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One Hundred Years Ago

Started by Rix Gins, January 01, 2016, 06:20:14 PM

Quote from: Rix Gins on May 02, 2016, 01:37:14 AM
Everett True, May 2, 1916.

I've noticed that Everett was quite the dedicated champion of decent treatment for the working man.  Good for him!

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 02, 2016, 07:39:44 AM
The entire program, what joy!  It sounds so entertaining, I'll take my turn with the time machine!  An evening of whistling sounded like a chore, but they have the sense to vary it considerably and, of course, it's an excuse to dance.


I noticed that the good Professor and his baritone horn were part of the program.  In keeping with the personality my imagination has created for him, I'm guessing he would have regarded the whistling as a frivolous, undignified waste of time.  :D

Rix Gins

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on May 02, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
I've noticed that Everett was quite the dedicated champion of decent treatment for the working man.  Good for him!

I noticed that too.  Unfortunately, I don't think it holds 'true' (ha, pun intended as Hoagie would say) in regards to Everett's office.  He seems to rule with an iron hand there.  lol

gabrielle

I'm not sure what this is, but I like the name.

GravitySucks

Quote from: gabrielle on May 02, 2016, 05:23:46 PM
I'm not sure what this is, but I like the name.

Take.my.money.

WhiteCrow

Built in 1916 $7,000.00
on the market today $475,000.00

Milwaukee Wisconsin


albrecht

Quote from: gabrielle on May 02, 2016, 05:23:46 PM
I'm not sure what this is, but I like the name.
"Jan 27, 2014
I don't know if anyone is still reading this post but I grew up in Orangeburg, NY and the Bell-Ans manufacturing company was less than a mile away from my house. It was a cluster of buildings on Greenbush Road, just off State Route 303. In the grassy area between 303 and Greenbush Road, there used to be a big sign with a red ball on top that said "Bell-Ans" though I can't remember what the rest of it said. The main building had the words "BELL-ANS" on the shingled roof in big capital letters. I still have a full bottle of Bell-Ans tablets with the original screw-on cap, the label, the box it came in, and even the cotton in the bottle between the tablets and the cap. The name Bell-Ans is also on the outside of the amber-colored rectangular bottle in raised letters.The pills are round and black and contain charcoal as one of the components. They were touted as cures for indigestion and other related stomach ailments. The full bottle was in my parents' medicine cabinet for many years until I finally removed it and added it to my old bottle collection. I also have an empty, cylindrical, amber-colored smaller Bell-Ans bottle with the name on the outside in raised letters, similar to the bottles pictured on e-Bay. I don't know much else about Bell-Ans and its history but I suspect it might have had a predecessor called Hollings-Smith Manufacturing Chemists. I have an old bottle from before 1900 with that name on it, along with the words "Orangeburg, New York, USA". After the plant closed they must have been renting space in the Bell-Ans complex because my father and a cousin had a wood shop there in which they made wooden trains for kids. Nearby was a horse-riding stable at the foot of the mountains and people would take the horses on the trails up the slopes or out on the track behind the stables. Adjacent to the stables were the former Rockland County Fairgrounds which stopped functioning sometime around the mid-1950s. I was very young while all this was happening there and don't remember too much from 55-60 years ago. A Volkswagen facility was later built where the Fairgrounds were and the stables shut down in the early '60s. Houses in the Bell-Ans Business Park were rented out by families and individuals at least up until the early 2000s and they may still be. I haven't been by there in over ten years. I've been living in New Orleans since 1981."
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orangeburg-ny/TGMR8QTBNLS318GJ4

