One Hundred Years Ago

[K_Dubb]

The Tonopah Daily Bonanza, March 28, 1916.

Listening to a guy take on hecklers must be what people did before internet forums hahaha.  I'm glad Happy's place will be more comfortable in the heat of summer.

I don't know why, but the crazy guy with the axe and the French name brought this guy to mind:

[gabrielle]

K Dubb...who is that guy in the cartoon?  I remember seeing him but can't think of the name.

Here is a pic from the 1916 Eaton's catalog.  Eaton's had large department stores in Toronto and Winnipeg at the time.

[K_Dubb]

K Dubb...who is that guy in the cartoon?  I remember seeing him but can't think of the name.

Here is a pic from the 1916 Eaton's catalog.  Eaton's had large department stores in Toronto and Winnipeg at the time.

Good to see the colors!  And I'd always imagined the bowler hat to have dominated this period, but there are fedoras.

[K_Dubb]

Speaking of mining, we recently came across these photos of my Swedish great-grandfather (left) visiting some friends working on a mining claim (producing mostly copper) within the bounds of Mt. Rainier National Park sometime in the '20s:



Barn, & Blacksmith's Shop:


The Storbo Hotel:


The Power House:


It seems the operation was something of a scam, with some jail terms handed out; I hope Great Grandpa wasn't a rube.

[Rix Gins]

A Legit operation or not, these are fantastic pics.  Especially the top one.  Thanks, K!

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

A Legit operation or not, these are fantastic pics.  Especially the top one.  Thanks, K!

I was just going to say the same thing!  Those old Swedes sure are some tough looking fellows. I had a great-uncle who was a mining engineer, mostly in the U.P., who was Swedish. I met him a couple of times when I was a little kid and he was a big strapping galoot with hands the size of baseball gloves. We hit it off great, because he insisted on having cookies for dessert after breakfast. His thinking was that you have dessert after every other meal, so why should breakfast be any different. As an eight-year-old, I thoroughly agreed with his reasoning! 

K - Do you know any of the details of the scam?

[K_Dubb]

I was just going to say the same thing!  Those old Swedes sure are some tough looking fellows. I had a great-uncle who was a mining engineer, mostly in the U.P., who was Swedish. I met him a couple of times when I was a little kid and he was a big strapping galoot with hands the size of baseball gloves. We hit it off great, because he insisted on having cookies for dessert after breakfast. His thinking was that you have dessert after every other meal, so why should breakfast be any different. As an eight-year-old, I thoroughly agreed with his reasoning! 

K - Do you know any of the details of the scam?

Haha Swedes love their coffee and cookies.  My dad, if he ever replaced his goofy grin with the usual stern countenance adopted in old photos, would pass for Mannerheim.

All I know is from this brief mention



in this book:  http://www.amazon.com/Challenge-Rainier-40th-Anniversary-Explorations/dp/159485520X

[gabrielle]

Those pictures are fascinating K Dubb

I was able to find this

http://harrybipedhiking.com/2015/07/12/mount-rainier-mining-company/

[K_Dubb]

Those pictures are fascinating K Dubb

I was able to find this

http://harrybipedhiking.com/2015/07/12/mount-rainier-mining-company/

That's a great find, Gabrielle!  Not looking good for Grandpa's money, though.  He certainly fit the profile for an investor, though his farm was south of Seattle where Sea-Tac Airport is.  It's now a trailer park.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Those pictures are fascinating K Dubb

I was able to find this

http://harrybipedhiking.com/2015/07/12/mount-rainier-mining-company/

Great story!

[K_Dubb]

From the Seattle Star today:





Had no idea they had such things:

















Apparently the typesetter was out late last night, too.

Finally, the Methodists are getting some bad press.  First, they're no fishermen, now this:

[albrecht]

From the Seattle Star today:





Had no idea they had such things:















Apparently the typesetter was out late last night, too.

Finally, the Methodists are getting some bad press.  First, they're no fishermen, now this:

John Wesley's relationship with his wife, who left him, has been a subject of much press, criticism, and papers over the years. Including, as we do these days, psychological analysis of long dead figures:
http://people.wcsu.edu/briggsj/Wesley.html

Here is a "Pulmotor" (warning opens pdf) invented by Heinrich Dräger, owner of the Drägerwerk AG Company which is still a successful company most would recognize for their diving and medical equipment.
http://www.draeger.com/sites/assets/PublishingImages/Generic/UK/Booklets/pulmotor-bk-9097434-en.pdf

[gabrielle]

Oh my, I remember Jacque Shallak....its all coming back to me now.   Does this explain why we are posting in a 100 year history thread on Bellgab?  LOL

Here is the cover of the 1916 Eaton's catalogue for 1916.  I dare say we have another Lady Di look alike.

