Live Shooters Las Vegas Several Dead at Mandalay Bay

[Dr. MD MD]

Good to see you're on it Casey Jones. Now get fucked.

You can clearly see it in the vid, pud.

[Yorkshire pud]

I'm not up to speed with the various conspiracy theories (presumably there's more than one that contradicts the others?) regarding the massacre in LV. So break it down please; Who really did it? How many? Which alphabet agency do they work for (extra points for the exact department), When was it planned, and by whom (bonus points for ties to Clinton, Obama, McCain, Rachel Maddow and Angela Merkel), and an extra special award for showing how guns were not involved at all, and diagrams showing how chewing gum, swimming pools and a cheese grater were the main weapons.

Thank you.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'm not up to speed with the various conspiracy theories (presumably there's more than one that contradicts the others?) regarding the massacre in LV. So break it down please; Who really did it? How many? Which alphabet agency do they work for (extra points for the exact department), When was it planned, and by whom (bonus points for ties to Clinton, Obama, McCain, Rachel Maddow and Angela Merkel), and an extra special award for showing how guns were not involved at all, and diagrams showing how chewing gum, swimming pools and a cheese grater were the main weapons.

Thank you.

It's not a theory, just video evidence taken by an eye witness.  :

[Swishypants]

Page 23, the Illuminati page.

[Yorkshire pud]

You can clearly see it in the vid, pud.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

The 'author' of the piece....and some background... :

YourNewsWire (styled as YourNewsWire.com[1]) is an Los Angeles-based clickbait fake news website known for disseminating conspiracy theories and misleading information, contrary to its claimed motto (“News. Truth. Unfiltered”).[1]
According to Josh Boswell of The Sunday Times, Sean Adl-Tabatabai (a former television producer) is the owner and ‘Editor-in-chief’.[2] However, YourNewsWire also claims that it is owned by holding company called The People’s Voice (Incorporated), which is the name of their Facebook account.[3]
Carol Adl (the mother of Sean Adl-Tabatabai according to UK-based marketing magazine The Drum),[4] Edmundo Burr and Baxter Dmitry (who once stole the photo of a Latvian computer programmer[5]) are the website’s ‘staff writers’

Media Bias/Fact Check (MBFC) classifies YourNewsWire as ‘Conspiracy/Pseudoscience’, arguing that it “mixes” conspiracy theories with legitimate news,[7] presumably to confuse readers into believing in the conspiracy theories.
YourNewsWire appears to be pro-Russian: According to Boswell, the European Union’s East StratCom Task Force criticised YourNewsWire for using fake news to favour Russian policy. However, Joel Harding (a Kremlin propaganda expert) believed that Russians were using YourNewsWire as a mule or proxy to spread disinformation.[5]

On 24 May 2017, Snopes warned that YourNewsWire had a “long record of promoting false information”, after debunking a false claim (by YourNewsWire) that a suicide bombing attack at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, United Kingdom, was a hoax or an inside job.[8] YourNewsWire was one of the websites that promoted the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.
The Manchester attacks claim was the eighth time that Snopes debunked YourNewsWire, having previously chided them for falsely claiming that Adolf Hitler faked his suicide and escaped to Argentina, and that 25 Million Fraudulent Votes Were Cast for Hillary Clinton.[9][10]


Boswell of The Sunday Times also cited YourNewsWire for falsely claiming that Queen Elizabeth II threatened to abdicate if the United Kingdom voted to remain in the European Union.[2] It appears that the ‘abdication’ article was created to give YourNewsWire an excuse to claim that they were right when the UK did vote to leave the EU: however, Queen Elizabeth II would certainly do nothing regardless of the outcome.

YourNewsWire is unsurprisingly not ‘unfiltered’, as the website’s slogan claims: despite Sean and Sinclair Adl-Tabatabai performing one of the first ever same sex marriages in the United Kingdom in 2014,[11] YourNewsWire has to date not covered the Chechen crackdown on gay men:[12] the BBC and Reuters have already covered it.[

In addition to widespread criticism of YourNewsWire for publishing fake stories, Google banned the site from its advertising network, in response to The Sunday Times’ investigation.[4]
Despite the overwhelming evidence against YourNewsWire, Sean Adl-Tabatabai stubbornly insists that his website is “legitimate”, even going as far as to accuse The Sunday Times of “publishing fake news against him”.[4]

Hmmmmmm....