gabrielle

Quote from: albrecht on May 02, 2016, 05:34:11 PM
"Jan 27, 2014
I don't know if anyone is still reading this post but I grew up in Orangeburg, NY and the Bell-Ans manufacturing company was less than a mile away from my house. It was a cluster of buildings on Greenbush Road, just off State Route 303. In the grassy area between 303 and Greenbush Road, there used to be a big sign with a red ball on top that said "Bell-Ans" though I can't remember what the rest of it said. The main building had the words "BELL-ANS" on the shingled roof in big capital letters. I still have a full bottle of Bell-Ans tablets with the original screw-on cap, the label, the box it came in, and even the cotton in the bottle between the tablets and the cap. The name Bell-Ans is also on the outside of the amber-colored rectangular bottle in raised letters.The pills are round and black and contain charcoal as one of the components. They were touted as cures for indigestion and other related stomach ailments. The full bottle was in my parents' medicine cabinet for many years until I finally removed it and added it to my old bottle collection. I also have an empty, cylindrical, amber-colored smaller Bell-Ans bottle with the name on the outside in raised letters, similar to the bottles pictured on e-Bay. I don't know much else about Bell-Ans and its history but I suspect it might have had a predecessor called Hollings-Smith Manufacturing Chemists. I have an old bottle from before 1900 with that name on it, along with the words "Orangeburg, New York, USA". After the plant closed they must have been renting space in the Bell-Ans complex because my father and a cousin had a wood shop there in which they made wooden trains for kids. Nearby was a horse-riding stable at the foot of the mountains and people would take the horses on the trails up the slopes or out on the track behind the stables. Adjacent to the stables were the former Rockland County Fairgrounds which stopped functioning sometime around the mid-1950s. I was very young while all this was happening there and don't remember too much from 55-60 years ago. A Volkswagen facility was later built where the Fairgrounds were and the stables shut down in the early '60s. Houses in the Bell-Ans Business Park were rented out by families and individuals at least up until the early 2000s and they may still be. I haven't been by there in over ten years. I've been living in New Orleans since 1981."
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orangeburg-ny/TGMR8QTBNLS318GJ4


Wow.  Thanks Albrecht, very informative.

Quote from: WhiteCrow on May 02, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
Built in 1916 $7,000.00
on the market today $475,000.00

Milwaukee Wisconsin

7 Grand in 1916?


Here is what 7k will do for you today in the D

You good with tools 'Crow?

Couple of "Handy Man Specials" for you

albrecht

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 02, 2016, 05:52:56 PM
You good with tools 'Crow?

Couple of "Handy Man Specials" for you
There are also crazy "deals" for stuff in upstate NY. It really sad that even some good houses, churches, buildings, factories built back when they were build well are abandoned and being bull-dozed and then, in my part of the country, the cheap houses and condos are being built faster than labor can keep up (ok not "cheap" but cheaply built on spec.)

Quote from: albrecht on May 02, 2016, 05:58:39 PM
There are also crazy "deals" for stuff in upstate NY. It really sad that even some good houses, churches, buildings, factories built back when they were build well are abandoned and being bull-dozed and then, in my part of the country, the cheap houses and condos are being built faster than labor can keep up (ok not "cheap" but cheaply built on spec.)

Same deal here.  Look at the masonry work on the Berkshire Street home above.   :-[

WhiteCrow

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 02, 2016, 05:49:51 PM
7 Grand in 1916?


Here is what 7k will do for you today in the D

As said I'm a Banker.. Paid by government to clean up failed banks.  Made deals with government on hundreds of those homes with mortgage loans many times real value on failed bank's  books. Negotiations start with how much the government will pay us to clean up failed bank's morgage loan portfolio mess. Sad situations .. Once that process starts, real estate values drop. Because we need to get them off our books as soon as possible for bargain prices.. If we don't, we get criticized by  government for having non preforming assets OREO on our books. Property values in area decline along with real estate taxes collected by municipalities .

DEFINITION of 'Other Real Estate Owned - OREO'
In bank accounting, this term refers to real property owned by a banking institution which is not directly related to its business. In balance sheet terms, other real estate owned (OREO) assets are considered non-earning assets for purposes of regulatory accounting.

BREAKING DOWN 'Other Real Estate Owned - OREO'
Other real estate owned is most frequently a result of foreclosure on real property as a result of default by the borrower who used the property as collateral for the loan. Most items in this category are available for sale. A growth in OREO is indicative of deteriorating credit for the bank with non-earning assets that are growing.