[gabrielle]

More about men's hats......apparently the "panama" was quite popular for the spring.

[albrecht]

More about men's hats......apparently the "panama" was quite popular for the spring.

Supposedly JFK is to blame for men not wearing hats anymore (save cowboys, hipsters, ball players, and younger folks with ball caps.) But I wonder how much less skin cancer we would have if they never went out of style!

So I'm not sure on the year but I have an old "Holmes Stereoscope" that Oliver Wendell Holmes (yes, that guy) invented in 1861. It still works so that you view the image and get a 3-D presentation of the photo. The photos I have are mainly of "the old country." In this case vistas of the Norwegian countryside (with its fjords and mountains,) which likely would be a nice respite for the emigres living on the vast prairie in places like N.Dakota! But interestingly there is also pictures of more mundane things: village churches, people working in fields, hyttes (tradition small huts,) people in folk costume, etc. I think salesmen used to peddle the photos to the immigrants missing home.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/stereoscope-viewer

[gabrielle]

And dresses for the ladies, while doing their housework.....

[gabrielle]

Supposedly JFK is to blame for men not wearing hats anymore (save cowboys, hipsters, ball players, and younger folks with ball caps.) But I wonder how much less skin cancer we would have if they never went out of style!

So I'm not sure on the year but I have an old "Holmes Stereoscope" that Oliver Wendell Holmes (yes, that guy) invented in 1861. It still works so that you view the image and get a 3-D presentation of the photo. The photos I have are mainly of "the old country." In this case vistas of the Norwegian countryside (with its fjords and mountains,) which likely would be a nice respite for the emigres living on the vast prairie in places like N.Dakota! But interestingly there is also pictures of more mundane things: village churches, people working in fields, hyttes (tradition small huts,) people in folk costume, etc. I think salesmen used to peddle the photos to the immigrants missing home.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/stereoscope-viewer

Wow...that looks so cool.  It looks like the earlier version of the view master.  I would love to see one of those.

[Rix Gins]

Re: The newsboy's party.  The paperboys were a scrappy lot back then.  Hearst and Pulitzer pulled a fast one on them and they retaliated by going on strike.  Brought both newspapers to their knees. 


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsboys'_strike_of_1899

[Rix Gins]

Re:  The pulmotor.  Notice the last (and easily overlooked) item on this clipping.  And it's funny, because I thought the lady had died.  Glad I gave it another look.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,9331.msg751939.html#msg751939

[Rix Gins]

Re:  The Call Center.  Oddly enough, there was an editorial about Tonopah's telephone center in today's (100 years ago, that is.) Daily Bonanza.  Ties in nicely with K's clipping on the subject. 

[K_Dubb]

Re:  The pulmotor.  Notice the last (and easily overlooked) item on this clipping.  And it's funny, because I thought the lady had died.  Glad I gave it another look.

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,9331.msg751939.html#msg751939

Wow, it actually worked!  It looks like a standard piece of quackery, like those violet-ray boxes.

[Rix Gins]

Supposedly JFK is to blame for men not wearing hats anymore (save cowboys, hipsters, ball players, and younger folks with ball caps.) But I wonder how much less skin cancer we would have if they never went out of style!

So I'm not sure on the year but I have an old "Holmes Stereoscope" that Oliver Wendell Holmes (yes, that guy) invented in 1861. It still works so that you view the image and get a 3-D presentation of the photo. The photos I have are mainly of "the old country." In this case vistas of the Norwegian countryside (with its fjords and mountains,) which likely would be a nice respite for the emigres living on the vast prairie in places like N.Dakota! But interestingly there is also pictures of more mundane things: village churches, people working in fields, hyttes (tradition small huts,) people in folk costume, etc. I think salesmen used to peddle the photos to the immigrants missing home.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/stereoscope-viewer

I was heavy into the stereoview market some years back and amassed hundreds of them through flea markets, antique shops and, oddly enough, catalogue auctions where you mailed, or telephoned your bids in...(pre-ebay.) Also have four viewers of the type that you have mentioned.  The one that works best for me is the one that has a larger view hood that allows me to wear my glasses while viewing.  I plan on showing some of the 100 year old views on our thread.  (Lots of WWI views, though mostly taken shortly after the war.)

[K_Dubb]

John Wesley's relationship with his wife, who left him, has been a subject of much press, criticism, and papers over the years. Including, as we do these days, psychological analysis of long dead figures:
http://people.wcsu.edu/briggsj/Wesley.html

That's an interesting analysis.  While examples of men turning their wives into figures of maternal discipline are commonplace and hardly worth comment, dragging him by his hair is just asking to be called a harridan.

