What is the endgame for Greece?

3OctaveFart · July 10, 2015, 08:27:20 AM

Falkie is the Greece of the EU, Kathy its Puerto Rico.

albrecht · July 12, 2015, 03:06:19 PM

Once again it proven that votes matter.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11733777/Bewildered-Greeks-left-wondering-what-happened-to-referendum-No-vote.html

paladin1991 · July 13, 2015, 08:30:24 AM

Quote from: albrecht on July 12, 2015, 03:06:19 PM
Once again it proven that votes matter.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11733777/Bewildered-Greeks-left-wondering-what-happened-to-referendum-No-vote.html

Greeks. I think they should say screw it. Leave the Eu and bail on their obligations. It would be painful to Greece but at least the Greasy Ones would have their pride intact.

SredniVashtar · July 13, 2015, 08:39:53 AM

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 13, 2015, 08:30:24 AM
Greeks. I think they should say screw it. Leave the Eu and bail on their obligations. It would be painful to Greece but at least the Greasy Ones would have their pride intact.

Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes

I always thought that meant, 'beware Greeks bearing gifts', but you are suggesting it should mean, 'beware of Greeks buggering off with the gifts and leaving everyone else to pick up the tab'.

Mainly the Germans, so it's not all bad news.

paladin1991 · July 13, 2015, 09:14:06 AM

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 13, 2015, 08:39:53 AM
Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes

I always thought that meant, 'beware Greeks bearing gifts', but you are suggesting it should mean, 'beware of Greeks buggering off with the gifts and leaving everyone else to pick up the tab'.

Mainly the Germans, so it's not all bad news.

Yep. Europe is gonna have to write off the loans eventually. Might as well make a clean break and heal up. Dump the Greeks or take everything they have and force them to relocate to Africa as refugees. That would break the backof ISIS, having to absorb all these poor bastards. There aren't enough blades to behead that many parasites. They, isis, will have to absorb them into their populace and that will break their economic back.

Jackstar · July 13, 2015, 09:26:42 AM

http://bellgab.com/index.php/topic,8047.msg420192.html#msg420192

Who could have seen this coming?

SredniVashtar · July 13, 2015, 11:30:00 AM

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 13, 2015, 09:14:06 AM
Yep. Europe is gonna have to write off the loans eventually. Might as well make a clean break and heal up. Dump the Greeks or take everything they have and force them to relocate to Africa as refugees. That would break the backof ISIS, having to absorb all these poor bastards. There aren't enough blades to behead that many parasites. They, isis, will have to absorb them into their populace and that will break their economic back.

Your Darwinian approach to politics is as uncompromising as your avatar. Makes me wonder if Margaret Thatcher had an illegitimate son that was adopted by American parents.

But she would probably just have drowned him.

paladin1991 · July 13, 2015, 11:34:05 AM

Quote from: SredniVashtar on July 13, 2015, 11:30:00 AM
Your Darwinian approach to politics is as uncompromising as your avatar. Makes me wonder if Margaret Thatcher had an illegitimate son that was adopted by American parents.

But she would probably just have drowned him.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Jackstar · July 13, 2015, 11:35:09 AM

If???

SredniVashtar · July 13, 2015, 11:40:20 AM

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 13, 2015, 11:34:05 AM
You say that like it's a bad thing.

Well, that only makes me wish she had gone the whole hog, or the complete camel (apologies to any Arab Bellgabbers who may have been offended) and gone out there herself. You might have really been in a position to put the hurt on Falkie then, commanding your own SWAT team and everything, using mom's influence.

3OctaveFart · July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM

If the Greek debacle is already baked into the markets, how much worse could they get? They've barely flinched this week.

Yorkshire pud · July 16, 2015, 12:48:14 PM

Quote from: Meatie Pie on July 16, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
If the Greek debacle is already baked into the markets, how much worse could they get? They've barely flinched this week.

The markets are the least of the problems. They have Syrian refugees arriving by the 1000's each day on the Greek Islands, civil unrest on home soil too with the proposed austerity measures imposed. I think it won't be long til a full scale civil war.

WOTR · July 16, 2015, 09:50:36 PM

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 13, 2015, 08:30:24 AM
Greeks. I think they should say screw it. Leave the Eu and bail on their obligations. It would be painful to Greece but at least the Greasy Ones would have their pride intact.

Instead they appear to have kicked the can down the road for another few years. They will rape their citizens with these new taxes, increases and sell their only assets to repay what they can over the next few years and then be right back where they are today (only with fewer resources...)

The EU knew exactly what they were getting when they voted to allow Greece in, and now even the IMF has said that this new plan amounts to a bad deal, that it is not sustainable, and that the agreement will push Greece over the tipping point where they economy will not be able to grow.

In addition, rather than the latest loans being backed by the 16 members of the eurozone, all 28 members of the EU will be responsible for this debt. Nice way spreading the risk around while limiting those who benefit for the next couple of years.

Stupid to think that this was seen as a good idea. Just call it a day, take your medicine and start over... Fuck the vultures who set you up to be raped...