albrecht

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 02, 2016, 06:04:08 PM
Same deal here.  Look at the masonry work on the Berkshire Street home above.   :-[
Yeah, there are some good sites about Detroit, former factory towns in upstate NY, etc showing the houses, mansions, factories, churches, civic buildings etc in disrepair and abandoned that are such good craftsmanship. Having said that it is not just an American phenomena but several photographers who find same in the UK and Europe. So sad. But upkeep, or repair, particularly of large estates, is $$ and work/demographic changes. But still sad because they can put up some quickly built cookie-cutter condo or spec-build neighborhood by me and get big $$. Some condos just went up on the last remaining tract of what used to be a huge ranch. Blocking skyline and crappy looking going for 600K for a two bedroom and no yards. And not even downtown, so traffic will still be nuts for buyer. Crazy. And I will blame Californians because, many, are used to high prices and small footprints so move here with their odd political values and "amazed" at good prices. Old people, veterans, etc being priced out even.

albrecht

Quote from: WhiteCrow on May 02, 2016, 06:26:58 PM
As said I'm a Banker.. Paid by government to clean up failed banks.  Made deals with government on hundreds of those homes with mortgage loans many times real value on failed bank's  books. Negotiate  starts with how much is government going to pay us to clean up failed bank's morgage loan portfolio mess. Sad situations .. Once that process starts, real estate values drop. Because we need to get them off our books as soon as possible for bargain prices.. If we don't, we get criticized by  government for having non preforming assets OREO on our books.

DEFINITION of 'Other Real Estate Owned - OREO'
In bank accounting, this term refers to real property owned by a banking institution which is not directly related to its business. In balance sheet terms, other real estate owned (OREO) assets are considered non-earning assets for purposes of regulatory accounting.
Though also there is some weird stuff that goes on. I recall going to auctions some years ago and bank representatives bidding on properties that were foreclosed on (by taxing authorities or themselves, it seemed.) One county away (ours is, relatively, seems honest and the auction is run by the sheriff outside the Court House, but some counties near me are "out sourced" to a law-firm. And "deals" seem not nearly as available or open.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: albrecht on May 02, 2016, 06:41:47 PM
Though also there is some weird stuff that goes on. I recall going to auctions some years ago and bank representatives bidding on properties that were foreclosed on (by taxing authorities or themselves, it seemed.) One county away (ours is, relatively, seems honest and the auction is run by the sheriff outside the Court House, but some counties near me are "out sourced" to a law-firm. And "deals" seem not nearly as available or open.

What you witnessed is a Bank that is the holder of the mortgage on the property that is being foreclosed on.
The Bank is bidding the amount of its morgage loan plus cost, fees and past due taxes ..If someone bids higher than bank mortgage and taxes/fees  then the higest bidder's funds go to pay off bank mortgage and past due taxes/fees. If no one out bids bank, then the bank owns the property 'with clean title' and holds the property in its OREO portfolio.. See above. :)

albrecht

Quote from: WhiteCrow on May 02, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
What you witnessed is a Bank that is the holder of the morgage on the property that is being foreclosed on.
The Bank is bidding the amount of its morgage loan plus cost, fees and past due taxes ..If someone bids higher than bank morgage and taxes/fees  then the higest bidder's funds go to pay off bank mortgage and past due taxes/fees. If no one out bids bank, then the bank owns the property 'with clean title' and holds the property in its OREO portfolio.. See above. :)
Thanks, I see that explanation now. Still seems a bit suspect. ;)

WhiteCrow

Quote from: albrecht on May 02, 2016, 06:36:34 PM
Yeah, there are some good sites about Detroit, former factory towns in upstate NY, etc showing the houses, mansions, factories, churches, civic buildings etc in disrepair and abandoned that are such good craftsmanship. Having said that it is not just an American phenomena but several photographers who find same in the UK and Europe. So sad. But upkeep, or repair, particularly of large estates, is $$ and work/demographic changes. But still sad because they can put up some quickly built cookie-cutter condo or spec-build neighborhood by me and get big $$. Some condos just went up on the last remaining tract of what used to be a huge ranch. Blocking skyline and crappy looking going for 600K for a two bedroom and no yards. And not even downtown, so traffic will still be nuts for buyer. Crazy. And I will blame Californians because, many, are used to high prices and small footprints so move here with their odd political values and "amazed" at good prices. Old people, veterans, etc being priced out even.