[Yorkshire pud]

It's not a theory, just video evidence taken by an eye witness.  :

Allegedly. And its now more than twenty four hours, so there's bound to be more than one. Honed from years of dribbling down t shirts in basements.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

The 'author' of the piece....and some background... :

Hmmmmmm....

I see. You're waiting to hear what your trusted sources say. You won't do anything without their go ahead. It's the lazy man's version of thinking. They'll tell you what to think as soon as they get their narrative together.  : 

[Yorkshire pud]

I see. You're waiting to hear what your trusted sources say. You won't do anything without their go ahead. It's the lazy man's version of thinking. They'll tell you what to think as soon as they get their narrative together.  : 

You get yours from debunked grifters who essentially collate other conspiracy theory websites, whose authors seldom see daylight....yes, I can see how that would work for you.

Its funny how a news channel gets one thing wrong and conspiracy theorists hang onto it like a dog with a bone. Its amazing then how they don't hold themselves to the same exacting standards, yeah, funny that.

[Dr. MD MD]

You get yours from debunked grifters who essentially collate other conspiracy theory websites, whose authors seldom see daylight....yes, I can see how that would work for you.

Its funny how a news channel gets one thing wrong and conspiracy theorists hang onto it like a dog with a bone. Its amazing then how they don't hold themselves to the same exacting standards, yeah, funny that.

Grifters? You mean like if a socialist from another country married an America citizen just to spread their shit here? 

[SredniVashtar]

Grifters? You mean like if a socialist from another country married an America citizen just to spread their shit here? 

You should call in the next time Chefist has a show and you can hash all this out with Yorkie.

[Swishypants]

Grifters? You mean like if a socialist from another country married an America citizen just to spread their shit here? 

Probably going to bomb John Waynes house too!

[Yorkshire pud]

You should call in the next time Chefist has a show and you can hash all this out with Yorkie.

I've suggested he do that, but for some reason he's too busy, although he listens. Funny that.

[SredniVashtar]

I've suggested he do that, but for some reason he's too busy, although he listens. Funny that.

Top theories:

1. He's a pussy
2. We will be able to tell he isn't American

Or a combination of both.

[Yorkshire pud]

Grifters? You mean like if a socialist from another country married an America citizen just to spread their shit here? 

Oh you accept I'm married now? When did you decide I was telling the truth afterall? 

[Swishypants]

Top theories:

1. He's a pussy
2. We will be able to tell he isn't American

Or a combination of both.

Both of them are pussies, but one squirts and the other just pees.

[Yorkshire pud]

Both of them are pussies, but one squirts and the other just pees.

You make it sound a bad thing.

[Swishypants]

You make it sound a bad thing.

BRO!? Do you even Victorian Social Convention?

[Yorkshire pud]

BRO!? Do you even Victorian Social Convention?

Only if I can't get to the weekly Edwardian corset lacing seminar, and only then if it falls on a third wednesday.

[Juan]

OK, theorists, there were lots of news pictures and video of the entire hotel. The only two broken windows were those on the 32nd floor. How did the bullets fired from the 10th floor, middle of the building, wherever else, get out through the window without breaking it.

[Swishypants]

OK, theorists, there were lots of news pictures and video of the entire hotel. The only two broken windows were those on the 32nd floor. How did the bullets fired from the 10th floor, middle of the building, wherever else, get out through the window without breaking it.

Runaway! 1984 Starring Magnum P.I. Real shit!

[ItsOver]

OK, theorists, there were lots of news pictures and video of the entire hotel. The only two broken windows were those on the 32nd floor. How did the bullets fired from the 10th floor, middle of the building, wherever else, get out through the window without breaking it.

No doubt a matter disruptor.  They then switched to regular arms, due to range limitations.  Apparently, Paddock didn't get the message.

[Gd5150]

OK, theorists, there were lots of news pictures and video of the entire hotel. The only two broken windows were those on the 32nd floor. How did the bullets fired from the 10th floor, middle of the building, wherever else, get out through the window without breaking it.

What's odd too, of all the cell phone video that captures the area where the broken windows are, there's no gun barrel flashes. The most used video is the one looking straight at the stage. The camera sweeps the hotel several times during the gunfire, but doesn't capture any gun barrel flashes. Shouldn't be a problem of brightness as those flashes are easily as bright as the lights on the building.