[Rix Gins]

Wow...that looks so cool.  It looks like the earlier version of the view master.  I would love to see one of those.

Gabrielle, you can see the stereo effect of a stereoview without a viewer by doing what's called free-viewing.  Here is the easiest instruction that I can give you.  There is a little trick to it and it takes a bit of practice, but once you do it, it's like riding a bike, you won't forget how to do it.  Look at the attached stereoview below and...

1. Center your vision just above the card where the two images meet.
2. Imagine that you are gazing a couple miles into the distance.
3. Relax your vision while still gazing into the distance.
4. You will sense three separate images of the card below your line of sight.
5.  Look down to the middle image and you will see it in perfect stereo depth.

Try not to cross your eyes, just keep them relaxed and you will get the three images of the stereo card.  And don't worry, your eyes wont get stuck in a crossed position or anything.  Good luck.  (PS, it might work better if you sit back a little bit from your monitor.)

[gabrielle]

Gabrielle, you can see the stereo effect of a stereoview without a viewer by doing what's called free-viewing.  Here is the easiest instruction that I can give you.  There is a little trick to it and it takes a bit of practice, but once you do it, it's like riding a bike, you won't forget how to do it.  Look at the attached stereoview below and...

1. Center your vision just above the card where the two images meet.
2. Imagine that you are gazing a couple miles into the distance.
3. Relax your vision while still gazing into the distance.
4. You will sense three separate images of the card below your line of sight.
5.  Look down to the middle image and you will see it in perfect stereo depth.

Try not to cross your eyes, just keep them relaxed and you will get the three images of the stereo card.  And don't worry, your eyes wont get stuck in a crossed position or anything.  Good luck.  (PS, it might work better if you sit back a little bit from your monitor.)

Thanks!!!!  Do I need to sit on a board high up in the sky?>>  LOL

[Rix Gins]

Thanks!!!!  Do I need to sit on a board high up in the sky?>>  LOL

No...but if you do, please don't look down.  lol

[albrecht]

I was heavy into the stereoview market some years back and amassed hundreds of them through flea markets, antique shops and, oddly enough, catalogue auctions where you mailed, or telephoned your bids in...(pre-ebay.) Also have four viewers of the type that you have mentioned.  The one that works best for me is the one that has a larger view hood that allows me to wear my glasses while viewing.  I plan on showing some of the 100 year old views on our thread.  (Lots of WWI views, though mostly taken shortly after the war.)

Cool, I just inherited it some years ago but now that I see cards are still for sale might get some new ones. I'm sure what the original pricing was but the device themselves seem to be reasonable on Ebay. I wonder if it wasn't like printers today- see the device cheap and they make the money on the photos. And, the prurient side of me needs to wonder, if they had porno stereo prints? I would think that would've been a money maker, especially back then. Think of those places with all men in war, mining, lumber, etc. And 3-D would be a popular novelty. I also wonder if the technique was ever used for military use? Maybe "show" the actual terrain from the perspective of a future assault, as opposed to looking at maps?

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

From the Seattle Star today:






Apparently the typesetter was out late last night, too.

The article about phone traffic sounds just like the bandwidth issues that plagued the early days of the interwebs! 

I suspect the copy editor was out roistering with the typesetter of the newsboy story!

[albrecht]

That's an interesting analysis.  While examples of men turning their wives into figures of maternal discipline are commonplace and hardly worth comment, dragging him by his hair is just asking to be called a harridan.

Apparently the pulmotor did work though not as effective as later machines but the inventor's company (Drägerwerk AG) is still very prominent in medical, fire fighting, gas detection, and scuba equipment.

It was sort of interesting about Wesley but I'm very suspicious of psycho-analysis- especially though when done via looking at journals, news accounts, diaries, for people long-dead. There also is a lot of possible fallacious thinking involved since we know how things turned out and so can go back to blame "mother." Poor moms, always getting blamed for everything negative anyone has ever done or if one goes crazy or is not successful in relationships.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Cool, I just inherited it some years ago but now that I see cards are still for sale might get some new ones. I'm sure what the original pricing was but the device themselves seem to be reasonable on Ebay. I wonder if it wasn't like printers today- see the device cheap and they make the money on the photos. And, the prurient side of me needs to wonder, if they had porno stereo prints? I would think that would've been a money maker, especially back then. Think of those places with all men in war, mining, lumber, etc. And 3-D would be a popular novelty. I also wonder if the technique was ever used for military use? Maybe "show" the actual terrain from the perspective of a future assault, as opposed to looking at maps?

Dirty pictures have been around almost as long as photography, so it's a good bet that porno stereo prints were available if you knew where to look and how to ask for them.