Sad state of affairs..all to common.. Yes agree California and Florida ..make a fortune or lose one in the real estate game. Supply and demand with general state of the economy driving the fluctuations. Always follow new housing starts to judge the state of the economy.

albrecht

Quote from: WhiteCrow on May 02, 2016, 07:21:06 PM
Sad state of affairs..all to common.. Yes agree California and Florida ..make a fortune or lose one in the real estate game. Supply and demand with general state of the economy driving the fluctuations. Always follow new housing starts to judge the state of the economy.
I'm in the Lonestar State and we've had our boom and busts in the real estate market. (And some S&L and local bank "issues," of which I'm sure you remember a while back ;)) Oddly, where I am, even in these low oil&gas prices the real estate prices are insane and you can hardly get enough labor to build them. Also reached a point in which most people, according to some stat I heard, are renting (even single-family houses) versus buying. And they can't put up enough condos, spec neighborhoods, or apartments. Crazy. At some point will bust (hopefully, in an odd way- if nothing else for our traffic, property assessments and tax increases, and "foreigners" moving here!)

WhiteCrow

Quote from: albrecht on May 02, 2016, 07:28:36 PM
I'm in the Lonestar State and we've had our boom and busts in the real estate market. (And some S&L and local bank "issues," of which I'm sure you remember a while back ;)) Oddly, where I am, even in these low oil&gas prices the real estate prices are insane and you can hardly get enough labor to build them. Also reached a point in which most people, according to some stat I heard, are renting (even single-family houses) versus buying. And they can't put up enough condos, spec neighborhoods, or apartments. Crazy. At some point will bust (hopefully, in an odd way- if nothing else for our traffic, property assessments and tax increases, and "foreigners" moving here!)

Always localized boom and bust cycles too. Lake we live on is crazy hot... With most other propertes on other lakes just a few miles away still depressed. Why? because it only takes one White Crow.. to start a trend. LOL

albrecht

Quote from: WhiteCrow on May 02, 2016, 07:51:54 PM
Always localized boom and bust cycles too. Lake we live on is crazy hot... With most other propertes on other lakes just a few miles away still depressed. Why? because it only takes one White Crow.. to start a trend. LOL
"It only takes one white crow." Haha. Yeah, many of our lakes are, finally, lakes again! Due to all the rains and floods.

Rix Gins

Everett True, May 3, 1916.

Rix Gins

The Daily Telegram, May 3, 1916.

Rix Gins

The Daily Bonanza, May 3, 1916.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Rix Gins on May 03, 2016, 02:07:40 AM
The Daily Telegram, May 3, 1916.

The dollar donuts sold by a flashy "Celestial" with a stink bomb are awesome!  You can't make that stuff up.

If a thousand people is the capacity of this Airdome, then the figure of 2250 I've seen must either be wrong or refer to the earlier building.

Bert Helliker is the bartender in that 1916 photo.  That's interesting.  "Vagrancy" must be something other than being a homeless bum.



I'm glad the whistling concert was a success; I was worried about it.

The entire brass band will play!  But why do they need to learn new steps?  I assume it means new songs for new dance styles, unless they perform some kind of routine.

May 3rd, 1916 the legislature of the territory of Alaska accepted the land grant near Fairbanks set aside for an
institution of higher learning:

QuoteThe Territorial Legislature accepted the land-grant on May 3, 1916, and created “The Alaska Agricultural College and School of Mines,” defined its duties, and provided for a Board of Trustees consisting of eight members.

This would become the University of Alaska



 Tenor Léopold Simoneau was born on May 3rd, 1916 in St.Plavien, near Quebéc, Canada.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCl-Ib9FmTs

The Verdun nightmare continues

QuoteMay 3, 1916 - At Verdun, the Germans begin another attack on the west bank of the Meuse. This time they gain the advantage and within three days capture the two French hills they had been striving for since early March, thus achieving a solid position northwest of Verdun.






A few pictures from Houghton and Hacock, Michigan circa 1916.  Houghton is the gateway to Michigan's Copper Country









Houghton is way up north in the UP and a tad remote   :)

gabrielle

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on May 03, 2016, 10:25:13 AM
The Verdun nightmare continues

Walks, those pics are superb. Here is what America was reading about Verdun on this day one hundred years ago.  Note how the article foreshadows things to come by mentioning masses of German reinforcements on their way to Verdun. 

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