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Should awards be given to the dead poll

Started by Camazotz Automat, January 27, 2009, 12:24:36 AM

Should awards be given to the dead?

Yes
No
Sometimes
Be they actors, soldiers, writers, scientists, athletes, or leaders of the Fraternal Order of Eagles, Aerie No. 3108.





Centurion73

Fuck them, you die you're out of the running, why give a memory an award?

EvB

In the end ( as we know it) - it's all about the living.  Will acknowledging past greatness make us, the living, feel less loss?  Do the awards for the dead teach something about what we value?

I think those are good things. 

Frys Girl

I disagree. I am a big fan of 48 hours murder mysteries and I saw how a cold case was solved 15 years later - a female dental student had been raped and killed by her ex-boyfriend, who went on to graduate and set up a big dental practice. He killed his wife and the connection was found between the two murders. They awarded her a degree in memoriam (the girlfriend from 1988). Good! If you're referring to Heath Ledger, I think his performance was great. It was the entire movie, actually. He saved that movie, which was bound to be a large piece of crap sans Heath. So in this case, YES. Give him an award.

Centurion73

Fuck Heath, what award should he get first, the one where he was so selfish & uncaring that he left his daughter with nothing but a name and a legal fight or the one for being stupid enough to "accidentally" kill yourself?

That said, he did a good job in The Dark Night, but he hardly was a shinning light to society if anything give him the Darwin award.

EvB

Quote from: Centurion73 on January 27, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
Fuck Heath, what award should he get first, the one where he was so selfish & uncaring that he left his daughter with nothing but a name and a legal fight or the one for being stupid enough to "accidentally" kill yourself?

That said, he did a good job in The Dark Night, but he hardly was a shinning light to society if anything give him the Darwin award.

Good God!  What did Ledger do to piss in YOUR porridge?

It's very easy to scoff at "accidental" an overdoses - but are you saying they never happen?

As for Ledger's death - my own assumption (for what it's worth) has been that if he wanted to kill himself, he'd have taken a lot more of the drugs than he did - to be sure.


Centurion73

Quote from: EvB on January 27, 2009, 09:33:18 AM
Good God!  What did Ledger do to piss in YOUR porridge?

It's very easy to scoff at "accidental" an overdoses - but are you saying they never happen?

He did nothing to piss me off I just do not think it was such a great loss as most people seem to think.

Accidental? Intent follows the path of the bullet (in this case prescribed drug(s)) that may or may not have been issued to him and used outside of prescribed instructions, hence, intent.

Quotemy own assumption (for what it's worth) has been that if he wanted to kill himself, he'd have taken a lot more of the drugs than he did - to be sure.

Apparently the Mensa member took enough to do the job kudos to him.

www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/06/heath.ledger/index

"Mr. Heath Ledger died as the result of acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam, and doxylamine," the office said in a short statement.

"We have concluded that the manner of death is accident, resulting from the abuse of prescription medications."

" DEA spokesman Garrison Courtney said while declining to provide any specifics. "In any case, we look to see whether prescription drugs were illegally obtained or whether it was through proper channels."

Frys Girl

Quote from: Centurion73 on January 27, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
Fuck Heath, what award should he get first, the one where he was so selfish & uncaring that he left his daughter with nothing but a name and a legal fight or the one for being stupid enough to "accidentally" kill yourself?

That said, he did a good job in The Dark Night, but he hardly was a shinning light to society if anything give him the Darwin award.
God damn it. I can't disagree with you on this. When you have a kid, things are DIFFERENT. Your life/behavior must change to accommodate that child.

It's not 1850. There is contraception, but there's little caring anymore. But Heath's dead and everyone claims he was a fantastic father, so I won't knock him. One other reason I think he deserves this award is he made a TON of money for all parties involved. NOT TO MENTION, he made fans very happy. Though it's troubling to see this mall cop movie as number one (beverly hills chihuahua is troubling too). 

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Centurion73 on January 27, 2009, 11:09:05 AM
...I just do not think it was such a great loss as most people seem to think.
agreed, both professionally and personally.

Boomer

When you're Dead you're Dead, Gone, Ain't Comin Back! All those awards to the dead are just more politics between the living, ass kissin or whatever you want to call it.

Frys Girl

Quote from: Boomer on January 28, 2009, 07:11:06 AM
politics between the living
as in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. He made a ton of money for everyone.

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