Also the person shooting video from the 46th floor Foundation Club should have easily seen the gun barrel flashes from the 32nd floor. I've been up there many times. Looking in the direction of where the stage was, you would easily hear and see the 32nd floor area where the windows were broken. From the video it's clear they had no idea what was going on. People were dots and scattering. Yet the gun barrel was only a few hundred feet away and maybe 90 degrees to the left down 10 floors. They should have seen the flashes. When I saw that 46th floor video first thing I thought was how did they not see the gunfire it's almost right in front of them?

[Yorkshire pud]

OK, theorists, there were lots of news pictures and video of the entire hotel. The only two broken windows were those on the 32nd floor. How did the bullets fired from the 10th floor, middle of the building, wherever else, get out through the window without breaking it.

Magic. That's how!!

[Yorkshire pud]

What's odd too, of all the cell phone video that captures the area where the broken windows are, there's no gun barrel flashes. The most used video is the one looking straight at the stage. The camera sweeps the hotel several times during the gunfire, but doesn't capture any gun barrel flashes. Shouldn't be a problem of brightness as those flashes are easily as bright as the lights on the building.

Also the person shooting video from the 46th floor Foundation Club should have easily seen the gun barrel flashes from the 32nd floor. I've been up there many times. Looking in the direction of where the stage was, you would easily hear and see the 32nd floor area where the windows were broken. From the video it's clear they had no idea what was going on. People were dots and scattering. Yet the gun barrel was only a few hundred feet away and maybe 90 degrees to the left down 10 floors. They should have seen the flashes. When I saw that 46th floor video first thing I thought was how did they not see the gunfire it's almost right in front of them?

Clearly a conspiracy! SHOULD have? Maybe they weren't looking. The layout of the area and the buildings, the sound would bounce around all over, so why look at something if the sound didn't seem to come from that direction? Or maybe they were just engrossed in something else? Either way, the conspiracy theorists won't accept anything they didn't get from another conspiracy theorist.

[GravitySucks]

What's odd too, of all the cell phone video that captures the area where the broken windows are, there's no gun barrel flashes. The most used video is the one looking straight at the stage. The camera sweeps the hotel several times during the gunfire, but doesn't capture any gun barrel flashes. Shouldn't be a problem of brightness as those flashes are easily as bright as the lights on the building.

Also the person shooting video from the 46th floor Foundation Club should have easily seen the gun barrel flashes from the 32nd floor. I've been up there many times. Looking in the direction of where the stage was, you would easily hear and see the 32nd floor area where the windows were broken. From the video it's clear they had no idea what was going on. People were dots and scattering. Yet the gun barrel was only a few hundred feet away and maybe 90 degrees to the left down 10 floors. They should have seen the flashes. When I saw that 46th floor video first thing I thought was how did they not see the gunfire it's almost right in front of them?

[Gd5150]

Don't work too well on automatic weapons. Which is what the shooter used, and are already illegal.

[Yorkshire pud]

No-one has yet said that if everyone on the ground had been armed, they'd have been able to defend themselves. That's the problem that overlooks that as soon as the police turn up, and they see the shooting, they can see their potential target (so can everyone else with a gun). How will they know that someone with a gun isn't the original assassin? They shoot people who reach for a wallet or give them a funny look, so you're on dangerous ground if you're carrying a firearm in an area where gun fire is reported.

[Yorkshire pud]

Don't work too well on automatic weapons. Which is what the shooter used, and are already illegal.

If they were only semi automatic, would the victims be less dead or injured? An ER medic asked.

[Juan]

If the shooter was a few feet inside, the muzzle flashes would not be visible from most angles.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

No-one has yet said that if everyone on the ground had been armed, they'd have been able to defend themselves. That's the problem that overlooks that as soon as the police turn up, and they see the shooting, they can see their potential target (so can everyone else with a gun). How will they know that someone with a gun isn't the original assassin? They shoot people who reach for a wallet or give them a funny look, so you're on dangerous ground if you're carrying a firearm in an area where gun fire is reported.

No one has said it yet, because in this particular scenario, it wouldn't have helped.  I don't think ANYONE can profess to know what type of shooting they may be involved in, or if being armed would help or not.  Neither should you Pudwick.