all crime. I said violent crime. And the prison numbers do not include the ones that are deported in lieu of imprisonment.

[ItsOver]

Ah Christ Chefist.  I just finished Supper..................

Gag, choke.  Can we PLEASE just stick to gun shots to the head.

[GravitySucks]

No they don't.

https://qz.com/895624/how-much-crime-is-committed-by-immigrants/

No-one saying it isn't high, but it isn't the overwhelming majority per capita. There are other sources, but you'll say its fake news because Trump didn't say it.

You won’t believe this because it is Breitbart.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/07/illegal-immigrants-accounted-for-nearly-37-percent-of-federal-sentences-in-fy-2014/

[crescent fresh]

No they don't.

https://qz.com/895624/how-much-crime-is-committed-by-immigrants/

No-one saying it isn't high, but it isn't the overwhelming majority per capita. There are other sources, but you'll say its fake news because Trump didn't say it.

Most states put illegals into the system as "White" because they don't have "Hispanic" as an option FBI does the same thing. The federal government started doing it in the mid-70s. It's almost a approach to cover the truth that whites are committing crimes on the lowest cost of any important race in the nation. It's undeniable and functional propaganda it's misleading.

[ItsOver]

Most states put illegals into the system as "White" because they don't have "Hispanic" as an option FBI does the same thing. The federal government started doing it in the mid-70s. It's almost a approach to cover the truth that whites are committing crimes on the lowest cost of any important race in the nation. It's undeniable and functional propaganda it's misleading.

Ah, just some more poor folks looking for a better life.

[Dr. MD MD]

Ah, just some more poor folks looking for a better life.

Yeah and you better give it to them or they'll fuck you up, Holmes. 

[starrmtn001]

I will say government statistics will always provide much lower numbers for illegal immigrants than in reality, these numbers you cite include all crime. I said violent crime. And the prison numbers do not include the ones that are deported in lieu of imprisonment.

Exactly!

[Up All Night]

As predicted, Alex Jones is already doing his best to monetize the Las Vegas shooting.  What an asshole.  Just Google Alex Jones Las Vegas shooting and you'll see the infoworld cash machine spinning at full RPM.

Alex Jones: "Tell them, we're just doing out job!!"

But really, I see ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Liberal spin running at max rpms...

[Up All Night]

More Bullet Points from the Daily Mail:

New photos show Vegas shooter's dead body on the floor of his hotel room after he committed suicide
In the photo, Stephen Paddock wears a brown long-sleeved top, black slacks, loafers, and black gloves
Next to his body are two assault rifles with bi-pods; one has a 'bump stock', making it effectively full-auto
Dozens of spent shells litter the floor and in one corner magazines sit in neat stacks 
A hammer is also seen, which Paddock presumably used to smash open two windows in his suite
It was from both of those vantage points that Paddock fired on a crowd of 22,000 attending a music festival
He killed at least 59 people and injured 527 in the attack - the deadliest in U.S. history
Video from outside the hotel room shows bullets piercing the front door, from when Paddock shot at cops
He set up a camera on a room service cart outside the room to warn him when police were arriving
By the time a SWAT team blew open the door to the suite, Paddock had shot himself dead
Investigators are struggling to find a reason for why the millionaire retiree carried out the massacre
He had no criminal record, and his brother says he wasn't religious or political
He did, however, like gambling and in the two weeks prior had carried out several large figure bets
In the week before he died, he also wired $100,000 to an account in his girlfriend's native Philippines
Girlfriend Marilou Danley is back to being a person of interest and is en route back to the U.S. for questioning
On Tuesday, Las Vegas authorities say they had identified all but three of the 59 victims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4944234/Two-23-rifles-inside-Stephen-Paddock-s-room.html

[Swishypants]

This guy pulled off the PERFECT HIT. With no training. The country is now effectively ungovernable. Citizens now see that all the bullshit about Federal Security Forces is exactly that. One man, with the proper motivation and a small amount of money, can defeat them easily. All he has to do is be reasonably intelligent and willing to die.

I do not know what his motivations were, and no one ever will most likely. The next step is for people like this to operate against things that actually matter (i.e. not human targets).  The system of command and control has failed. How are we going to choose the kinds of people that CAN stop this? Because it's obvious the criteria we are using now produces only yes-men and bureaucracy. We need real MEAT EATERS with safeties off.  Everyone ready to deal with what comes along with that?

[Dr. MD MD]

This guy pulled off the PERFECT HIT. With no training. The country is now effectively ungovernable. Citizens now see that all the bullshit about Federal Security Forces is exactly that. One man, with the proper motivation and a small amount of money, can defeat them easily. All he has to do is be reasonably intelligent and willing to die.

I do not know what his motivations were, and no one ever will most likely. The next step is for people like this to operate against things that actually matter (i.e. not human targets).  The system of command and control has failed. How are we going to choose the kinds of people that CAN stop this? Because it's obvious the criteria we are using now produces only yes-men and bureaucracy. We need real MEAT EATERS with safeties off.  Everyone ready to deal with what comes along with that?

Hey, Mr Ayers. I didn't think you were a Bellgab member. 

[Lt.Uhura]

I will say government statistics will always provide much lower numbers for illegal immigrants than is reality, these numbers you cite include all crime. I said violent crime. And the prison numbers do not include the ones that are deported in lieu of imprisonment.

But when it comes to mass shootings and DUIs in the U.S, I think the old white guys have other groups beat. Like this one who holds the record for 28 DUIs! Why is he even out of jail?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4945954/Minnesota-man-arrested-record-TWENTY-EIGHT-DUIs.html

[Norm]

FACTS:

[starrmtn001]

FACTS:

+1 To Infinity!

[Norm]

But when it comes to mass shootings and DUIs in the U.S, I think the old white guys have other groups beat. Like this one who holds the record for 28 DUIs! Why is he even out of jail?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4945954/Minnesota-man-arrested-record-TWENTY-EIGHT-DUIs.html

You do realize of course how cold it gets up dere in the far north Margie?

A little nip now and then sure can take the bite off especially on really cold nights....

[GravitySucks]

But when it comes to mass shootings and DUIs in the U.S, I think the old white guys have other groups beat. Like this one who holds the record for 28 DUIs! Why is he even out of jail?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4945954/Minnesota-man-arrested-record-TWENTY-EIGHT-DUIs.html

He lives in the state that elected Al Franken.